Slashdot Mirror


Pricing a Software Product

prostoalex writes "Eric Sink from SourceGear shares his experience on software pricing. Whether you're developing open-source or proprietary software, the money has to come into the business in some form, and the article suggests several strategies as well as the pitfalls for managing software pricing. Sink claims it's tough to compete on price, dangerous to run seasonal promotions and almost impossible to avoid criticism on being over-priced."

20 of 259 comments (clear)

  1. better colors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:better colors by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Also, is my memory faulty or didn't the "The Almighty Buck" logo used to be green, not it.slashdot.org beige? Is Blinding Beige the hot color for this season?

      I know it's unheard of for the editors to pay attention to anything the readers say, but this really has to change. Some of the other sections may have hideous color schemes but this one is simply unreadable. Days later, I still manually change the URL for every story posted in IT.

    2. Re:better colors by 5m477m4n · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought the colors were in support of our troops in Iraq? They seem to be of the same desert cammo. Other wise they'd be just plain annoying.

      --

      ---
      Those who can, do
      Those who can't, teach
      Those who don't know how, supervise
    3. Re:better colors by strictfoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      being a subscriber might give the complaint more weight, as well.

      Well, my other account is a subscriber. But considering that when I posted a complaint about it both the IP's I post from (home and work) were banned from posting anything and my karma quickly going from the good/excellent threshold to terrible, I'd say that it doesn't carry any extra weight at all. I had been a constant subscriber since subscription had become available too.

      Thank goodness for proxies, I guess.

      --
      I've just signed legislation that'll outlaw Russia forever. We'll begin bombing in five minutes.
  2. Looka These Hyar Charts by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Whee! Econ, one of my favorite subjects =)

    Volume Pricing has its snag in how you handle customer Support. I didn't see that addressed (other than lightly under Tech Support), the higher the volume of sales the more need for customer support. Only so much can be down with a website FAQ. (Personally, I'm wary of products which don't come with printed manuals or a pdf with only a light treatment of the subject matter, back in the day manuals were your saviours, now they're some kind of afterthought that vendors seem uninterested in putting effort into.)

    With inexpensive stuff you may lose all your profit on customer support, with pricing of support and/or a higher price nd lower volume there's less need for a large customer support team, or it grows as needed.

    Granted, I've worked for people whe shelled big really big zorkmids on stuff and when it turned out to be crap, it wasn't the vendor to blame but headcount.

    There's some discomforting truth to many of those Dilbert strips.

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    1. Re:Looka These Hyar Charts by clifyt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Generally with volume pricing, it is expected there will be some climate of internal user support at the company you are selling it to.

      For instance, at my employer, I have no less that 5 technical lists that I have to be signed up to for the support of specific packages we use (and a few dozen outside of that lest anyone think I'm a slacker :)

      We generally try to find the solutions to the problems as a group before calling in the big guns...generally we have a higher level of tech support off the bat than the standard idiot reading from a script, but only a few of us access it.

      So it *IS* more efficient for a company to offer volume pricing than it is to sell to every joe on the street that demands to talk to the president of the company each and every time he feels that reading the manual is out of reach for him and an online FAQ? You gotta be kidding. No one on one support is MUCH harder than volume groups because we can help each other...

  3. Value for service by Nos. · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sometimes I place more value on the service I get that on the product itself (software or not). A lot of software is moving to a hosted environment, and a lot of companies are starting to like the idea. Now you can use your service from your mobile device as well as at the office. So, instead of charging for the software, charge for the hosting. Develop and open source the product, then charge people to use the service in your hosted environment.

  4. Supply-side pricing??? by dmayle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What I want to know is, whatever happened to supply-side pricing. You know, figuring out your cost to supply, and charging a reasonable markup based on that?

    It's because of this that companies have to create artificial market distinctions, and why there is the prevalance of after-market modification. (Things like overclocking.)

    I know it's a bit of an anti-establishment thought, but I'm not sure demand-side pricing is ethical. The whole idea of trying to take your customers for everything you can sounds so much colder when you look at it from their side.

    And on taop of that, if you're a publicly owned company, not doing so might be considered criminal...

    1. Re:Supply-side pricing??? by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Supply side pricing...

      I think there is a fundamental problem with supply side pricing in the modern factory driven environment. How do you predict how many copies you're going to sell, and thus manufacture?

      If you can produce 3 million copies at $2 each and sell at $3 to make back all your money and then some, vs 3,000 copies at $4 each but need to sell at $999 to make back all your money, what do you do?

      Realistically you expect to sell less, and charge slightly more, like $2,000, because it only costs you $12,000 to manufacture, vs $6 million to manufacture. Supply side is a great idea, but only if you can perfectly predict how much demand there will be. Of course there are exceptions, but realistically demand-side pricing seems to work slightly better on the average.

      This said from someone who's produced several hundred DVDs and sold at $20 or so each, rather than several thousand at $6 each.

    2. Re:Supply-side pricing??? by smack.addict · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your thinking is flawed.

      Let's take an analogy. I have a valuable rare coin worth $1,000. It is taking up space in my house, and I simply found it lying around.

      You are a coin collector. Not only do you know it is worth $1,000 on the open market, but you have a particular affinity for it. You would easily pay $2,000 to get your hands on it.

      So, if I sell it for $1, are you ripping me off? If I sell it to you for $2,000 (it cost me nothing), am I ripping you off?

      You might be tempted to refer to the "market" as the fair price. The market price is nothing more than a value at which you are pretty sure to find a buyer. Higher than that price, you will have to spend time seeking a buyer who places greater than normal value on the thing. Lower than that price and you are basically cheating yourself.

      The beauty of capitalism is that it recognizes the basic fact that every person values things uniquely. When we engage in a transaction, we are both more wealthy... even with demand-side pricing. You will never pay more for something than it is worth to you. Anything you pay less means you are wealthier.

      Let's take that coin. To you, it is worth $2,000. I sell it to you for $1,500 (above the market value). Before the transaction, you had $1,500 that was worth exactly $1,500 to you. After the transaction, you are down the $1,500. But now you have a coin that is worth $2,000 to you!

      As for me, I had a coin that was basically worth nothing to me without knowledge of the market (or worth $1,000 with knowledge of the market). After the transaction, I have $1,500 in cash! BOTH OF US make a profit.

      Another flaw in your question is that costs are easy to quantify. In fact, in software development, they are hard to quantify. How much, exactly, does a download of Photoshop from the Adobe web site cost Adobe?

  5. Re:The correct pricing structure for most software by Swamii · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless of course you run a company, and have employees to pay. In that case, you can't always make a living off of service and support.

    --
    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit
  6. Ask the customers! by notthepainter · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ok, it sounds weird, but when I was at MacSpeech, we asked our customers how much they would pay for the product. This isn't as odd as it sounds, at the time there were NO competitors.

    It was then a simple matter in Excel to figure out how to maximize our income, at what price point did we make the most money. It looked pretty much like the first chart in the article.

    Then management ignores and sets a price accordingly!

  7. Re:The correct pricing structure for most software by cecille · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hate to be the part of the money-grubbing capitalist here, but money makes the world go 'round. If all software was free, why would anyone bother developing it? I know there are great free software products out there, and I know there are ways to make money off of software other than by selling it, but making all software free really doesn't seem to be a viable option. Let me put it another way...you're a software developer making a product - the final piece of software represents the work you've put in to devloping something unique and useful....how much is this effort worth? Nothing?

    --
    ...no two people are not on fire.
  8. Im gonna be rich by Aceto3for5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So how should I price Hello World? I just wrote it in C.

    Hmm, competition? No competition! You can find some software books that show you how to make your OWN Hello World, but who has time for that?

    Some of those books cost 100 Dollars or more... So that I dont look like an "underdog" im gonna charge $250 dollars. Even better, I could convert Hello World, into Hello World for Workgroups, change the font to something a little more professional, and sell it for $325 plus maintenance and security fees.

  9. Re:heh by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uh, for Windows you are correct. For office, you're partially correct. But for all of their other programs, Microsoft has direct competition from many sides. Sink even gives an example...where an ISV has created a product that competes with Access built on Open Source technologies.


    "So what is the right price range?

    This question is the point where most small ISVs will wimp out. "We don't have the Microsoft name." "Our product is less mature." "We feel inferior, so obviously our price has to be lower than theirs."

    Bzzzt! Wrong answer. The right answer is: "A lot more than $229."


    Basically, Sink is telling ISVs to grow a backbone and realize that the first step isn't competing with Microsoft on price (mostly for the reason you're talking about, MS can just drop the price and thus drop the usefulness of your software) but finding the area in which their product is SUPERIOR to Access and leveraging that.

    It's good advice. Because by doing this, you encourage people to move away from Access while at the same time increasing itnerest in your product.

    We have a local car dealer who did a commercial claiming that the Hyundai luxury sedan looks "just like" the Jaguar only it costs much less. Needless to say, we laugh our ass off at that commercial. A Hyundai is not a Jaguar only cheaper...it's a Hyundai attempting to LOOK like a Jaguar. Too many low-cost programs suffer from trying to look like a Jaguar, when what they really need to do is analyze what it is about the Jaguar that makes it attractive and what can be gleamed from that and added to that to approach the market from a different direction.

    Our company writes software for a saturated niche, but does alright because we look at things from a different perspective. Rather than just allowing our customers to enter and store data with a weak search engine, we allow them to enter it quickly, search it powerfully and associate it meaningfully. Our price is higher for that reason -- and yet we have more customers.

    --
    Hey freaks: now you're ju
  10. Why not just *ask* potential customers? by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A good price depends on your target audience.

    For the average Joe: $20 or under will get impulse buys ("Not that much if it ends up sucking"); over $50 means they'll only buy it if they already know they want it; Over $250 will only get those who really need it and have done some decent research into alternatives. Over $1000 means you can guarantee that everyone will pirate it without even feeling bad ("At that price, I didn't count as a potential customer anyway").

    For teens and older kids, drop those to $5, $20, $50 (yes, the average price of a game) and $100, respectively.

    For business customers, the scene changes a bit. A very small business may behave like a somewhat more well-to-do average Joe. Once layers of accountability start appearing, though, the low and high categories vanish - No impulse buys, and no piracy. For that reason, as the business gets bigger, the potential price does as well, almost without limit. Keep in mind that the higher the price, the fewer your potential customer base, though.

  11. Re:The correct pricing structure for most software by MindStalker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes it takes a lot of work to come up with original ideas. But not so surprisingly you can give away ideas, and most people wouldn't know what to do with them. Then you turn around and charge them to show them how it works. :)

  12. Software pricing simplified by swordboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Software pricing = (DC + RC + P)/EUS ...where DC = Development Costs, RC = Residual Costs (support, maintenance, etc), P = Profit, and EUS = Expected Unit Sales.

    Obviously, if you are selling to a wider audience, the software can be cheaper. This is why niche software like AutoCAD is so expensive.

    --

    Life is the leading cause of death in America.
  13. Psychology (humans are fucking insane) by jafac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to work on a server data replication product.

    There are many tales to tell about this debacle (I think the vendor has long since cancelled or put it on maintenance mode) - but there was a point where we raised our price from $250/server to $5000/server, and the ONLY change in the product was a name change. No new features were added. Hell, we didn't even update the GUI. Saled jumped 20% that quarter. (unfortunately it was not to be sustained).

    The reasoning was, the Market didn't take us seriously at $250/server because all of our competitors were priced in the $5000/server range.

    --

    These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
  14. My favorite "software pricing" story by maiden_taiwan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    An oldie but a goodie (and humorous too) from Chuck McManis on software pricing for the little guy.