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Crossplatform iTunes Sharing and Trading

An anonymous reader writes "As reported on Cnet and others, an open source java iTunes client named ourTunes has been released under the GPL by a group of anonymous hackers. Unlike the Apple iTunes for Windows and Mac, ourTunes allows a user to queue up and save to disk the music shared by other users. Recent court rulings have held that developers of p2p file sharing software cannot be held liable for 'for any copyright infringement committed by people using their products.'"

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  1. There are at least 5 of these. by MisterP · · Score: 4, Informative

    There seems to be a handful of java DAAP clients that all look the same:

    One2ohmygod: http://one2ohmygod.sourceforge.net/
    jtunes4: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jtunes4/
    AppleRec ords: http://www.cdavies.org/applerecords.html
    and yet another called "Get It Together"
    http://www.deleet.de/projekte/daap/

    They all look the same but have varying degrees of functionality.

    1. Re:There are at least 5 of these. by sweeze · · Score: 5, Informative

      They don't just all look the same, all of the new DAAP clients written in java that I know of (except for iLeech) are just forks of the original One2OhMyGod. I don't have time to work on One2OhMyGod anymore, so I'm fine with the forks, but I think maybe the 4+ groups of people might be better off communicating a bit more. The Get It Together interface looks really nice. The other ones i've looked at have added incremental changes to my original (really crappy) UI. They should use the wiki http://www.deleet.de/projekte/daap/ (or some other forum) to bounce ideas off each other and really get a nice UI going.

    2. Re:There are at least 5 of these. by Whizziwig · · Score: 3, Informative

      ourTunes is applerecords+. Applerecords was one2 + 4.5 auth. Our code is applerecords+searching+downloading.

      --dabe

  2. Re:DMCA by turnstyle · · Score: 4, Informative
    "In light of the recent court decision, will Apple still be able to use the DMCA to bully Sourceforge into taking down the software?"

    The two issues are unrelated. If Apple is asking Sourceforge to take down software that circumvents access control, that's a DMCA thing.

    This ruling, on the other hand, says that P2P vendors cannot be generally held accountable for how some (most) may use their software. This ruling does not permit circumvention of access control, as added by DMCA

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  3. Cluebats, ready by hummassa · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the ourTunes home page ( ourtunes.sf.net: )

    1) What is ourTunes?
    ourTunes is the continuation of several open source projects designed to allow you to browse and download from other people's iTunes Music Shares?

    2) Is this a Peer to Peer (P2P) program? Aren't those things created by Satan to steal Christmas from Baby Jesus?
    It's not "really" a peer-to-peer program, because it doesn't allow you the opportunity to share any files or music.

    3) Why am I not seeing any hosts? Is the whole internet dead?
    There probably aren't any people on your network sharing iTunes music. ourTunes only allows you to view connections within your networks "subnet" (often the building you are currently in, maybe a little bit more). If you are running ourTunes from home, I'm sorry to say but you'll probably be pretty disappointed. It's really only a viable program where there are lots of people living on a fast network with good taste in music (*cough* college campus *cough*).

    It allows you to share with other people on the same network! OMG. nothing to see here.

    Come on, please don't moderate me to oblivion.

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  4. Re:FAQ -- P2P by MikeMacK · · Score: 3, Informative

    So SATAN can take away Christmas AND find security holes in networks - whoa! The dude is just too powerful!

  5. Rendevous not needed! Re:Not a huge stretch by MisterP · · Score: 3, Informative

    You don't need Rendevous to use DAAP. Rendezvous makes it easy to find stuff on a local network, but all you have to do is point your DAAP client at the host sharing the music and you can play it. It's just http.

  6. well almost. by DM9290 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 9th Circuit court ruling is that software developers *can* be held liable,

    a) if their software did not have significant non-infringing uses, OR,
    b) if the software developers are in a position of power or control over the specific infringing activity and have a right and ability to stop the infringing activity AND had knowledge of the specific infringing activity OR
    c) the software developers provide material aid (such as providing computer servers) in commiting the software infringement and had knowledge of the specific infringing activity.

    The 9th Circuit did not want to expand copyright law to include parties which merely produced technology with significant non-infringing uses, who had no way of preventing the piracy that did take place, and did not provide any material aid to any piracy once the piracy become known to them.

    The decision (as a few others pointed out) did not give blanket immunity.

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  7. Re:Holy Crap, What a Biased Story! by andreMA · · Score: 4, Informative
    Wow. Talk about demonising the wrong entity here.
    Yeah, especially since the battery manufacturer - the South Korean LG Chem - was the one that had a bad manufacturing run and is apparently accepting liability for it by footing the bill for the recall...
  8. Re:For a second... by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Informative
    #2 that's easy. You provide convenience, and you provide legality. P2P file sharing is a mess. Maybe you'll get what you want, maybe you won't. Maybe it'll take a couple of minutes, maybe you won't have it in a couple of days. Maybe the track you end up with won't be what you though it was from the title. Maybe the ID3 information is a mess. Maybe you only get a partial album, with different tracks at different bit-rates.

    Convenience and legality. That's why many people do actually use iTunes Music Store. People who consider their time is worth something. People who value a consistent and legally bought item above an inconsistent and stolen item.