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Internet-Enabled Thermostat

ptorrone writes "Engadget has a little write-up of what is supposed to be the world's first Internet-enabled thermostat from Proliphix, which has an Ethernet port and a built-in web server and can be controlled from virtually any standard browser. So how long until everything in the home has its own IP address and script kiddies decide to get their kicks messing with your air conditioning during a heat wave?"

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  1. Ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And people said we don't need IPv6.

    1. Re:Ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Insightful how?? Are you really going to need 65536 hosts on a class B private subnet to control all of those home appliances?

      Come on people... mod in the real world.

    2. Re:Ha by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Looks like an excellent application for Port Knocking.

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    3. Re:Ha by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even if I get 16 million nanomachines, I sure as hell won't allow them to be directly controlled over the internet as a whole.

      I bet that through some fancy work, 1 "boss bot" can probably easily be accessed to control 64000 slave bots on a different type of network anyway. Micromanaging each of millions of nanomachines is not something I care to do, nevermind remotely over the internet.

      Like while my bluetooth mouse is on a little network, it isn't something I care to allow access directly from the internet.

  2. how long? by rokzy · · Score: 1, Insightful

    >So how long until everything in the home has its own IP address

    when IPv6 is fully implemented.

    1. Re:how long? by 56uSquareWave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You telling me that you would need an external facing IP address for every device? this seems slightly excessive. Surely once homes get properly wired you will have an external facing interface that can control all your devices... I can just see it now freezer.foobar.com cooker.foobar.com lights.foobar.com dog.foobar.com child.foobar.com the list could be endless. One point of entry and only one thing needed to have defence against f*****g script kiddies!

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  3. Not New... by jhouserizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not even close to being the "worlds first".

    I interviewed with a company more than 6 years ago that was selling web-enabled thermostats, sprinkler systems, vending machines, etc. etc.

  4. Neat... by keiferb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but is it SNMP monitorable?

  5. 3v1l 5cr1p7 k1dd135 by SamMichaels · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So how long until everything in the home has its own IP address and script kiddies decide to get their kicks messing with your air conditioning during a heat wave?

    So how long until everyone realizes that maybe you shouldn't give your air conditioner an external IP address?

    Do you have your network printer on an external IP address?

  6. Ethernet != Internet by flakac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "So how long until everything in the home has its own IP address and script kiddies decide to get their kicks messing with your air conditioning during a heat wave?"

    And just why exactly do you think that these devices are going to be open to the internet at large? Just because some marketing dweeb decided to call it "internet-enabled", doesn't mean that it's going to be on the net. Face it, having an ethernet port and webserver is not the same thing as being connected to the internet. These devices are designed to be run on a local network, which is likely behind some sort of DSL/cable-modem router, which means that unless the user goes to great lengths to do so, the devices are not visible. If of course you decide to set up NAT to let other people get to your thermostat, then you should be ready to feel the heat...

  7. Re:The whole idea is crazy!!! by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    why?
    what do outside conditions have to do with anything? If you want your house to be 76 degrees, you set the thermostat for 76+- degrees. If it is snowing, then the heater kicks in, if it is hot then the air conditioner kicks in.

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  8. Re:A better solution by Angostura · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And I always thought the point of a good old fashioned thermostat was to maintain a constant temperature without manual intervention.

  9. I don't get it. by juuri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously. Every time one of these topics comes up on the /. there are a flood of posts talking about how useless or pointless the invention is. Applying an easy stereotype I notice most of these comments come from posters who joined in the last couple of years.

    Has the general readership of /. really changed so much? Is it not appropriate to have a little lust and desire to see tech invade every portion of our lives? Wasn't /. itself about the new and exciting uses of technology and cool things on the net?

    More on topic, your thermostat will be networked one way or the other. Either you choose to do it, or your power company will within the next 10-15 years to help control power blackouts, surges and fluctuations. Some power companies already offer discounts for those in high heat areas if the end user allows the power company to turn off their AC during peak usage times.

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    1. Re:I don't get it. by Black+Perl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's pointless because many of us are adjusting our temperature via the web already. RS232-Controllable thermostats have been around for years and can be controlled by every home automation software product available.

      The one I use can be retrofit to communicate over your existing HVAC wires to a central controller. I use Misterhouse (open-source home automation software) to control it. Misterhouse has a web interface, but I rolled my own (BTW, I can also control my lights and my whole-house audio system, and I'm installing a sprinkler system which of course I'll add to the web interface).

      If everything I have connected had its own IP address, its own web server, and its own interface, it would actually be less convenient.

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  10. Interesting future for residential broadband by jobugeek · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'd say the majority of people with DSL/Cable in the US have user agreements stating no servers. Certainly this is a simple one, but a server nevertheless. Also, I venture a guess that most people have no clue how to set up their firewall to accept incoming sessions.

    As more and more home appliances become Internet accessible, it will be interesting to see how things like this take hold.

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  11. Perfect for Evil Rental Management Companies by acaben · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is from their "Multi-tenant" page:
    To further save unnecessary expense, facility managers can remotely lockout each tenant by disabling the thermostat buttons from tenant interaction to safeguard against inefficient temperature overrides.
  12. Re:This is one of many reasons we need IPv6 by glpierce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your dentist would end up in jail after your idle toothbrush sent him images of your child in the shower. Your bathtub would be tepid after you got stuck in traffic. Your fridge would order far too much food after you hosted parties, and you'd end up with a constant stream of turkeys after Thanksgiving.

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  13. Re:A better solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cool! Now I don't even have to put down the laptop, get up and switch on the air-conditioning.

    Yeah well, these devices are intended more for those people who actually get out of their parents basement once in a while... Look at this way: instead of guessing what time you'll be back home and returning to a cold/hot home or running the ac/heater unnecessarily, you can now set the control using your cellphone from 10 minutes away and come to a comfortable home without wasting any more energy than necessary.