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Transparent Aluminum Is Here

Alien54 writes "Scientists in the US have developed a novel technique to make bulk quantities of glass from alumina for the first time. (link includes a picture of samples) Anatoly Rosenflanz and colleagues at 3M in Minnesota used a "flame-spray" technique to alloy alumina (aluminium oxide) with rare-earth metal oxides to produce strong glass with good optical properties. The method avoids many of the problems encountered in conventional glass forming and could, say the team, be extended to other oxides (see also: A Rosenflanz et al. 2004 Nature 430 761). Scotty would be pleased."

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  1. Future echoes by Space+cowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am beginning to suspect that the whole idea of sci-fi is in fact a future society time-travelling back every now and then to make a new 'Star Trek' film to nudge society onto a slightly different path :-)

    The number of Star-Trek-driven ideas that have become reality is astounding -
    • phasers. We have wireless tasers that use a laser to ionise the air then an electric current jumps towards the victim from a battery. The battery is currently an issue)
    • communicators - hell mobile phones are far better than communicators
    • voice recognition - lots available these days
    • transporters - well we've done with an entangled photon. One down, seventeen quadrillion to go. Hey, it's a start!
    • now, transparent aluminium.. someone's having a laugh!


    Ok, we're missing the big one, warp drive, but apparently we have to have a war that more or less wipes out humanity first, so I'll be happy to give it a miss in my lifetime...

    Oh yeah, FOR [insert deity]'s SAKE, STOP THE WHALING!!!

    Simon
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    1. Re:Future echoes by DrCash · · Score: 2, Interesting
      communicators - hell mobile phones are far better than communicators

      Satellite phones are pretty darn close to Captain Kirk's communicator (although they're a bit pricey - I guess we still need to eliminate money before getting to the 23rd century.

      A HypoSpray for drug delivery without a needle has already been developed and used clinically during the late 1990s.

      It is a bit unusual that flat panel computer display technology did not hit the Star Trek universe until the late Next Generation series - Captain Kirk's Enterprise was equipped with CRTs and flashing and buzzing lights. But Captain Archer's Enterprise has LCD flat panels up the wazzoo,... ;-)

    2. Re:Future echoes by dave1791 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Ok, we're missing the big one, warp drive,"

      OK, I am not sure how Star Trek warp drives are supposed to work, but I remember a RPC circa 1990 called Traveller 2300 had something called "stutterwarp". The idea was this, take a starship and do the transporter trick to jump a few meters, or a couple of kilometers. Now do this at a few Mhz and you have near lightspeed with very little velocity.

    3. Re:Future echoes by clifyt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "actually, communicators are more like radio communication ... you don't dial any number ..."

      Why more like radio?

      My email is smart enough that if I start typing the first 2 or 3 letters of an email, it can guess at who I want to send it to and be accurate most of the time. I don't need to know the email addresses of anyone involved these days unless I don't have them in my address book which is sync'd between my phone, 2 PCs and 3 Macs. All work about the same.

      So you don't dial a number, but you do say "Sulu, Can We Get A Fix On..." and the internal processing realizes that since he didn't refer to a specific Sulu, he must mean the default one and routes it appropriately.

      My Cell is smart enough that if I hold a button on the side and say the name it can dial about a dozen numbers. Battery life and processing speeds preclude it from listening all the time.

      So, are you saying that because our technology isn't very sufficient today, theirs too must be as unadvanced. I've seen attainable advancements in 10 years that make 20 years ago look like the stone ages. In another 10 years, maybe we will just speak into a phone, and it will wait until it figures out who we are talking too and route accordingly. Who knows. Maybe we will all be back to fighting wars with sticks and stones.

    4. Re:Future echoes by bsartist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A HypoSpray for drug delivery without a needle has already been developed and used clinically during the late 1990s.

      Earlier than that. The military had airguns for drug delivery at least in '87, when I went through basic training. The trick was to hold perfectly still. If you did that, it was painless - but if you didn't, the compressed-air "needle" could leave quite a gash in your arm.

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  2. glassish properties by basics · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As glass itself is technically not a solid but a slow-moving liquid would glass not made from silica have the same general properites as "normal" glass?

    I generally think of glass as being very inert for example. Anyone know if this would be the case if the glass was composed of differant substances?

    (chemistry maybe?)

  3. science inspiring sci-fi inspiring science... by Ubergrendle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the great things about sci-fi as a thematic backdrop (be it literature or movies/tv) is that it alone of all the genres has the possibility of inspiring a tangible effect upon the real world.

    I remember an interview with James Doohan where he said his greatest pride that came from his career was that he inspired other people to pursue careers where they could make a difference to the world. How many engineers became engineers or went into sciences because of Star Trek?

    I'm familiar with the Arthur C Clarke suggesting satellites; I doubt a similar cause/effect with Star Trek IV happened here. However, the similarities are cool, and at least with this genre there is the POSSIBILITY of changing the world for the better.

    PS Fortunately such transitions from sci-fi fantasy to real world are few and far between. 90%+ of tv SF and pulp SF is dreck, and I myself and not looking forward to a Brave New World...

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    1. Re:science inspiring sci-fi inspiring science... by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The movie Galaxy Quest illustrated what you're talking about.

      A recent example is the Alcubierre warp drive. A general relativist took a break from computing the gravity fields of real objects to ask himself whether there was any way to create a field with the property of allowing faster-than-light travel.

      Heinlein gave another example when he testified to Congress about space program funding. He got his stroke surgery from a surgeon who excelled at having patients survive. The surgeon did so well because he'd invested in good equipment. Heinlein (engineer at heart) studied all the equipment that was saving his life and found that he could trace it all to space program spinoffs. And what do you think the 1960's NASA engineers read when they were growing up?

      >it alone of all the genres has the possibility of inspiring a tangible effect upon the real world.

      I'm sorry to quibble with an insightful post but that's too absolute a statement. "Uncle Tom's Cabin" influenced history.

  4. Re:woohho by GoodNicsTken · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You make that joke, but I started thinking about my reef tank as soon as I read this article. When you go over 36" tall you have to use 5/8-3/4 inch low iron (so your fish and corals are not green) glass. If this is really that much stronger, larget tanks could be made cheaper, becuase the glass could be thinner. I wonder what the optical and strength properties really are? Anyone have more information on the testing?

  5. The missing ingredient for an invisible plane! by kamelkev · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wonder woman would be all over this... this is the missing ingredient for the ever elusive "invisible plane".

    Seriously though, this has crazy applications. Imagine all the things you could make with this stuff:

    Windshields that bend instead of crack, providing protection during an accident

    Pairs of glasses that won't break

    No more broken windows because the kid down the street hits a baseball at your house.

    There seem to be virtually limitless applications, assuming the optical properties are similar to that of glass, which the article alludes to.

    1. Re:The missing ingredient for an invisible plane! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Windshields that bend instead of crack, providing protection during an accident

      My friend buys a lot of cars from the salvage yard, mostly from accidents so I've seen a fair ammount of wrecks, and I don't think making the windsheild harder is what you would want. Safty glass is already pretty effective, and even in the worst accidents, the windsheild stays together very well. What you do tend to see in bad accidents is one big spiderweb in front of the steering wheel, where often someones head impacted (probably not wearing a seatbelt).

  6. Re:Transparent aluminum foil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I was thinking more about transparent airplanes - no need for dangerous windows & people will get a decent view

  7. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just goes to show how many ideas mentioned in StarTrek actually come about. I guess we still have to work on that warp drive, dilithium crystal regeneration and photon torpedoes...and replicators. "Earl Gray. Hot."

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  8. Re:Communicator by jaredmauch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't remember where i read about it, but it must've been here.. there are actually IP Phones made by one company that are wearable. Their primary market is hospitals. Ah yes, a quick google found me the product link.

  9. Re:well then there are rubies and stuff by Vacuum+Sux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Certainly. Sapphire is a crystal form of aluminum oxide and it is quite transparent. For example it doesn't absorb ultraviolet photons close to the visible spectrum which make it a suitable material to have in the windows to my vacuum chamber when I want to shoot UV laser light in to it.

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  10. Colorful by einhverfr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After all sapphires are basically alluminum oxide too....

    Are these windows amorphous like glass or crystaline like sapphires? (Assuming amorphous, but not sure).

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  11. "transparent concrete" by peter303 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I read some comprehensive article on "transparent concrete", probably the NY Times Sunday Magazine, but cant locate the reference. There are several related articles on Google. Concrete is seeing a resurgence as a decorative material, i.e. wall and floor coverings. Theres many ways to modify it to have more attractive decorative properties if you willing to sacrifice some structural strength. Concrete is inexpensive and easy to manipulate.

    A more accurate term is translucent concrete. One guy embeds perpendicular optical fibers so some external sunlight gets through. There are other techniques too.

  12. Real medical Tricorder, with Paramount approval by fibonacci2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    phhtbtb - I had an add-on for my Palm that did weather.

    These guys (IGEN, now Bioveris) even licensed the name from Paramount.

    http://www.biospace.com/news_story.cfm?StoryID=379 5304&full=1

    "IGEN's TRICORDER is a self-contained diagnostic detection module ideally suited for hospital POC testing. It is based on IGEN's proprietary ORIGEN(R) technology, which enables high-value clinical testing, including immunodiagnostic and nucleic acid probe-based measurements."

  13. Re:You are such a geek... by KlomDark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even weirder, back in the early 1900's, a man named Harold Warp (Now somewhat famous for starting a huge museum called Pioneer Village in the middle of Nebraska) invented a way of heat bending of plastic glass (Called Flex-O-Glass. The more commonly known 'Plexiglass' is a copy by a later competitor once the patent expired.) that retained its optical properties. This process became known as "Warping". At about the same time, mathmaticians were stumbling across the basics of the time-space continuum, and borrowed the term to refer to bending time/space.

    The main street in Minden, Nebraska has now been renamed from "Brown Avenue" to "Harold Warp Memorial Drive" (Which most people refer to now as "Warp Drive"). A friend of mine lives on Warp Drive, which is kinda cool to a geek like me.

    So they did the original creator of "Warping" a disservice when they wanted to obtain Plexiglass instead of Flex-O-Glass.

    (Yah, I went to high school in Minden... :) )

  14. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember seeing a demonstration on conductive polymers, and I immediately took notice of the fact that they had a metallic sheen to them. The same properties that lead to conduction also lead to the reflective properties of metal.

    If you just want something transparent that is very durable, you can use something like this alumina technology, or even something crazy like panes of diamond glass or something like that (I'm not sure how strong diamond glass would be, but I'm guessing pretty strong).

    On the other hand, a true transparent metal would have lots of desirable properties that none of these materials have. Metals are malleable and ductile, conduct heat well, can withstand stress by deforming, and conduct electricity. All of these properties have to do with the metallic bonds between metal atoms, and consequently they are incompatible with being transparent. That isn't to say that you can't make a nonmetallic material that can transfer heat, or which can bend - but it wouldn't be by the same mechamism as how a metal works.

    I always loved metallic bonds simply because they are such an elegant demonstration of how a microscopic property such as chemical bonding leads to macroscopic properties like conductivity and malleability.

    For those who want to know more, almost any general chemistry textbook will have a short section on metallic bonding which describes how they work and why they lead to these properties.

  15. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Jorkapp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oh, a keyboard, how quaint.
    We solved this problem with voice recognition software some years ago. The trouble is, we can't tell if the person is addressing the computer, or is simply talking about a computer. For example:

    "Computer run a level 3 diagnostic on the transporter assembly" ...would trigger the computer to run a level 3 diagnostic on the transporter assembly.

    or

    "Damn machines, I did not tell my computer to self destruct." ...would trigger the computer to initiate the self-destruct mechanism. Kaboom.

    Hopefully this problem will be fixed before Zefram Cochrane takes off in a few years.

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  16. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Of course, Scotty then demonstrated remarkable typing ability despite having little exposure to such a backwards device.

  17. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by pclminion · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Ah, no. Their 'V' is just like our 'V', but generally pronounced harshly. 'W' is a very different sound that they lack. They would have said "nuclear vessel", but pronounced "where" as "vhere".

    Well, it really depends how long the Russian has been speaking English. I know many Russian immigrants to the US, and they invariably confuse the 'v' and 'w' sounds, and what's more, it seems like the ones who speak English better are more likely to get them confused!

    It is true that in Russian there is no 'w' sound, but a Russian speaking English does have the tendency to transpose the two sounds. Why this is, I'm not exactly sure, but as I said, there seems to be a correlation with how long they've been speaking English.

    Thus silliness like W's instead of V's entered as a common idea of a Russian accent.

    It's a common idea because it's correct. You must listen to different Russians than I do, because they confuse 'v' in 'w', in both directions, all the time. My girlfriend, whose accent is so slight as to be barely noticeable, often substitutes 'w' for 'v', and 'v' for 'w' as well. Interestingly, she only confuses the sounds for words that she isn't familiar with. For example, she would never pronounce "very" as "wery," since it is such a common word, but she might pronounce "voluptuous" as "woluptuous" since she doesn't use that word very often. The confusion goes both ways: once she asked me if I would like to go "vale vatching" this weekend. How do you defend against cuteness like that?

    I agree that the Russians have no 'w' sound but for some reason they do sometimes pronounce English 'v' as 'w'. I've heard it a thousand times, at least.

    No real Russian sounds like Mr. Chekov

    According to several Russians, his accent, although fake, is much better than some of the crap that is passed off as "Russian" in modern movies. According to the Russians I know, the Russian speech in The Hunt For Red October was particularly atrocious to the point of not being comprehensible.

  18. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You must listen to different Russians than I do, because they confuse 'v' in 'w', in both directions, all the time.

    Indeed. My wife has quite a few Russian family members and friends that we often correspond with. I have *never* heard a 'W' misused. OTOH, it may be a different class of Russians we're talking about. My wife is from a Moscow family of scientists (primarily biology). Pretty much all of them speak more than one language fluently, although quite a few have pretty heavy accents when speaking English.

    It's possible that the Russians you know are from some other area of Russia, where their accents differ anyway. Not to mention that they're likely to know less about other languages and therefore more likely to confuse proper sounds.

    The confusion goes both ways: once she asked me if I would like to go "vale vatching" this weekend. How do you defend against cuteness like that?

    Don't you love that? :-) When I was dating my wife, I used to love how she pronounced my name. Since it starts with a 'J', she'd pronounce it with a 'zsa' (you know, draw a vertical line through an X and you've got the glyph). Cutest thing ever. Sadly, her accent is now nonexistent. Seems I taught her English a little too well. :-(