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Tempratech Self-Cooling Can

r.future writes "I saw on Gizmodo that a company called Tempratech has created an 100% safe and environmentally friendly aluminum can that uses a self-chilling process involving a cooling gel, desiccant, and heat sinks, to chill itself. The self-contained I.C. Can is the approximate size of a 500 mL beverage can. This includes the beverage container itself, and the integral self-chilling device, and according to Tempratech the can is 'proven to lower beverage temp by a minimum of 30 degrees Fahrenheit in only three minutes.'"

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  1. That'll be a bitch to recycle. by paanta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its not going to be real easy to recycle now, is it? Or can they melt the whole thing down, desiccant and all? Seems unlikely.

    1. Re:That'll be a bitch to recycle. by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fantastic point. I know there used to be a canteen and thermos that kept beverages colder (or hotter) like 5 times longer than a normal thermos, and got rid of the 'metally' or 'plasticy' tastes. But it wasn't at all recyclable, so the whole project was dropped.

      I think that if it ain't recyclable, its a cool experiment at most.

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    2. Re:That'll be a bitch to recycle. by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Recycling isn't "mandatory" for most people. You can toss those cans in the trash if you want, even if your neighborhood has curbside pickup. However, people recycle because they want to reserve natural resources and reduce growing landfills.

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    3. Re:That'll be a bitch to recycle. by Politburo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand, a lot of desiccants are recycleable. You can pop them into an oven to dry the material out.

      You're not thinking about recycling fully. While getting a virgin or near-virgin material back is a good goal, many other factors must be considered. Such as: energy required to recycle back to near-virgin material, energy required to create virgin material (from the ground, other materials, however it is acquired), amount of virgin material (or constituents) available, etc.

      While dessicant may be easily recycled, it may not be worth it. Burning a bunch of oil, coal and gas to dry it out may harm the environment more than just tossing it in a landfill. However, if the raw materials to make dessicant are non-sustainable/limited, then recycling becomes beneficial again.

  2. Maybe, but I'm thinking no... by Dutchmaan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless this new way off chilling doesn't significantly affect the price of a given can of soda, I don't see it going anywhere.

    If it's bulkier and more expensive what incentive do people have for purchasing a drink stored in such a can?

    1. Re:Maybe, but I'm thinking no... by Freidner · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, there's hunting, fishing, tailgate parties, BBQ's. If I can have a cold can of Dr. Pepper out in the woods or on the lake where a fridge is out of the question and a cooler is problematic, then why not pay a little extra for some convenience?

    2. Re:Maybe, but I'm thinking no... by avronius · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think that you've hit the nail on the head here. The amount of energy required to constantly refrigerate a beverage vs. the cost required to 'instantly' make a non-refrigerated beverage cold.

      Additionally, people who are mobile would find enormous benefit. A can of "water" or sports drink on a hot day of cycling would be well worth the $.50 surcharge that this market might expect.

      However, if the surcharge is greater than 50% of the current market price, it may not fly.

    3. Re:Maybe, but I'm thinking no... by avronius · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A myopic viewpoint is best hidden behind AC status.

      It is important to note that there are entire industries that utilize beverage-only refrigeration devices. These devices are running while the shop is closed and there are no customers with which to provide a cold beverage to. As an example, each and every soft-drink vending machine provides refrigeration.

      As for me, I prefer a cold beverage to a cool beverage. I haven't been subject to stomach cramps yet, but I'll keep you posted.

  3. So that's why... by severoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that Coke Halliburton sent to Iraq was so expensive...

    Seriously, which would you choose, a beverage that cost $1 which you had to refrigerate, or a beverage that costs $20 which you don't?

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  4. Re:Conversion by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which would mean that this product would more likely be marketed to the makers of beer rather than the makers of soft drinks... as most soft drinks are found exclusively in bottles in all sizes above 12 oz.

    Besides, the increased cost would seem silly when attached to a soft drink can price, but would likely be more presentable for a "premium" beer brand not available any other way .

  5. Oh great.. by adeyadey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Heavier, bigger, cans.. More junk to be thrown away. (yes I know its alu, but not every can gets recycled).

    Whats wrong with a good old micro-fridge? Or just hang your beer up in a damp sock for a while..

    Seriously, I think its about time sales taxes were put on non-environmental packaging gimmicks like this, or maybe a refundable deposit like in South Australia..

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  6. Score! by Piranhaa · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Yours free in specially marked cases of Coke" - (Coke now maked as $50+ for a 12 pack) ... Oh, and you must love the useage of 2 different systems of measuring in the article (Mililitres AND Fahrenheit)

  7. Re:Obligatory Yakov Joke... by Alyred · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Wow, you modded my dumb joke all the way down to flamebait. Now I'm hurt.

  8. Will work in places with strange laws by slusich · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This will be a great seller in places with strange beer laws. For some reason, alot of places around the country won't let you buy cold beer. This will bypass those old laws nicley.

  9. Recycling by Big+Bob+the+Finder · · Score: 4, Insightful
    That depends upon what is used as the "desiccant." Two possibilities come to mind:

    1) The desiccant volatilizes in the melt during recycling. A number of compounds come to mind. Ammonium nitrate (yes, THAT ammonium nitrate) is used in cold packs for athletic purposes, and decomposes at 250 C into water and N2O (nitrous oxide, or laughing gas). At about 300 C, it decomposes into other, less desirable oxides of nitrogen, and water.

    2) As the reaction itself is inspired by the introduction of water, the "desiccant" must be water soluble; you get an endothermic reaction as it dissolves. Anyway- I don't know too much about recycling these days, but I've seen cans go into chippers so they can be blown into the back of a semi truck to go to the recycling plant. One would assume that at some point, those chips get washed before they get re-melted. Otherwise, carmelized sugar and other gunk left on the inside of the cans- even in tiny amounts, multiplied by many cans- would cause more problems than it's worth.

    1. Re:Recycling by k98sven · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One would assume that at some point, those chips get washed before they get re-melted. Otherwise, carmelized sugar and other gunk left on the inside of the cans- even in tiny amounts, multiplied by many cans- would cause more problems than it's worth.

      Actually, drink residues is the smaller problem. -Warm water will get rid of that. The lacquer on the outside of the can is a different story. And there are processes there to remove it.

      So you're most likely right. Whatever substance they're using, the existing processes are probably more than adequate to deal with them.

  10. Re:self heating soup? by jabella · · Score: 2, Insightful

    then again, think about it like this. say you're camping. the best coolers that you can get (without spending $400+ on a cooler) will keep stuff cold for 5 days in 90 degree weather. you need to put a LOT of ice in it, and it's going to be big, and heavy.

    or you could just carry a 12 pack of this, without the cooler. it's quite a big difference....

    then again, i just bring water when i camp, and i don't care if it's cold so it wouldn't matter much to me.

  11. Re:Conversion by Auckerman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The funny thing about this, I think MOST americans can't think in fluid ounces (since it's not cups, pints or quarts) and would probabally find mL a more useful measurement.

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  12. Re:recycle = evil by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Hahaha gimme a break. The Property and Environment Research Center of that great metropolis, Bozeman, Montana?

    The production of steel from recycled stock requires only 24% of the energy required to produce it from iron ore. Aluminum recycling takes only 5% of the energy required to produce aluminum from bauxite. Plastic should be recycled because, when dumped, it leaches chemicals into the environment.

    The fact that a bunch of backwoods libertarians think recycling is a loss is because classic property-rights libertarians are, for whatever reason, totally incapable of valuing externalities such as pollution and future production.

  13. Re:Conversion by Ioldanach · · Score: 2, Insightful
    And for those of us outside the US, can is slang for a urinal. So this company produced a self cooling urinal, cause you know how slippery those things can get when you've been sitting on it for a while and start sweating.

    Which has yet another meaning to those in the US. In the US, the urinal is what a male uses standing up. You don't sit on one. Now, a toilet you sit on, so to treat it as US slang he created a tiny self cooling toilet.

  14. Re:What gets hot? by pclminion · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Energy must be conserved, but nothing necessarily has to get hot, at least in the short term. If you put you can into an ice/water bath, the can will cool down, and the temperature of the ice/water bath will not change.

    Right, but although the ice/water temperature is staying constant, the ice is melting, therefore the entropy is increasing.

    When I first read the story it didn't occur to me that they could be using a chemical process. In that case, the heat extracted from the soda is transformed into chemical potential energy. But entropy still had to increase, back in the factory where the chemical agent was first manufactured.

  15. Re:What gets hot? by tgibbs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, but we're not talking about a state change here, at least not for the liquid water. The ice does go through a state change in order to transition to liquid water, but the liquid water has to get from 0 C to 100 C, and it does so, but in this case it does so very, very slowly because of the dispersal of the thermodynamic change.

    The state change is from solid water (ice) to liquid water. All of the energy goes into converting ice to water, so the temperature of the bath does not change.

  16. Just feels like a waste... by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've never been very comfortable with disposable technology, reguardless of environmental ramifications or lack thereof. Hell, I'm still not comfortable with write-once media like CD-Rs, and even when I'm forced to use one I try to put as much information as possible on them to avoid wasting potential storage space.

    So I see something like this, and just... no. I don't see myself willingly using it. If the refrigeration technology is so efficient, clean and/or inexpensive, put it into a reusable cooler instead of the disposable cans. You'd get the added benefits of economy of scale (both in price and refrigeration) and it won't be such a pain in the ass to dismantle the cans to recycle them.

    Or am I the only crazy person who cares?