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JibJab Wins - 'This Land' is Public Domain

The Importance of writes "JibJab, creators of the hilarious parody of Woody Guthrie's 'This Land is Your Land' featuring Pres. Bush and Sen. Kerry, were first threatened with a lawsuit and then, with the help of EFF, went to court first in a pre-emptive strike. Well, EFF discovered that the song has actually been in the public domain since 1973 because it was first published in a songbook [PDF] in 1945 and the copyright was never renewed. The case has now been settled. Here are some addtional links."

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  1. Re:Protected speech already? Oh wait... by ubera · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to his site, Weird Al always gets permission first, though it's characterised as a notification:

    "Q. Does Al get permission to do his parodies?

    A. Al does get permission from the original writers of the songs that he parodies. While the law supports his ability to parody without permission, he feels it's important to maintain the relationships that he's built with artists and writers over the years. Plus, Al wants to make sure that he gets his songwriter credit (as writer of new lyrics) as well as his rightful share of the royalties."

    --
    But what is the SIGnificance?
  2. This song is my song, this song is your song by kfg · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not only great news for This Land is Your Land lovers, but for lovers of all of Woody's music, because the same case will apply to any other of Woody's songs that Ludlow failed to renew.

    Time to do some research people.

    I hate to place a fly in the ointment though, especially in public where Ludlow's lawyers might see it, but the Sonny Bono Copyright Act extended copyright retroactively, including onto those titles that had already fallen into the public domain. This has been a real pain to online publishers of public domain works, many of whom have withdrawn certain titles that were clearly in the public domain when they first posted them.

    To my knowledge this portion of the act has never actually been tested in court though, and still hasn't since this issue was resolved by the withdrawl of the complaint. They are free to remake it for some decades.

    In this case though we still have Woody's own grant of public rights on first publication. I wonder if that didn't influence Ludlow's action, since going to court over the issue would inevitably bring that up. They may wish to avoid a judicial ruling on that score.

    KFG

  3. Re:At least... by drakyri · · Score: 5, Informative

    Citation: WoodyGuthrie.com

  4. This example is especially Sick. by Irvu · · Score: 5, Informative
    Of all the songs in the world to have a sick copyright fight of this type over "This Land is Your Land" (or indeed anything by Guthrie) should be exempt. Guthrie was a lifelong advocate for the rights of the poor, a labor agitator.

    The song itself is all about the value of the country and how it should be shared by all of us.

    The version that I (and most of the people that I know) learned in school goes:


    This land is your land, this land is my land
    From the redwood forest to the New York island.
    From the snow-capped mountains to the Gulf Stream waters
    This land is made for you and me.

    As I go walkin' my ribbon of highway
    I see all around me my blue blue skyway
    Everywhere around me the wind keeps a-whistlin'
    This land is made for you and me.

    I'm a-chasin' my shadow out across this roadmap
    To my wheat fields waving, to my cornfield dancing
    As I go walkin' this wind keeps talkin'
    This land is made for you and me.

    I can see your mailbox, I can see your doorstep
    I can feel my wind rock your tip-top treetop
    All around your house there my sunbeam whispers
    This land is made for you and me.


    That is the version as it was first recorded at guthrie's last commercial session. Interestingly enough there is a missing verse that shows up in a few rare recordings that appear in the Library of Congress. It states:


    "Was a big high wall there that tried to stop me
    A sign was painted, said 'Private property.'
    But on the other side it didn't say nothing.
    This land was made for you and me."

    This shows up in a recording that Woodie made that is now part of the Smithsonian Folkways recordings (see here and Here).

    I can't think of a more appropriate response to this than that.

    You can see more info:
    • At an NPR story: here and here
    • Here for more info.
    • Here for info from the Woodiy Guthrie foundation.
    • Here for the Lyrics from Arlo Guthrie, Woody's Son.


    • IMHO whoever claims to "own" this is as sick as the people who claim to "own" the image of Martin Luther King as property. See the commentrary at the internet archive: here.
  5. Re:Only out of politeness... by overunderunderdone · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wired had a story about their approach to technology a few years ago that was very interesting. They are NOT all-around luddites. They evaluate any technology against it's likely impact on society and reject those they believe to be negative. Phones for instance are not allowed INDOORS because they believe phones disrupt the relationships in the home by allowing anyone to interrupt at any time - phones obligate you to be rude to the people you are actually with. But phones are allowed OUTSIDE the home and are used in conjunction with voice mail and/or fax machines to facilitate communication without being ruled by it.

    Also their prohibitions are not iron-clad. If they have good reasons to do so they will override their day-to-day prohibitions.