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Top Banned Books of 2003

michaelzhao writes "The ALA (American Library Association) recently published the new 100 most frequently banned books list of 2003. Of the banned books, Harry Potter was in the number 7th place in the most frequently banned. Also included were 'Where's Waldo' and 'The Giver' along with 'Goosebumps' and 'How to Eat Fried Worms.' These books were banned from various public institutions. This means that they were banned from various public libraries and public schools around the nation. (private schools, libraries, and institutions of higher learning don't count) The ALA encourages the people of the United States to fight against the book bans and read a banned book today!"

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  1. Re:Why Harry? by Mr.+Arbusto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't get The Giver being banned either. It was REQUIRED reading when I was in middle school, and then again in High School.

    Why would it be banned? Depicts socialism and controled death?

  2. People are stupid. by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No question after seeing the list and finding these.

    5. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

    56. James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

    88. Where's Waldo? by Martin Hanford

    96. How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell

    That list is disturbing. The ones I highlited here are some of what I read that really shouldn't be banned in my own opinion. Though I think no book should be banned, it's up to people to shepard their children and decide for themselves.

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    1. Re:People are stupid. by Ranger96 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then obviously you need to read Huckleberry Finn again. Your comment hightlights the exact ignorance that leads to people wanting this book (and others like it) banned. They may or may not have read the book, and if they have, they didn't understand it.

      Specifically, Huckleberry Finn uses a specific cultural setting to deliver an anti-racist messsage.

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    2. Re:People are stupid. by canadian_right · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't think you quite get "freedom of speech" if those are the only books that "really shouldn't be banned". NO BOOK should be banned for holding an unpopular opinion. Libel laws should handle most damaging factual errors in published works, but I don't think any fiction should be banned. Sure, not all books should be read by elementary school students, but that doesn't justify banning the book.

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  3. Re:Why Harry? by wired_parrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The difference is in the number of copies published. J.K. Rowling has achieved a phenomenom that C.S. Lewis could not even dream of. With fame comes greater scrutiny. I'm sure there's hundreds of books depicting magic and paganism and ways more objectionable to religious fundamentalists, but none of them achieved the level of book sales that Harry Potter did.

  4. That's a tad harsh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you wouldn't like your kids reading those books, fine; the library doesn't have to stock them. Schools choose what books they do and do not show, and it's well within their right to simply not accept copies of "Sex", but banning them altogether is certainly inappropriate. Ultimately, it's the reader's choice whether or not he/she wants to read a book, not the author's; no book should be completely banned.

    Not shelved, fine. If there's a book in the school library that you'd rather not fall into your child's hands, petition to have it removed from the shelf, or made inaccessible to younger children. But banned completely, based on the objective opinions of a mother? No.

    1. Re:That's a tad harsh. by Krach42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The thing is that the ALA is counting any book that a parent raises an objection about, and thus some action is taken upon the book.

      You've said the school has every right to choose what books they stock. Right, but the ALA will list a book as "banned" just because the school chooses not the shelve it.

      "If there's a book in the school library that you'd rather not fall into your child's hands, petition to have it removed from the shelf, or made inaccessible to younger children." Such a book that would be removed would still be counted by the ALA as a banned book.

      "But banned completely, based on the objective opinions of a mother? No." So a single lone mother who objects to an elementary age child reading a book describing, lets say, a gratutiously descriptive account of a rape, would be wrong and inappropriate?

      The children can still read these books, if the parents want them to. But the same as a school wouldn't allow an R rated movie to be shown to any child on school grounds (regardless of who owns it, and who's watching it, and what kind of parental permission they have) there are some books that are INAPPROPRIATE for the student at school.

      But they can still read the books at home, because they're not actually BANNED. They're just this nebulous thing that the ALA calls "banned", because they have had action taken against them, and have been removed, or moved due to the objections of one or MORE parents.

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  5. Re:So What? by shalla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And many of them SHOULD be banned. I'd be pretty ticked if my kid brought home some of the books from that list from school.

    And while I respect your right to decide what your child reads, you do NOT have the right to decide what MY child reads or what OTHER PEOPLE's children read. Just because you find Bridge to Terabithia to be crap doesn't mean all kids do, and I want my child to be able to check it out of a school library.

    Keep in mind that this list does not just reflect school libraries, and that this is a list of challenges to books, not necessarily that all these books have been successfully removed from libraries.

    I'd also disagree that Heather Has Two Mommies is inappropriate for elementary school kids. We have books picturing heterosexual couples, why not homosexual ones? It's not like the book advocates for only homosexual couples, or has sexual tones. Shockingly enough, there are also picture books about death out there. These kinds of books have a purpose. If your child brings it home, sit down and talk about it. If you don't want them reading it, tell them that. My parents vetted my reading.

    If we're going to censor everything anyone finds offensive or inappropriate for their children, we're not going to have any materials in libraries.

  6. Re:banning by barcodez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well yes, if your employer asks you to do something immoral or just plain wrong then you don't do it - seems simple enough to me - it's people blindly following orders that lets things like Hitler's Germany happen.

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  7. Re:banning by Ranger96 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow - only three levels in the thread and there's already a technical violation of Godwin's law!

    I would agree with you about immoral activities. However, a school board telling a teacher not to teach certain material does not fall into that category. It may be unfortunate or anti-intellectual, but not immoral.

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  8. Re:So What? by Krach42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not only that, but many of the books weren't even banned, but the parents rather requested that they be simply moved. As in "This doesn't seem appropriate for a first grader to be reading. Do you think you could move it to a fourth or fifth grade level area?" The ALA makes no distinction about this, and the book being "banned".

    Also, I heard a story from a parent, whose child in the second grade (it was elementary school at the least), was reading a book that had a vivid description of a rape scene. ... YES! This child is being subjected to a book, that were it a movie, it would have been rated R (or at best PG-13) and wouldn't be able to see on their own. And heaven FORBID that the school would sanction such a movie to be shown to the child.

    So, the parent complains, and the school complies, and the ALA lists it as a "banned" book.

    The ALA has a decent idea here, fight censorship, but they have to be aware, we should but the same sort of standards on our literature that we put on our movies. There simply are some books that aren't appropriate for children.

    And NEVER have these "banned" books been truly banned. If the parent, or the child really wanted the book, they could obtain it for their child to read. It was just felt by the school system, that it wasn't appropriate for them to supply it.

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  9. Re:So What? by suwain_2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Daddy's Roommate / Heather Has Two Mommies

    I'm not so sure how I feel about this one. Something like "The New Joy of Gay Sex" I could understand. But I like the idea of people seeing a homosexual couple as normal. (Conservatives will totally flip out over that?)

    Go back 150 years, and imagine it was "Heather Has a Black Mommy." I'm not trying to defend gay marriage here or anything, but I think it's the same thing -- I strongly doubt the objection to this book was because of the homosexuality, as opposed to the homosexuality.

    A homosexual couple has nothing to do with sex until, well, they have sex. It'd be like banning a book with a mother and father because they have a heterosexual relationship. The mere act of having a child proves they had sex!

    I haven't read the book, but if it doesn't cover their bedroom activities, I don't see the problem. But maybe that's why I'm a liberal democrat.

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  10. Re:Why Harry? by LarsWestergren · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I read the CS Lewis books as a kid, I loved them all up to the last one (don't remember the name of it). I was six or seven, but even at that age I reacted against the judgemental mean-spiritedness of it. Here the preceding books had showed the endless fatherly love of the Lion, and here he let the world end, and a huge number of living beings die. If I remember correctly, all living beings passed by him, and those who passed into his shadow faded away forever.

    When I got older, I read that it was basically the End of Days/Second coming of Christ, for kids. The two evil and foolish characters the Monkey and the Donkey represented scientists (evolution, get it?) and disbelievers. This didn't make me like the book any better.

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  11. Re:Why Harry? by suwain_2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This causes a problem with some Christian organizations, as it's clearly against their teaching.

    And the opinion of "some Christian organizations" is impacting what's in a public school? (Maybe it's nothing new, but it still shouldn't be happening.)

    How about the Qur'an? Do stories about an Islamic child get banned? It's clearly against their teachings, whether it's witchcraft, Buddhism, or Judaism.

    Not that I'm a fan of Harry Potter (I saw that movie with family, and got up several times to just pace through the hallways, as it was more interesting). Not that I'm against Christianity (I'm a practicing Catholic). I just don't think the Christian church has any right to control what's in a public school.

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  12. Re:Why Harry? by drudd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At the end of my senior english class in high school, the professor passed around a similar list of top 10 most frequently banned books.

    More than half of them were on our reading lists, either in that class, or in previous english classes.

    I think anything worth reading has probably been banned by someone, somewhere, since almost by definition it has interesting ideas which must offend/annoy/worry someone.

    Doug

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  13. Re:So What? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well, I don't know about banning them, but quite a few of the books on that list certainly qualify as total crap.

    Just because you don't like them doesn't mean you have the right to prevent other people or other people's kids from reading them. If we could ban anything that people considered crap, Britney Spears and the all those "Spice Boy" bands would not be played on any radio stations if it was up to me.

    * Daddy's Roommate / Heather Has Two Mommies Well, need I say anything? These obviously don't belong in a school library. Six year old kids don't need to be learning about homosexuality anymore than they need to be learning about heterosexuality. Leave this stuff for the later years - like when they can at least tie their own shoes.

    I agree with you that material that deal with sexuality (homo or hetero) is not approprite to younger children. But the list is not definitive on what was banned and where. If these books were banned from a high school, I would have a problem with it.

    Really, most of the books on that list suck. Some are great, but not many (Slaughter House for example). And many of them SHOULD be banned. I'd be pretty ticked if my kid brought home some of the books from that list from school. Others, though, make no sense at all. Really odd.

    I think you answered our own question. People with strong opinions like yourself have probably taken on themselves to make sure that the libraries in their area do not carry books that are against their beliefs or tastes. I think one reason why the list is so huge is that some people don't distinguish between material they don't like with material that offends them. They think that they can speak for everyone and have that material banned.

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  14. Re:What about "Unfit for Command" by suwain_2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isn't quite what it appears.

    John Kerry's claiming the book is incorrect; he didn't use the word (that I see), but it's essentially saying it's a slander campaign. He's asking that they stop selling a book that's just out to slander him.

    He's not legislating it away because it's damaging to him.

    Granted, I'm a Kerry supporter, and you're clearly (by your signature) anti-Kerry. It's no secret that if you support someone, you'll make allowances for things, and if you oppose them, you'll blow things out of proportion. Which is why I hate arguing about politics.

    Asking someone not to carry what you perceive as a slanderous book is totally different than him trying to legislate it away, which is what's suggested.

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  15. Huck Finn, To Kill A Mockingbird, etc. by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is one that always confounded me.

    Books that deal with issues of race are often banned by people who object to racism. I sometimes think it's because they haven't actually read the books, but have merely done the kind of sanctimonious counting of "offensive" terms or situations (e.g., like the CAP Alerts. Or anybody remember that lady who talked to the Meese commission, and enumerated the number of times the word "horny" was used in Catcher in the Rye?). You could argue this for several of the books:

    Huck Finn was clearly written with an anti-racist agenda, but was written ironically, from the perspective of an ignorant kid. It contains the word "nigger" many, many times. As a result of these two factors, it's considered by some as inappropriate for children.

    To Kill A Mockingbird deals with a rape trial, and therefore could be considered inappropriate for kids. It also contains a lot of racial slurs and violence.

    I think what's underlying the attacks on these books, though, is less these characteristics (which are usually the nominal reasons for banning them), but the anti-authority themes running through the books. They question the conventional morality of the times they describe. People who don't like that kind of thinking may find that mroe offensive than all of the ostensible faults of the books. They don't wnat to encourage this kind of questioning (of course, they're way too late to try to stop it now.)

    You can see a similar effect, by the way, against some of the best anti-authoritarian books like Animal Farm ("it makes kids think animals can talk!"), Brave New World ("but it mentions sex!"), Slaugherhouse Five ("it's filthy!"), and so forth.

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  16. Re:So What? by The+Snowman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not that I agree with banning it, but I can appreciate some academics having trouble with the material (Atticus Finch is seen as a "nigger lover" - a quote straight from the book, btw).

    Academics should be broadening the minds of tomorrow's leaders. Racism still is an issue in our country, although not as bad as it used to be. "To Kill a Mockingbird" does explore racism a little bit, and that is a good thing. Banning it for quotes such as what you mentioned is a very bad thing. That is like living in denial -- if I pretend that word does not exist, it will not (at least not in my head). Ludicrous.

    When my son is old enough to go to school I will be very proactive and make sure he learns about these issues. I will encourage him to read banned books if his school acts stupid. Government censorship is evil. There are two people allowed to censor what my son sees, and the other one is my wife.

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  17. Re:Define "Banned" by base3 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What moron modded that tripe insightful? If you took the trouble to read the article, you would have known that this wasn't a list of books libraries simply chose not to carry, but that were specifically challeneged.

    Your comparison to porn is disingenuous or ignorant--most of the books were banned, yes, banned in those school district or public libraries because they contained cultural or political views that offended a few squeaky wheels.

    Lastly, while it's nice that you and I have plenty of money to buy whatever books may not be found in a library, I for one would like to see my tax-funded libraries not reacting for or against some would-be censor's political agenda.

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  18. Re:Pft, whimpy stuff by Class+Act+Dynamo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am Jewish and I, of course, believe that the Holocaust happened in all its horror. But, by banning books that deny it rather than letting them remain in the open to be argued against, we look as if we have something to hide. It also brings unnecesary attention to such filth. Let these people publish their garbage in the open and get torn to shreds by others who know what they are talking about.

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  19. Re:So What? by ambrosine10 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Heh. People didn't see interracial couples as "normal". There were laws against it for many years, they didn't get repealed until the 60s.

    A lot of things considered "normal" today - women voting, blacks not being slaves, minorities having equal rights - were not in previous years. What makes you think that our idea of "normal" today is any better than it was a hundred years ago?

    The reason why we need "feverish activist campaigns" is because there are bigots like you - the same kind of people who were against civil rights 40 years ago - trying to repress a segment of society. And that's what they're fighting.

  20. Book bannings are like book burnings by I-R-Baboon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The burning of books has long been a sign of an oppressive regime flexing it's muscles of propaganda to strike down things that counter their essence. From early Chinese emperors burning scrolls and burying the scholars alive to erradicate knowledge up to the Nazis burning books and sending off their undesirables to death camps. While some have been successful in their campaign to destroy knowledge and hide it, for the most part it is an exercise in futility. Reasons for burning books are typically to keep those sorts of ideas and concepts from the masses, reasons for banning books are to keep those sorts of ideas and concepts from the masses. In the age of the Internet this is a shallow useless act that only shows a repressive nature of somebody or some group.

    Some books are banned because they showcase the shame of America, like Huckleberry Finn with the word nigger being used correctly in context as it was for the time the story was wrote in. Does banning this book for printing the word nigger as it was used make bigotry and racism go away, change history and the fact that it was used, miracle away American hypocrisy of liberty and justice for all except slaves? By not learning the truth and being exposed to facts we erradicate the lessons we should have learned. Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. If you have such a serious problem with a book, close the cover and get rid of it. If you are such a failure as a parent you don't want little George reading a book because you don't have the time to invest in your child, don't get them the book. If they have book because they do not want to follow in your silhouette, take it from them or find somebody to be the parent you are not. Nobody is making you read them, why force others down to your level of illiteracy.

    Putting a book on a banlist is a quick way to get my attention, and usually much more reliable for a good read than the bestseller listings. Celebrate the banned book list, check them off as you read each one.

    No book should be banned, censorship spawns ignorance.

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  21. Re:Why Harry? by SEE · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The difference?

    Magic is never used by good mortals in C.S. Lewis's books, except in the case of Merlin in That Hideous Strength -- and even there, Merlin's use of magic is depicted as something that placed his soul in jeopardy, only to be saved when he turns himself over to angelic beings as a vessel for their power.

    Certainly, specific items of power are used by good mortals, when given to them as a gift, while Aslan sometimes uses poer directly. The analogy is miraculous gifts and Divine intervention.

    Now, let's look at Harry Potter and his friends. Is their approach more like the Holy Spirit descending on the Apostles and granting them the power to heal, or Simon the Magician asking to be taught how to perform those miracles? Like being handed a healing cordial by Santa Claus, or by studying to learn the Deplorable Word? Like being given an apple of life by Aslan, or like carefully separating and purifying magic dust to create rings to travel by? Like letting an angel posess you and work through you, or learning the secrets of making things obey your will?

  22. Re:Why Harry? by Yokaze · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Reminds me of Kino no Tabi (Kino's Travels). In one episode, Kino travels to the Land of the Books. They value books very high and in exchange for one book you may lend one from their Great Library.
    Finally, reaching the library of the country, Kino looks for an interesting book. The library of the country, which prides itself in books, however has only two rooms of books, and not a single interesting one.

    They only have books in the library, which are officially aproved because they don't unsettle someone.

    I've learned English as a foreign language, and in my last year at school, we read "Catcher in the Rye", "Brave New World", "Lord of the Flies".
    Somehow disturbing to hear that US-American pupils are now practically prohibited from analysing and discussing those books under the guidance of a teacher.

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  23. Re:2003? Recent? by SlartibartfastJunior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I work in a small bookstore, and looking through this list, it's pretty much the required summer reading for this area (minus the sex books). I'm in a pretty conservative part of the south, too - perhaps it's GOOD that kids are reading something that causes them to think about racism, gender stereotypes, religious differences, etc.

  24. Re:banning by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Did we just equate a school board's request to not cover a book with the massacre of millions of Jews?

    Censorship is bad. But if someone gives into the school board's request, rather than putting up a fight and getting herself fired, I fail to see the parallels to the Holocaust.

    Okay, so the Nazis banned some stuff. I think the similarities end there.

    How do you think the Nazis rose to power? How do you think the Nazis managed to get popular support to massacre the Jews? How do you think Hitler and co. managed to take control of the Reichstag and undermine the (flawed) democracy of the weimar republic?

    The Nazis came to power because the Germans were forced into blind obedience by the own fear and insecurity. Many people like to think that it was some violent coup d'etat or something that made Hitler chancellor then fuhrer. No, Hitler was democratically elected by good decent Germans (I say that with no intended irony) because they just didn't care what he was doing because at the time they thought they had bigger problems. They let themselves be bullied by the browncoats in the street, they let themselves be frightened by the Communists. They had the power to stop Hitler's tyranny but they didn't stand up for their rights because they were obedient.

    Look, I am not usually a fan of disregarding Goodwin's law, at least so early in a discussion but this is an important thing to consider in this topic. Fascism is the product of total obedience as concretely as anarchy is the product of total disobedience. Do what you are told when it is wrong and you are no better than the guards at Auschwitz operating the death chamber. Sure, what an average person is asked to do in a compromising situation is not nearly as heinous as genocide, but I am sure the average SS officer didn't go straight to genocide from helping old ladies across the road either.

    It is ignorance of an unforgivable magnitude to compare 1944 Germany to your own country and then immediately assume that your country is immune to fascism simply because there are no deathcamps around. Nazism started as a simple mix of national pride and workers rights, both intrinsically good things, but pretty much the complete basis of the worst tyranny in recorded history. Nazism was truely a good thing for Germany for a while and the Germans loved it, just as we love benign things in our own societies today. The Germans could not see what Nazism really was, because by the time it unveiled itself it was too late and Germany was already dependant on it. Can you confidently say that there is nothing evil like that lurking in our society with any more cirtainty than the Germans had? But we are far more fortunate than the Germans of the nineteen thirties because we now KNOW what can happen and we CAN do something about it. However Nazism happened to good, well meaning people before and it can happen to us too, you just have to let it. Will you?

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  25. Re:So What? by UnrepentantHarlequin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and what of childrens' innocence?

    Children's innocence is an adult fantasy.

    My parents tried hard to keep me not only sheltered, but their "little baby girl" forever. Yet by the time I was 10, I knew all the facts (or at least myths) of life, courtesy of classmates. I knew things that would have curled my parents' hair. Children were far from "innocent" when I was 10 years old -- and I'll be 42 in September.

    Unless you isolate your children from every child who knows a child who knows a child who has seen mommy and her boyfriend going at it on the couch, unless your isolate your children from every child who knows a child who knows a child who has been molested by her uncle, unless you isolate your children from every child who knows a child who knows a child who knows about something you want to pretend doesn't exist, there is no "innocence." There never was. There is only adult blindness, pretending that if we don't talk to children about things we don't like then those things will go away, or at least never affeact our children.

  26. Re:Why Harry? by __aailob1448 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    who's this "muslems" guy you're talking about???

    i sure as hell didn't threaten that Salman rushdie guy with anything. In fact, not a single muslim I know did either...

    Please stop thinking of "muslems" as some kind of hivemind. some ayatollahs wrote fatwas against the guy, that's all. and it just so happens that the vast, crushing majority of muslims don't pay any attention whatsoever to some obscure fatwa written by some unknown imam from god knows what country calling himself an "ayatollah". (ayatollah means "verse of god" and is basically a pretty looking title some dudes felt like having...god knows why)

    Always remember, Islam is as decentralized a religion as it gets, there is no hierarchy of any sort, anyone can become an Imam if he wants to. he just reads or memorizes the coran, goes up early in the morning and starts shouting the call to prayer, if people show up, he can lead the prayer. that's about it.

    heck, muslims don't even have to go the mosque if they don't want to. much less feel obligated to follow a fatwa (which is really just a statement of opinion that anybody can write with no other weight than what that particular Imam's congregation feel like giving it.
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  27. Re:Why Harry? by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the librarians were stocking the shelves with Mein Kampf and Unfit for Command and The Bell Curve, to the exclusion of Heather Has Two Mommies, you can be sure that all the pious liberals now deploring censorship would be bitching front and center at the next school board meeting.

    Funny, the public library where I live has all of those. I don't see a bunch of agnostics and Democrats picketing!

    Perhaps librarians as a group just tend to be intellectually honest and believe in making books available, even the ones they don't necessarily agree with.

    Perhaps (some) people on the right are much more likely to be frightened of the free exchange of ideas. To be fair, in some countries, the left IS doing the banning.

    Purchacing decisions are not in themselves true censorship, as you say. However, not purchacing a book that has a greatb deal of demand BECAUSE some people object to it most definatly IS censorship.