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Florida Ruling May Lead To E-voting Paper Trail
dorkus123 points out this Palm Beach Post story which begins "An administrative law judge over-ruled an administrative decision Friday that the 15 counties that use touch-screen voting systems must be able to perform manual recounts in extremely close elections." Prior to this, counties using touch-screen voting were exempt from a requirement requiring that certified voting machines be amenable to manual recounts. wierzpio adds a link to the AP's similar story.
An administrative law judge over-ruled an administrative decision Friday. The 15 counties that use touch-screen voting systems must be able to perform manual recounts in extremely close elections.
If the correct count is close (i.e. a human would be likely to get it wrong), then we bring in the humans to add error. So yeah, stealing the election...but not by the machines.
It's tragic. Laugh.
Then it scrolls out of view for the next voter.
Everything would be on one continuous numbered roll. With each vote accounted for in the same manner as those numbered voting slips they give us now.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
And if you REALLY want to cheat the system you can vote twice...r ont/story/ 224449p-192807c.html ...
http://www.nydailynews.com/08-22-2004/f
"Some 46,000 New Yorkers are registered to vote in both the city and Florida, a shocking finding that exposes both states to potential abuses that could alter the outcome of elections, a Daily News investigation shows."
"The News' investigation also found:
# Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn't claim a party.
# Nearly 1,700 of those registered in both states requested that absentee ballots be mailed to their home in the other state, where they are also registered. But that doesn't raise red flags with officials in either place."
That's the way the US does it, too; in principle. One of the problems in Florida/2000 came about when voters made mistakes and either marked more than one candidate for a single post, thus invalidating the ballot, or were confused by the ballot layout and possibly voted for someone they did not intend to vote for. Matters were not helped when the media spread the "butterfly ballot" story and many who figured they might have made a mistake tried to contact election officials to either check or verify their vote, which of course cannot happen while maintaining voter anonymity, etc.
The election officials decided to nit-pick over what the cutoff was for declaring an invalid ballot by talking about the stupid chad business. And really, in the UK, what if someone puts a mark in next to their preferred candidate and then accidentally, and unknowingly drags the marker (pen, pencil?) over the ballot and makes a small mark over another candidate's area.
At what point does voter intent become unclear enough to invalidate a ballot?
Florida...we put the corrupt in corruption....
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Seriously when I hear/heard about the crap going on there it made me want to cut Florida off and send it to Cuba. If your in Florida and Black or a Democrat vote by absentee to make sure your vote counts. Any calls you get that the election day has changed or that they are trying to serve warrents at the voting booth are wrong.
Note that Republicans in Florida sent out a flier to some Miami-Dade Republicans that read "New electronic voting machines do not have a paper ballot to verify your vote in case of a recount. Make sure your vote counts, order your absentee ballot today."
And of course if on the VERY off chance that your a new citizen in Florida who happens to read
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/929294
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
Where people get turned away from voting stations by police, disenfranchised because they share the same name as people who were previously convicted of crimes in other US states, have to put up with butterfly ballot papers (only in the poorest districts though) and where chads reign supreme.
And don't forget all those that VOTED TWICE in the same election.
"the newspaper found that between 400 and 1,000 registered voters voted twice in at least one election, a federal offense punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.
Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68 percent are Democrats, 12 percent are Republicans and 16 percent didn't align themselves with a party, the newspaper reported on Sunday. "
You misquoted the first line in your post. I was confused at first on how can it be good that a decision to require paper trails was "overruled"? The word was meant to be "ruled".
California already decirtified Dieblod's machines due to excessive problems.
How did America get to the point where the fear of rigged elections (normally something reserved for so called "rogue states") is so real that many feel the neat to bring in overseers from abroad? Is it really ture that you always become what you hate?
Your pizza just the way you ought to have it.
I've done this in Québec in the early 90s as a representative of the BQ and it is a big city. It was interesting to see the cheating but not able to do anything about it.
I complained as I recognized a person that had voted at my table voting at another table but was told to shut up or I would be expelled.
When we were counting, the governing party representive would reject the votes for the BQ for any irregularity on the ballot, like the crossed being a bit smudged or being too small even though it was obvious who the voter was voting for. I was allowed to object but if I objected too often I risked being kicked out.
Your argument about the size is not valid, what makes a system works is when the rules are equal for all sides and that an honest election and election count is performed.
In Québec all the people who counted the votes were volunteers so there is no cost involved except perhaps some pop and snacks brough by the parties.
It turns out that in the county where I worked there was heavy cheating but it was not true in all counties, it depended on who the asshole in charge was. The head of the team was a reprensentaive of the incumbant party in that county.