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UN Supports OSS/Free Software In Developing World

headisdead writes "This BBC report has details of the IOSN's (International Open Source Network) role in yesterday's Software Freedom Day. As the article rightly points out, the economic potential of these new markets for large tech corporations like MS makes this a real battle in the making. Question is, can Free Software really stem the tide when other sustainal development projects are struggling so much?"

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  1. officail site ! by phreakv6 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is their official website since the article
    fails to mention it anywhere

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  2. FAIR, using FOSS (skolelinux) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some organisations are already using open source software in their work. Look at FAIR (http://www.fair.no/english/home.htm), a norwegain project that are bringing ICT-equipment to development countries. They are aming to use Skolelinux (http://www.skolelinux.org/) in their projects.

  3. Re:A fundamental question.. by HenrikOxUK · · Score: 4, Informative

    This story has just been getting way out of hand. The UN has alsmost nothing to do with this, appart from being a regular supporter of one of the over 60 teams world-wide.

  4. Re:Copenhagen event pictures by HenrikOxUK · · Score: 3, Informative

    To be fair, I guess I should also Slashdot the gallery of the Dutch team in Arnhem.

  5. Re:Money by krymsin01 · · Score: 4, Informative

    A lot of third world countries do not recognize copyright, so it wouldn't acutaly be pirated software there.

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  6. Re:US has an important stake in the UN, right ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Last I checked IBM, SUN, Oracle, HP, etc were all US companies, so what exactly is your point here?

  7. Dupe of old, misleading article by helarno · · Score: 4, Informative

    Argh. This is a dupe (though not Timothy's fault). The BBC picked up on and added to the original article by David Lugard, that Slashdot previously linked to here. The IOSN guys contacted them, requested a correction and in the process supplied BBC with additional information about what was done. However, the article, like all those based on the original IDG/Infoworld article, is misleading. The IOSN was merely publicizing the event and if you clicked through the link, you would see that. (Assuming it's not /.'ed. It was down the whole of last week due to two consecutive postings onto Slashdot.)

    Software Freedom Day's true website is at www.softwarefreedomday.org and credit should go to the great guys there who did so much to organize and publicize it, including the OpenCD people (Henrik) and others.

    1. Re:Dupe of old, misleading article by headisdead · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just to clarify my reasons for submitting the story: it was not to engage in a pro-UN propaganda exercise. Nor was it to promote the extremely good work by the people at Software Freedom Day. It was more to raise interest and debate in this particular instance of an international organisation's role in free software/oss, and the exponential number of issues which radiate out from that fact. Apologies for any confusion ;)

  8. Re:Money by zerblat · · Score: 4, Informative
    Actually, currently 156 states have signed the Berne Convention. I can't find a list of non-signees, but at least Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Nepal, Ethiopia and Somaila are missing. Anyway, I doubt there are many non-Berne countries with any significant computer usage.

    Of course, signing a convention and actually complying it are two different things...

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  9. [link] Gates on piracy (original) by leonbrooks · · Score: 2, Informative

    Open Letter to Hobbyists

    Top line: "Who can afford to do professional work for nothing?" Boy, has that one been thoroughly answered! (-:

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  10. [link] Microsoft _wants_ you to "pirate" software by leonbrooks · · Score: 5, Informative

    c|net interview 2 jul 1998

    Key phrase: "As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade."

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  11. [link] Bill gates prophecies the FOSS movement by leonbrooks · · Score: 2, Informative

    Jan 2000 transcript of 1980 interview

    "If something's expensive to develop, and somebody's not going to get paid, it won't get developed. So you decide: Do you want software to be written, or not?"

    We've decided, Bill, now stop hogging The Road Ahead, OK? (-:

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  12. Re:Money by The+Cydonian · · Score: 5, Informative
    A lot of third world countries do not recognize copyright, so it wouldn't acutaly be pirated software there.
    There's this 1985 study by the World Bank on exactly this issue. Turned out the actual graph of nations versus IPR protections (ie, copyrights, trademarks AND patents, although not necessarily software patents) was an inverse bell-curve; that is, the more improverished nations (sub-Saharan Africa?) actually had protection-levels equivalent to that of the (so-called) First World nations. Essentially, all their IPR laws were colonial-era laws; with other pressing issues taking center-stage, their governments didn't fiddle around with them. It was only nations that were (are) developing economies, notably countries such as Malaysia, China (?) and India (drugs industry as an example), that had lesser IPR protection because their industries needed tech fast.

    Of course, the WTO changes all that; now the graph is more or less a straight line. That is to say, that Windows XP SP2 CD you bought off Kuala Lumpur's streets for 8 ringgits is still illegal, even if it's affordable.

  13. Re:Money by n3m3sis · · Score: 2, Informative

    Excuse Me! Who's licencsing software in the third world! We get Windows a lot cheaper than redhat. Here in Pakistan Windows costs 30 Rupees (.5 US dollars) where as Mandrake costs 90 Rupees (1.5 US Dollars) WHy? Because windows comes in a single CD and Mandrake comes with 3 CDs thats why the additional cost

  14. Re:Money by Tonytheloony · · Score: 2, Informative
    Despite all their whining about software piracy I'm pretty sure that MS is delighted about this.

    And I can confirm this first hand, having spent 10 years in Singapore from 1988 'till 1998. An entire modern shopping center used to be the center of piracy in Singapore (Sim Lim square). Ath first (from 1988-1990?) you would go to any shop and choose games/software in a catalog. The guy would make copies for you on the spot.
    A few years later you could buy ziplock bags sitting on shelves with disks + manual for a few dollars. All in open view. From maybe 1994 onwards those disks became CDs. There were maybe 20-30 shops in the commercial center, none of them hiding. You would go buy your software like you would your groceries. I remember friend buying over 150 CDs (Windows, Office, games, 3D studio) at a time.
    Around 1998, it was widely consider that Singapore was not 3rd world anymore. People actually had the money to buy original software. Microsoft which had always turned a blind eye, started requesting that the government raid the shops. In 1999, all the shops selling pirated software suddenly closed. An over 10 year old activity was shut down in the blink of an eye.

    I am convinced that it was in MS's best interest to allow the rampant piracy until they had a strong foothold in the market. It made business sense anyway, at a time where no singaporean would spend the cash for an original version of Office.

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  15. Re:Developing countries and OSS by Ba3r · · Score: 2, Informative

    Frankly, from my experience writing and supporting software run in a manufacturing setting, users usually fall into two categories:

    1. oblivious to everything computer and frustrated by the whole mouse thing, not mention the crazy cutoff text and boxes and shadows and oh my eyes hurt!

    2. knows enough to be dangerous, likes to poke around, has a pc at home and downloads mp3s, chats on IM, plays games, and really, really wants to be able to do that while at work (and thus is always screwing around with system settings).

    The latter of which is perfectly capable of learning the Linux env, or mastering Windows intuitively. And the former is guaranteed to be confused by a microwave without a timer dial.

  16. Re:Money by LousyPhreak · · Score: 3, Informative

    there is absoluely no problem running linux on that spec, the real "problem" is windowmanagers like kde and gnome

    you can easily work with windowmaker, icewm, or whatever "small" wm is around but kde is imho VERY much like xp:
    has almost everything onboard
    needs huge amounts of processing power/ram
    is (what many say) "userfriendly"

    while i do use kde on my workstation (which is advanced enough to run it without slowdown) i would never use it on an old computer like a PII with 64MB. i guess (almost) no one would whine if his 20 year old golf cant carry a 10 ton trailer.

    so use the right tool for the job, its your choice (yea we all know thats what linux is all about)

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  17. BBC report by Quiberon · · Score: 2, Informative

    BBC seem to think 'free' means 'worse than cheap'. Not so; there is nothing inferior about Free Software. I think they know really, though; look at their proposed Free video codec