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Insurance Companies Try Out Auto Black Boxes

tekiegreg writes "It looks like the first black box test for auto insurance companies is underway. While this may be a privacy issue, it can also make better drivers out of everyone if insurance rates are adjustable based on the way everyone drives. This was covered on Slashdot before however this seems to be one of the first workups, that can even include tests on speed and braking, not just location."

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  1. Why I didn't renew my /. subscription by DAldredge · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/10/16 49252&tid=158&tid=126

    This is why I didn't renew my /. subscription. This exact same insurance company and program has been covered before (past 30 days).

    1. Re:Why I didn't renew my /. subscription by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Informative

      The URL I linked to contains the following.

      The trials will begin this year:

      Progressive will announce its TripSense trial in Minnesota on Aug. 24. Customers who sign up will get a device the size of a Tic Tac box to plug into their cars. The device will track speed and how many miles are driven at what times of day. Every few months, customers would unplug the device from the car, plug it into a computer, download the data and send it to Progressive. Depending on results, discounts will range from 5% to 25%.

  2. You've already got one... by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most new cars already already have a black box. It records things like acceleration level, braking inputs and vehicle speed.

    So far as I know, it only holds data for a short time, but if you are involved in an accident, the data can (and has been) accessed by law enforcement.

    something to think about?

  3. Re:No. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Informative

    In New Jersey, we have New Jersey Manufacturers Insurance. They give back a "dividend" at the end of the year of unused money, so to speak. I always get a couple hundred back.

    If you want cooperative insurance, in the real sense of the word "co-op," there's NJ CURE, which stands for something that has the words "reciprocal exchange" in it. It's like a credit union for car insurance...the policyholders own the company, which is a non-profit group.

    In NJ, you need your head examined if you don't get your car insurance through one of these two companies.

  4. Re:No. by mrscorpio · · Score: 4, Informative

    He didn't say it did.

    State Farm is the largest insurance company in the country with something like 15 million policy holders. I worked for a company that wasn't even half as big, and they didn't do up-to-the-minute underwriting. In fact, they can't - your policy is a contract that, barring certain exceptions, can't be cancelled or changed until renewal.

    When an insurance company is losing money, they tighten up the underwriting and raise the rates. The bottom line is that any claim is an instance where they had to pay money to you - that's what insurance is for, but obviously the company is going to prefer customers that don't file claims, or file less claims. In hard times, the definiton of "less claims" gets much stricter.

    They didn't "screw" you any more than you'd be "screwing" them if you chose to take your business elsewhere. Insurance companies have the choice (within set guidelines) to do business with a customer or not.

    I am no longer an active insurance man. Even when I was, I'd recommend all family and friends to rate-shop at least once a year, if not every six months. The reason is because while State Farm could be having bad times in one area, Progressive could be having a favorable claims climate and GEICO could be doing even better, or maybe there's some local upstart agent with a lot of cash in the bank trying to build a book of business. The principle of insurance is the exact opposite of that of the stock market, but the fundamentals are the same - know the strength of your company and factors that affect it. If your company is in the red for a quarter or a year, it's probably a good sign that rate increases or tigher underwriting coming soon.

  5. Re:No. by StarOwl · · Score: 3, Informative

    *sigh*....hit "submit" instead of "preview".

    The hyperlink is actually https://tripsense.progressive.com/, if you don't want to copy/paste the link.

  6. Not always the best choices... by Algan · · Score: 3, Informative
    As a matter of fact, since my insurance is up for renewall, I got quotes from these two along with a few others. NJM makes it a pain to obtain a quote, you have to call, leave a message with your address and they will send you the application (maybe). You fill it in and after a (good) while you might get a response. For me, their quote wasn't very interesting. NJ Cure was better, you fill a form online and they contact you in 2-3 days with a quote (which is quite good).



    Then Geico started doing business in NJ. I filled a form online, got a computer generated quote automatically, I followed up with a call that was answered immediatelly and in about 30 minutes I had a new policy that was $500/year lower than NJ Cure and approx $1000 lower than my previous insurance. So I guess I really did "save a bunch of money by switching to Geico" :)



    I guess the rest of the country is already used to this, but for us, insurance handicapped NJersians, this kind of service is like the Second Coming...

    --
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?
  7. Re:No. by can56 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hi, I also live in Canada, SK., and my main vehicle is an 1983 V65 Honda motorcycle. Care to guess what tags cost for this beast? (and yes, I have been driving for over 25 years without a single accident, and have the 7% discount). $800 CAD per year, which is more than the bike is worth. Saskatchewan Government Insurance changed the rules a few years ago for motorbike insurance, which is now based entirely on the engine size. So, tags for a 1100 cc, 20 year Honda now cost the same as those for a tricked- out 2004 Harley with the same engine size. Is life fair?