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CmdrTaco
on from the thats-just-bizarre dept.
cbull writes "USA Today has an article about practice for the attempts to capture the Genesis capsule. Helicopter stunt pilots will have 5 chances to capture the 400-lb. capsule. Military pilots were unavailable, due to the 6-year commitment required."
In Utah?
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Anonymous Coward
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JPL is going to be at the University of Utah and if you buy a ticket, you can watch a live feed of the catch at Kingsbury Hall.
But why are we letting the Mormons, the very people trying to destroy Linux (sco), host such an event?
Re:Bigger Parachute
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exi1ed0ne
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"If the Genesis capsule hits the ground hard, scientists say they'd have to spend months sorting through broken jewelry-studded disks holding tiny solar wind particles."
Reading is fundamental
-- Pessimists.net - as if life wasn't depressing enough.
Re:Bigger Parachute
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vandoravp
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Another article in some other paper (sorry no link) said that they did not want to risk any kind of touch down since it was carrying actual samples. Any significant shock could damage the sample container which would lead to either a loss of particles or contamination-not good either way. They're just playing it safe and doing away with that kind of landing all together. Besides, it's damn cool.
Re:Bigger Parachute
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betelgeuse-4
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Re:6 year commitment?
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jon787
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Actually I sent these people some email after hearing a claim of this being a first (which isn't true, project Corona did mid-air recovery of returning space capsules) and they have a few people who did this during project Corona.
Not saying that there aren't new aspects, merely that the capability was present 30 years ago.
Re:Hmm... sounds tricky
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Deadstick
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So, what the hell rates a 10?
Landing on an aircraft carrier at night.
rj
Re:6 year commitment?
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Deadstick
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Yep, they used to snatch the parachutes with a T-shaped bar trailing from a C-119...if you can do it with a 60,000-pound, 200 mph airplane, you can certainly do it with a helicopter.
rj
Re:Bigger Parachute
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dspacemonkey
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Catching it as it falls from orbit is a tried and tested technique too.
It was used to catch film from spy satellites back in the days when they still used wet film.
Theres a description of the first satellites to use it (Corona) here,
and the google cache for good measure.
So catching payloads in mid air has a longer history and more successful reoveries than a couple of mars landers. They did use military pilots though;o)
JPL is going to be at the University of Utah and if you buy a ticket, you can watch a live feed of the catch at Kingsbury Hall.
But why are we letting the Mormons, the very people trying to destroy Linux (sco), host such an event?
"If the Genesis capsule hits the ground hard, scientists say they'd have to spend months sorting through broken jewelry-studded disks holding tiny solar wind particles."
Reading is fundamental
Pessimists.net - as if life wasn't depressing enough.
Another article in some other paper (sorry no link) said that they did not want to risk any kind of touch down since it was carrying actual samples. Any significant shock could damage the sample container which would lead to either a loss of particles or contamination-not good either way. They're just playing it safe and doing away with that kind of landing all together. Besides, it's damn cool.
"If the capsule were to descend all the way to the ground, [the wafers used to trap the particles] might fracture or break away from their mountings; hence, the midair retrieval by helicopter ..."
Decode these
Actually I sent these people some email after hearing a claim of this being a first (which isn't true, project Corona did mid-air recovery of returning space capsules) and they have a few people who did this during project Corona.
Closest Thing to a Corona Homepage
X(7): A program for managing terminal windows. See also screen(1).
This sounds only a little more difficult that the recovery of drones ("UAVs" in today's parlance) during the early 70s. In this, drones would be captured in mid-air by a CH-3.
(My dad flew the CH-3 part of this set-up)
Not saying that there aren't new aspects, merely that the capability was present 30 years ago.
Landing on an aircraft carrier at night.
rj
Yep, they used to snatch the parachutes with a T-shaped bar trailing from a C-119...if you can do it with a 60,000-pound, 200 mph airplane, you can certainly do it with a helicopter.
rj
Catching it as it falls from orbit is a tried and tested technique too.
;o)
It was used to catch film from spy satellites back in the days when they still used wet film. Theres a description of the first satellites to use it (Corona) here, and the google cache for good measure.
So catching payloads in mid air has a longer history and more successful reoveries than a couple of mars landers. They did use military pilots though