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Man Stalks Ex-girlfriend With GPS
grouchomarxist writes "According to this article at CNN: Police arrested a man they said tracked his ex-girlfriend's whereabouts by attaching a global positioning system to her car. Police said Gabrielyan attached a cellular phone to the woman's car on August 16 with a motion switch that turned on when the car moved, transmitting a signal each minute to a satellite. Information was then sent to a Web site that allowed Gabrielyan to monitor the woman's location." A ruling last year stated that police need a warrant to track individuals in a similar fashion.
>The woman learned how Gabrielyan was following her when she discovered him under her car attempting to change the cell phone's battery, police said.
This is a perfect metaphor for the 21 century... Hyped futuristic capabilities with obvious and forgotten shortcomings. 12v line from the power system, anyone?
If you are going to be compulsively obsessed to the exclusion of all else, at least sweat the details.
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That depends. Do you own your child's car?
Yes? Nuf sed.
The article also mentions that the data is sent over a cellular telephone (changing the batter of which is apparently how the guy was found out).
So this must mean that the media thinks that cellular phones communicate with satellites. One wonders what they think of all those towers that have been going up for decades...
Dozens? After about the first six she should have gotten a restraining order.
Would it even depend if you owned the car. If your the childs gaurdian and the child is a minor....
If you can be held responcible for crimes they comit in some jurisdictions, such as vandelism, I would imagine you should be able to install a tracking device....
I'm sure the ACLU has problems with this, but don't they always.
500 dollar reward for tip(s) leading to the arrest of the person(s) who stole my sig.
It certainly isn't cost or difficulty.
it might be need...
...is so important. There are LEGITIMATE REASONS to not want to have a tracking device in your car, not just tinfoil hat paranoia. Sure there may be "privacy protections" but keep in mind that a company's privacy is only as strong as the minimum wage employee who's bribed $100 to let a stalker have some info.
Every time I read one of these stories of a guy wigging out because his girlfriend dumped him, I always think, "Hey, Chief, do ya think she was on to something?" I mean, girl dumps boy. Boy stalks her using GPS. Maybe she was onto something in dumping him?
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Instead he get's caught trying to change a battery... Stupid.
He's not a very good stalker if he was under her car changing the battery to the cell-phone!
I mean, he could of spent a little time and hooked it up to the car battery (it's possible) and on TOP of that, he could have used a phone that auto-accepts incoming calls when a hands-free headset is used, and just short the HF plug-in spot to make the phone think one is plugged in.. and
whalla, you have a tracker/voice-listener thingy-ma-jigger!
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This got me wondering, though. What if, for example, I was to do something like this to my wife's car? I own the car, right? So I should be able to modify it (within safety concerns of course) how I see fit.
Not that I'm saying I'd stalk my own wife, or anything. I'm just wondering what makes stalking one's girlfriend fundamentally different than stalking, say, one's wife.
I don't know if you should ever think that your parenting skills are so great that there is no way that your child would do something that you wouldn't approve of, something that they would lie about.
Just because they can drive doesn't mean they still aren't children, in some ways. Sometimes they will do things that are wrong, or that you as a parent do not approve of. And what's worse, you catching them doing it the first time or them doing it and thinking they can get away with it? You might find out you might not, they might only do something like that once or they might starting doing it over and over again. I'd rather nip it in the bud. Coming up in the generation that didn't have cell phones as a minor I think they are a great way to keep tabs on your child. No more of the excuses that my friends uses, "I couldn't find a payphone", "I didn't have change" etc. If your not planning on keeping your child lock in the room until they are 18 you'll have to let them go out on there own sooner or later, if nothing less than to see if they can handle flying on their own, and as a parent your going to still have to make sure they are acting in the manor that you want them to act in.
I knew parents that went through their child's stuff, as a child I thought it was wrong. I don't know if my parents did because I didn't have things that my parents thought were wrong (drugs etc) to get busted on. I kind of hope they did in retrospect, and I will probably do it to mine.
I don't want to be like those parents who say "oh my child is so great, he never lies to me" or think that I'm a great parent and I raised my child to never do anything wrong, he out with his friends I can relax he would never do anything wrong, not my little angle. You have to keep tabs on your child while letting them go off on there own it's part of letting them grow up. I don't think that's lazy, I thinks that's being very active as a parent.
500 dollar reward for tip(s) leading to the arrest of the person(s) who stole my sig.
They also arrest and execute criminals.
No civilized governments do that. Civilized governments arrest and prosecute criminals. Then according to what fits the bill best, they fine, jail or give them proper psychological treatment.
Do you live in some barbaric third world country where torture and imprisonment without fair trials are still part of the legal system too?
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Now think of the capabilities these technologies gave the Nazi propagandists of the 1930s and 1940s.
There's a dark side to every new technology. For a small class of people, technological advances will always represent only fantastic new ways to wage war, or to harrass and murder their fellow man.I've known people who were raised essentially the same was as I mentioned above. His parents did not trust him one single bit, and he grew up to be a socially insecure irresponsible, immature idiot. Really. Sheltering your kids like that, showing that you don't have any trust in them, does not make them more mature, just makes them sure that everything they do wrong will be criticized, so they never do anything. Have you never made a mistake?
Anyway, if you build up a trusting relationship with your child, but remain reasonably aware of what they do, and let them know that if you ever feel that they have lied to you, and you know they have, that your relationship will go downhill. Hopefully you've also raised your kids well enough that they would care if you no longer cared about them or loved them. The spectre of your unlove should keep them in line, while still allowing them to become responsible and mature, and productive.
At least they won't live in fear of you, and instead will trust you, but be fearful of the repercussions of breaking that trust.
She didnt say she didn't have a boyfriend, she said she wanted to know where you could get one that would care where she was. Clearly she has a boyfriend whose trust in her she interprets as indifference.
Too bad.
No. Your point being?
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Restraining order is just a piece of paper. When the chips are down, a piece of paper won't stop a determined and obsessive stalker. Glock 26 works better as a deterrent.
Here's a hint: next time a guy takes the time to get to know you and is actually a nice guy, don't brush him off with the 'I see you as a friend' routine while you fall in love with the first unemployed alcoholic that crosses your path.
Yes, yes, and yes, on and after the year 2005. In all phones sold in the U.S. next year and ever after, all units will be mandated by federal law to have a GPS component.
Yep, they will be used by law enforcement. Yes, they will be hacked by psychos, hackers, and cults to track people they don't like.
Nope, you don't get a choice to opt out. Welcome to the Brave New World. No doubt it'll make us safer from terrorists.
We're okay with cameras tracking our every move, with tracking devices on our kids, on mandatory drug tests for the rest of our lives. Soon new cars will be mandated to carry GPS snitch boxes, no doubt.
This has been an incremental revolution. We are now entering the ultimate fascism. in any sense of the word. The key to a good fascist state is the willing, even enthusiastic, support of its citizens. Failing that, it helps if the nation is ignorant of its own ideals and history.
If you've fone nothing wrong, I'm sure it'll all be okay. Don't worry.
If you don't have damages, why would you complain? Why would it make the news?
The FBI was tracking MLK and even harrassing him. What about that?
What am I afraid of? At the worst, political blackmail on a large scale.
Everyone has somthing to hide. Imagine a scenario where those who go against the powers that be will be outed and exposed, just like in the Soviet Union. Everyone had a skeleton in their closet. In the USSR, it was only outed if you did the politically wrong thing. Milan Kundera's "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" has a nice description of this on a personal level near the end. It only has to happen if a person is likely to come into a position of power. Everyone else's files are just "insurance."
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An eye for a fucking eye.
"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." --Ghandi
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"Yeah well there's a lot of stuff that should be, but isn't"
It seems your meds must need re-filling. I have no clue what you're raving on about. You seem to have an awful lot of pent up rage, though. Could I have pushed some buttons with the 'insane women want to be abused' comment?
I've been modded +5, and many people agree with me. If I were you, I'd take a walk and think things through.
(PS: I still don't see the link between posting as a 'true AC' and uttering the miserable truth about North American women.)