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Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Impressions
Tim Butler writes "1UP.com has posted impressions of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children from the premiere screening at the Venice Film Festival. The article also reveals that the film won't be ready until next spring -- but may clock in at more than an hour and a half in running time (is a big screen release a possibility now?)."
I'm just hoping they did a better job on this one then on the last FF movie. The last one looked gorgeous, but the plot was almost non-existent. It was as if they had spent every ounce of effort producing the visuals, and someone had forgotten to bother with a script. I loved FF:VII as a game, and I'm holding out hope that the movie will live up to the name this time. Of course, I'm also hoping for a direct to DVD release since I refuse to go to a theatre any more.
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NSFWI have no doubt that there will be showings on big screens across the country when this thing comes out. However, I sincerely doubt that a Great company would put themselves through anything even resembling the fiasco of Spirits Within on their second release. Lets hold out hope for the next one, and enjoy this one as it comes!
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I'm in agreement with this article that computer-generated human faces still look creepy. I can't quite place what it is, but computer generated skin (even when done well as it was with Gollum from the LOTR movies) doesn't look right.
Maybe it's that the faces look somehow too regular; maybe it's that they look somehow luminescent.
It's even evident in the little thumnail image at the top of the article.
But they are right about synthetic humans looking creepier and creepier as they get more accurate. Look at the 4th picture down. Quite nightmarish. Even creepier than that last final fantasy movie.
If you buy 3 large popcorns, 1 small no-ice Dr Pepper, 1 box of Jr Mints, then enter the hidden theater 5 spaces down and 2 spaces to the left of the ticket booth, you can see the version with Aeris resurrected!
http://www.1up.com/do/slideshow?cId=3133458
aren't THOSE the screenshots? looks like you were referencing pictures of the festival itself...
I'm calling it here. They'll include it for a discount when you buy the game.
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if the film "isn't ready"?
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Another FF movie? Won't somebody please think of the (advent) Children????
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ff:VII small movie
It's a small movie, and jap in background, but still cool.
How about a preview instead?
.torrent file of a fansubbed version of a preview of the movie...
Head over to http://anime-kraze.org/ and go to their releases page...
http://anime-kraze.org/index.php?page=releases
Then scroll down to find this link this link here which points to a
I should point out, that Nintendo pulled the plug at the last minute on releasing the original Final Fantasy 2 on the NES here in the states, after hyping it up in Nintendo Power the month before (and a juicy contest that nobody won). What was released here as Final Fantasy 2 was actually Final Fantasy 4, in no small way because Nintendo didn't believe the series would amount to anything in the US.
And then, of course, the Final Fantasy for the SNES made the platform in Japan, at a time when the Mega Drive (Genesis) was swimming in great RPG's... but Nintendo's fiasco with the Sony-made Nintendo Playstation (SNES CD) upon which Square developed a fully realized "greatest game ever..." the Secret of Mana, then had to chop it to little bits to make it fit on a cartridge when the SNES CD was not released, soured the relationship on Square's side. Then Square deciding to make the next Final Fantasy game on, you guessed it, the Sony Playstation was taken as a personal slap in the face by Nintendo's president Hiroshi Yamauchi, which not only burned the bridge between them but salted the ground for many years.
Of course, the SNES CD couldn't be released as it was originally invisioned... In a momentary and tremendous lapse of judgement, the Nintendo lawyers signed to Sony the profits for any CD games sold, while they kept the profits on any Cartridge games sold. Nintendo asked for a redrawing of the iron-clad contract, Sony refused, and while Nintendo was contractually obligated to approve of Sony's release, they found a sneaky loophole and drew up a contract with (I believe) Philips to make a CDI compatible SNES CD, which they would throw their marketing muscle behind. Philips, of course, was an earlier partner which Nintendo had scorned in favor of Sony. Anyway, it was a big ugly mess.
I won't even get into how Square and Nintendo finally made up.
In other words, while Nintendo was not responsible for creating the Final Fantasy series, they do have a sorded past with the series.
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Yeah, I'm going to have to agree. One of the (many) reasons FF6 is the best of the series is the strength of its characters. Celes, Locke, Terra, Sabin, Shadow, and Kefka -- just to name a few...
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This is called FF7 because it is a direct sequel to FF7. This is much the same as FFX-2, which recently came out, and was a sequel to Final Fantasy X. As every Final Fantasy has a different universe and storyline, marketing a release as FF7: Advent Children or FFX-2 denotes that these are direct sequels to games with most of the same characters, taking place in the same universe, and picking up where the storyline of the original games left off. Calling the movie simply "Final Fantasy: Advent Children" would be similar to calling it "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within." People would expect certain Final Fantasy aspects, but they would not expect a sequel to an already existing Final Fantasy. The VII serves to clarify, not confuse.
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The problem with FFTSW was not that it wasn't established, it was that it was a sci-fi futuristic "alien menace" type movie rather than a Fantasy type one. Your typical FF tends to have elements such as:
- A mix of high/low technology. For some reason swords tend to go alongside nuclear reactors.
- Magic. Not special superhuman ability, but magic. Summons are a big thing too in latter FFs.
- Main characters generally seem to have some form of identity crisis and go off at some point.
Of course, there are many others. But really FFTSW was an animated sci-fi movie with some FF named characters, guards that looked Shinra-like, and a FF tag. If you changed the guards, the title, and perhaps renamed Cid nobody would likely associate with the FF game series.As a happy fan of FF games since the original (US) SNES release... I've a strong attachment to them and squaresoft (barring FFX2 which was a fanboy tribute).
This might seem an obvious question, but...
Since when was it a good idea to let the fans write the plot? What should it matter how the fans thought FFVII should have ended? Movies or games produced by focus group rarely have any redeeming features. One of the things I respect about Square is their willingness to make unpopular decisions with regards to the Final Fantasy franchise. Pretty much every game is iconoclastic and messes around with the establishe formula, using sending the fanboys who wanted a clone of the previous game into hysterical fits. The battle system changes pretty much every game, often in completely unexpected ways (witness the sphere-grid in FFX) while the game-world usually has at least one unique factor that makes you go "what the fuck". I'd say that the only time Square *didn't* do this with a recent game (FFIX), they delivered the most disappointing product.
To sum up, I don't want the content of my Final Fantasy games/movies dictated by the turgid outpourings of the fanfic authors. Advent Children may turn out to be just a blatant cash-in, but past experience leads me to suspect it will be something a bit riskier.
It would have been awesome to just reshoot the orginal Final Fantasy VII, but along with the fact it would be hard cutting the 40 hr long story down to 2 hours, most movie goers wouldn't believe Final Fantasy VII's wild, science fiction plot. Final Fantasy VII would have us believe that:
These are just some of the points that make the plot of Final Fantasy VII, no matter how intriguing, too unrealistic for people to take seriously.
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