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A GMail-based blog With 1000 MB of entries
Jean-Luc R. writes "Via mediaTIC blog. Gallina is a GMail blog tool created by Jonathan Hernandez that uses GMail messages as "entries" (so 1000 MB of entries!!), replies to conversations are the "entry comments", uses Libgmailer (gmail-lite project) to connect to GMail. It uses XML/XSLT and by the way it's a GPL software.
You can download it there.
See the Gallina Demo Blog as for an example."
people are making so much use of gmail for different things
i wonder when ill be able to run off a remote OS installed on a gmail account
Google was pissed at third-party tools which check emails. Now I wonder what Google is going to think of a program or script which uses the Gmail email directory as a sort of web-hosting deal. I'm not too optimistic about Google's response. :-(
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from the just because you can doesn't mean you're allowed dept. http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/terms_of_use.ht ml
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How are they getting past the new gmail authentication?
Many of Google's other functions, like the search, they openly published interfaces to via web services and such. They explicitly disallow in the GMail TOS using web-fetching "screen scrapers" like this thing uses, but I'd imagine their main objection would be not so much the loss of control as that they don't want to be locked into a specific set of HTML-- if they significantly change their page layouts then any program which fetches and reprocesses GMail web pages will break.
But this bloggy thing is a very cool feature and Google might well publish a public web-services interface to GMail as well to allow things like this to happen before the end.
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Can I now mount my blog using gmailfs?
;-D)but a blog????
Seriously, this is getting silly. It's supposed to be an email system and it's going to be financed by google targeting ads specificly to their users (based on their emails, but who cares about privacy anyway?), so I don't think google will let these things survive.
Now I could understand if someone developed a technique that allowed for bigger attachments (pr0n anyone?
What, Google create an free, optional service that you aren't personally interested in? How dare they?
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Gmail is invitation only because it is in beta and they want to scale up their size slowly. When it is completed, it will be open to everyone. And good luck not using Google; a lot of other search engines use Google indirectly.
That's because Gmail is currently in BETA. They want to test it with a lot of accounts, but they still want to control the number of accounts so their system doesn't get overloaded before it's ready.
Having an invitation system seems a good way of getting a good number of test accounts.
I suggest you read the FAQ as it talks about this and POP access etc.
From what I remember they are working on allowing you to access it all via POP. It's BETA, what do you expect? You can't expect them to give an account to everyone who wants one, i think a lot of what they're doing is trying to slowly roll it out so they can test scaling and such while they do the testing of the interface and stuff. by slowly rolling it out they get an idea of just how the 1000 megabytes of space grow from user to user and can try to balance things better.
As mentioned already it seems they do it to create a bit of hype. Is the hype all it's cracked up to be? Eh, not really but it DOES work really well and I use gmail over yahoo now for my email, it also makes organizing my mail a hell of a lot easier in terms of mailing lists and such (that's really all i use it for, all my normal mail goes through my websites email addresses).
You just need to calm down and chill, if you want a gmail account ask and i'll gladly give you one of my invitations.
Kyle
http://www.unlogikal.net/
I'm a bit concerned that everyone seems to want to find a way to fill up their Gigabyte on Gmail. If storage becomes the main feature of Gmail, people will eventually open up 500 accounts and built a Gmail array for their file storage. This will force Google to lock down their application, and those of us using it for EMAIL will suffer.
I thought Google already provided a free blogging service?
But even google with all its servers have limitations. Would love to see gmail grow in kind of uses it could have, but simplicity and speed are some of its strengths that it could lose if it is abused.
1000MB may sound like a lot but at current hard drive pricing that is only about a half dollar if you buy a 100GB drive. Why do people go to so much trouble to redirect GMail for other uses? If people do things that make their advertising less valuable then they will strike hard on everybody and that only hurts us normal users if they make it harder to login or use as an email service.
Anyone who needs a gig of space to write down what is on his mind has a bigger problem than finding space online.
MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. - September 6, 2004 - Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) announced today that they are discontinuing the popular beta trial of their "Gmail" personal e-mail service. "When we realized that Slashdot user thammond had pledged not to use the service, we decided there was no point in continuing," said Larry Page, Co-Founder & President, Products. While the service had appeared to be gaining momentum as an alternative to other free e-mail services, thammond's pledge, announced today on the popular technology news site Slashdot, made it clear to company management that there was no future in the offering. Existing users of the service will be notified early this week and Google assured concerned shareholders that "future innovations will be submitted to thammond for approval prior to release in the future."
So now I have 1gb of online, searchable mp3's.
Email. Blogs. Mountable drives. And all built on GMail. I'd be quite concerned about becoming too dependent on the good graces of a third party for maintaining my data. I recall the number of people who got caught flat-footed when free email services and photo hosting went belly-up with little or no notice. Not to mention putting potentially sensitive material in a convenient place for hackers to target, or law enforcement or aggrieved spouses to subpoena.
Is that they force us to look at Gmail in many different ways beyond the "Jesus Christ, look at all that space" factor.
When I started using Gmail I really liked the threaded messages feature and the search engine. Having to use labels instead of folders was (and still is) annoying, but I still place more value in the threading of the messages so all is well.
Some of my friends put more value in the fact that they can pretty much forget about their mailboxes getting too big and their PC choking on it. The mailbox here can be almost a gig and all your PC sees is just a web page.
Some friends also discovered that it is a great way to store memos, since is is very easy to pull them back between the labels and the search engine. I liked the idea so much that I sent myself every shareware license and CD key I have as separate emails so I can easily pull them.
The blog thing will probably break by the time it hits production, but it tells us (and Google too) that Gmail is so versatile that you can do all these crazy things with it.
Now Google can look at it and go uhm, maybe this is faster than whatever it is we are doing to store Blogger entries, and it also takes care of the post comments! And since you are already giving people a Gig of space, you can in theory claim that your *hosted* Blogger option is now free and allows you to share your 1GB of Gmail space. Then later plug the whole thing into an Orkut that doesn't suck and also into Google Groups.
Pedro
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The Insomniac Coder
Stop doing shit like this. Yeah, it's "fun", yeah it's "cool", but it's gonna piss Google off so much that they'll just put more and more limits on the service which piss off the majority to stop the minority.
I don't know about you, but I want to READ MY FUCKING EMAIL with GMail, not use it as some file storage solution, file system, blog client and kitchen sink. Leave it be. Google is generous, they've released APIs and other fun shit to do with their service, and they've been nice enough to let people try their beta service. If I lose that service because morons like fucking with it to store their porn, I will be MAJORLY pissed off.
Don't be so fucking selfish and stick to the friggin' ToS already.
By summer it was all gone...now shesmovedon. --
Seriously, it took me 5 min after I read about gmail to get an account. Have you no friends? There are _millions_ of invites out there.
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
Oh, sure, let's use a blogging script which uses a webmail service as its database. It can fetch data from this service by internally connecting to the web site, parsing the HTML, and pulling out the relevant data.
Uh.
Seriously, people, install a fucking SQL server. Not only is this going to be extremely extremely inefficient for you, but you are basically taking a nice service provided to you free by a nice company and exploiting the hell out of it. I am quite certain that if this thing gets a lot of use, Google will implement measures to break it. And I'm guessing Slashdot will whine when that happens, and I will be disgusted.
Really... When your girlfriend offers you a blow job do you forcefully ram your dick down her throat until she vomits? Why on Earth would you do this to Google?
Google will need to start doing this - just stating an abuse policy is not good enough, they will need to start detecting abuse and counteracting, otherwise they will go broke trying to buy enough drives to make the exploiters happy.