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New Overtime Rules Have Short Shelf Life

rwiedower writes "So the House just voted to scrap the new overtime rules that went into effect August 23. The vote was 223-193. Were the new rules designed to shaft IT workers from getting overtime? Or were they merely designed to streamline outdated rules?"

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  1. Re:It's All A Mystery... by EtherMonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Salaried means that you get paid the same fixed ammount no matter how much you work, whether it be 10 hours a week or 100. Of course what ends up happening is that they shovel so much work on you to do that you end up having to work more than 40 hours a week to do what is expected of you, otherwise you get fired.

    No, that is not necessarily true. Whether you are exempt from overtime really depends on how much self-determinism and supervision goes with your job. If get to select your own assignments and deadlines, are essentially allowed to work on your own with little supervision, do not have to meet any production quotas or work on a rigid schedule, then you are probably exempt from overtime.

    However, if your supervisor assigns you projects with deadlines, or requires to you record your time and can penalize you for failing to meet a minimum quota, or you are required to be "at work" according to a fixed schedule, then you are probably NOT exempt from overtime.

    I suggest you read Overtime Pay Requirements of the FLSA before wrongfully concluding whether you are exempt or not.
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  2. Regular hours would still be paid by Scud · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out this site for the actual rules:

    http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairp ay /main.htm

    And the toll-free number: 1-866-4USWAGE

    Looking at this quote (taken from the fairpay site) it appears that we will only be out the half part of the time-and-a-half. Nowhere does it say that you would not get the straight time portion for the hours that you worked.

    The FLSA requires that most employees in the United States be paid at least the federal minimum wage for all hours worked and overtime pay at time and one-half the regular rate of pay for all hours worked over 40 hours in a workweek

    I checked with my ex-wife, and she agrees that this is the correct interpretation of the rules. Whether the DOL agrees or not is a different thing...

    For me it's academic, so far I have managed to maintain my goal of zero hours of OT for the year :)

    John

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  3. Got to collect the kids at school .. by klang · · Score: 4, Informative

    is maybe the only excuse posible to use in order to avoid working extra hours ..

    I live and work in Denmark and our working conditions are a bit different from the American.

    From the first year I worked (as a programmer) I've had 5 weeks vacation every year. With 3 days extra off to "take care of the kids". The last part has been changed so people without kids can have days off as well .. and the number of days have gone up to 5.

    I do not get paid for doing extra hours, unless I have a specific agreement (from time to time) with the company. Extra hours, "within reason" are included in my salary. So, all I have to do is having an excuse to go home at a reasonable hour every day, thus avoiding extra hours. (dificult at times but it works)

    Fair?

    Well, the company pays my IBM T30 (a few years old now), my DSL line, my land line, and my mobile phone (usage on all included).

    Dental and Health is taken care of by the State and my overall taxes last year was 45%.

    I am not a member of the union, but benefit from the deals they strike anyway. If the company piss on me, I have to let them, unless I become a member and have the union piss back..

    Something rotten in the State of Denmark?

    not really.. :-)