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Matching AirPort Express to Third Party Routers
An anonymous reader submits "After purchasing AirPort Express yesterday, I found out that my existing Netgear router didn't work with it in WDS mode. After a lot of searching, I found scattered bits of information about what routers worked and which ones didn't. I decided to start a site that hopefully will become a definitive list of routers that work with AirPort Express. It's not big yet, which is why I am submitting this here. If you have attempted successfully or unsuccessfully to set up AirPort Express in WDS mode with a non-Apple router, please let me know so that future users can find the information more readily."
This isn't even the begining of a definitive list, and yet the author already feels warranted in displaying adverstising.
Sure, make me feel guilty about not remembering my seldom-used login/password until *after* I post the story ;)
Who said I wanted to be anonymous? I'm just lazy, that's all.
I'm running IE6SP2 on a Dell Latitude CPi with an 800 by 600 screen, you insensitive Airport-owning clod!
Seriously, there's text scattered all over the place, I can't read the thing. I'm running into many sites that think I don't exist nowadays, it seems.
How many offtopic mods will I get for commenting on the site that is the point of the submission?
The latest Slashdot meme.
Your name is jonjohnson? Do you live in Visconson? Do you verk in the lumber mill there?
I don't know what it is, but it's white and round. Seems to work well.
The buffalo line of routers would probably work with it since they support the WDS mode but I don't have one so I can't tell you definitively.
Here's a much more detailed O'Reilly article (err... an O'Reilly link to other articles) concerning Airport Express compatibility.
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/5024
Follow this link for the full analysis.
Like Teddy with an elephant gun.
'Course, the mods aren't really interested in what I have to say because I was modded off-topic for this; in fact:
I'm not sure how that breaks down now that Slashcode has moved away from absolutes; I believe it's something like 2 Informative, 3 Overrated, and 5 Offtopic, but that seems like a ton of moderating to my stupid little post. I can't see any other way to break it down, though, that would arrive at those percentages...
No offense intended; I know I'm easy to find as well.
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
This setup has worked for me:
- Netgear WGT624 and Airport Express w/same name,
- Latest update for Netgear firmware (V4.1.11_1.0.1 worked for me)
- *might* need to set channel to something other than 11. I found problems when working on 11, so I switched it, and it's been fine since.
- Also, I found that making sure I had the Airport Card Update 2004-08-31 worked wonders as far as sound quality went...it was choppy before the update, and fine afterwards.
... the mods aren't really interested in what I have to say because I was modded off-topic ...
/.'s labels do not provide good coverage for all situations. If there had been a "-1, posting someone's home address to slashdot" you probably would have gotten a bunch of those instead of the "offtopic" and "overrated" labels. Seriously, was the guy's home address really necessary, was simply pointing out that the domain registration identified the poster insufficient? My first reaction was "that's quite rude" so I don't blame the mods.
Keep in mind that
I don't know if the Airport Express would need something different than the Airport Extreme card.
The AE works in WDS mode with the 2Wire HomePortal HW1000. This is a wireless router / ADSL modem distributed with SBC Southwestern Bell's Expert Plus DSL package.
wow, i used to live up the street from him
it's a small world after all...
All the power to making your list of compatible hardware, but is it all that surprising that you Apple product doesn't play well with others? Back home my dad has an old airport, snow or graphite, and while his Mac laptop and now desktop always get a full strength signal, my desktop (across the hall), his tablet PC, and my friends' laptops usually get signals that are slow or drop often. Now, thats not the same thing thats going on in this instance, but i think its indicative of apple wifi in particular, and apple products in general.
That's a pretty rude thing to do to someone without provocation, even if they are a Real Basic developer.
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
...but they are all connected to an AirportExtreme.
Seriously, these are about the coolest invention ever. I've gon one on the 2nd, and 3rd floor of my house, and another on the patio streaming to the stereo out there. The range is outstanding, and the ability to stream music, and plop a printer almost anywhere make these little buggers WELL worth the $120.
I didn't answer your question....but hope others do.
My
Netgear is notorious for not interoperating with other WiFi vendors. If I recall, they're not even allowed to use the WiFi logo because they're not compliant.
Someone is WRONG on the Internet!
considering the apple airport express website *specifically* says "AirPort Express can extend the range only of an AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express wireless network." its really not surprising it didnt like your netgear router
ok so maybe you want it to work anyway. if you had read this previous slashdot article you would have had some idea why - from the article
"Sure, Apple says the Express will only do bridging with AirPort Base Stations. That's because WDS is not a standardized part of the 802.11g spec. " (not to mention as posted somewhere in this discussion netgear has some spec-meeting issues)
never the less, it seems it is possible (again from the article)
"We can report that it will work with the Linksys WRT54G 802.11g router. The procedure for getting it working involves using the open source firmware and is fairly straightforward. But it's not for the faint of heart: keep in mind that if you do update using the open source firmware, you will find your router outside the tender embrace of Linksys customer support."
i do think its a good idea to have a list of (ideally) cheaper routers that work with AE - but I still think ill save up for a perdy apple base station instead.
PS - again, from the ars article, you should note that there are some security issues
"One note: when using the AirPort Express as a WDS, you are limited to either using 128-bit WEP or turning off security altogether. This was not mentioned on the AirPort Express pages on apple.com, although it is addressed in the manual. WPA is generally not supported over bridged connections on WiFi products due to the fact that WPA encrypts the MAC addresses which WDS relies on for communication. Keep this limitation in mind when using the Express as a bridge."
So while you can use the AE for many things, you cannot use it to extend the network.
Agent OJ, I have the same setup (Netgear WGT624 router and neighbor has Airport Express), but we can't get them to work. When connecting your Netgear router and your Airport Express, which is your bridge and which is your access point? When you say they should have "same name", do you mean the same SSID and channel #?
:-)
From what I've read, the Airport Express requires WDS (Wireless Distribution System), but the Netgear WGT624 does not support WDS. A firmware upgrade scheduled for November will supposedly add WDS support. Since the Netgear router (apparently) does not support WDS, did you have to disable WDS on your Airport Express?
Did you have to make any other Netgear router changes, such as changing the "WAM Setup"? Any other tips?
thanks!
chris
cpeterso
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