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Review of Yoper Linux v2.1

Posted by timothy on from the what-you-want-it-to-be dept.

Anonymous Coward writes "An interesting review of Yoper Linux has just been posted posted at linuxforums.org. Yoper Linux really does look like it could be the first serious competition Gentoo has had in a long time."

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  1. Competion for what? by I_Love_Pocky! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The first serious competion for what? The coolest new distro? That statement seems to imply that Gentoo is clearly the best around right now. I really like Gentoo, but I don't think I could dismiss all the other distros that easily.

    1. Re:Competion for what? by I_Love_Pocky! · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're clearly stupid then.

      Well I admit that freely, but how does that answer my question?

    2. Re:Competion for what? by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think they were referring to Gentoo's "title" of being the fastest running distribution. Gentoo is a pure and simple pain in the ass to install and requires you to become very well versed in the ways and workings of linux. If Yoper can compare in running speed to Gentoo and also include a quick and easy setup then it would indeed be competition, but I'm sure neither of us are too fuzzy of the rules of this "competition."

      If Yoper can run as fast as Gentoo, with a fraction of the setup time, and be just as stable, Yoper will be indeed be the Windows-replacer I suggest for our future Installfests on campus. We've been installing Mandrake or Fedora Core 2 and were toying with the idea of getting a few dozen lab computers setup with distcc to make Gentoo installs feasible. Yoper would definitely save us the effort.

      I'll still want to see benchmarks for game performance though. This could be my Doom 3 Linux distro of choice as well.

      On a different track of thought, perhaps someone in the Gentoo camp will work on making some of Yoper's features available in one of the install stages. It's won't be blatant rip-off, it'll be the bazaar in action.

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  2. Oooo! Talk about stuff no one cares about by Ridgelift · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yoper Linux really does look like it could be the first serious competition Gentoo has had in a long time.

    In other obscure news about competition that no one cares about, Bob's Fatburger is launching a new ham & swiss sandwich that may prove to be stiff competition against Arby's in the war of the cold cut sandwich arena.

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  3. Re:Too many Distros by pnatural · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We don't need 100 distros. Damn, we don't even need 10.

    Yes, we do need them.

    The thing you're missing is (as Agent Smith would say) purpose. Many of these distros exist purely because they meet a specific purpose. For example, there are distros used for desktop computers, distros for firewalls, distros for embedded devices, distros for clustering, distros for servers, etc.

    Put another way: choice is good!

    Now, had you said "we don't need 100's of desktop distros" I might have agreed.

  4. Re:eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    yo.per - n. One who yopes. See "yope" yope - v. slang term from 1980's era to describe slow communication with poor diction. Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /usr/local/apache/vhosts/linuxforums.org/www/forum /db/mysql4.php on line 49

  5. competition by nocomment · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yoper Linux really does look like it could be the first serious competition Gentoo has had in a long time.


    uhhhh have you heard of Red Hat, Mandrake, Suse, Debian, Turbo, etc...? First real competition...phht! Gimme a break.

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  6. .torrent for latest version by chickenmonger · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://apt.yoper.com/torrent/yoper.torrent

    Help save their gracious FTP mirrors.

  7. Not too intimidating... by mod_parent_down · · Score: 5, Funny
    After downloading the single ISO and burning it, I booted into a BASH prompt. This might sound intimidating to those newer to Linux... A little fiddling reviled that the prompt had a few basic commands such as mount and access to Vim.

    Oh yeah. If you're intimidated by a Bash prompt, you're gonna LOVE vim.

    Ok, Lemme just type--

    BEEP!

    What the...

    BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!

    Ah! I just want to edit the--

    BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!

    AHHHHHHHHH!!!!

  8. Re:That's great by el-spectre · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm wondering myself why you'd edit yum.conf ... I'd just get the updated one from the Fedora Faq.

    We're still getting there. Right now, linux DOES compete with windows, in the 'good with computers' or better class of folks. 5 years ago you had to be much more advanced. Over time, the OS is getting better, but folks (especially linux savvy folks such as yourself) don't help things any by standing around and whining that it's not perfect RIGHT NOW.

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  9. Re:not gpl compliant by CoolMoDee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that is gpl compliant. It just dosn't contain 100% "free software"

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  10. Re:Yoper suspicious by pnot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I looked into it when it made its debut a couple of years back. Several things made me uneasy. IIRC:

    1. It seemed to launch with huge fanfare and hype, and there was a bit of a backlash when it turned out to be just another "generic distro plus knoppix hardware detection" deal.

    2. Source wasn't originally available, so it was infringing on the GPL.

    3. They were very reticent about acknowledging the work they'd built on, and responded quite violently to any criticism.

    I had a poke about their website recently, the things that now make me uneasy are:

    1. Package availability -- according to this declaration, you can only install Yoper-packaged RPMs ("The ones for other distros have to probably be installed with rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps and might break apt.").

    2. Lack of decent documentation -- lots of important information seems to be squirreled away in the forums.

    3. Amateurish website ("Yoper is one of the most standardised Linuxes that you will find and hardware performancetries to be better better than that of any commercial OS." -- http://www.yoper.com/about.html )

    3. Responses to criticism still seem pretty belligerent, not to mention self-contradictory. A forum post from March 2003 says:

    We are not a one man distro. Currently we have hundreds of users and several people on the development team and also a new commercial team that does the commercial side here in NZ. ( original post )

    Then, in October 2003:

    Some of you compile quite a few packages, which is great!!!! The base Yoper is done by ONE person and this person (ME) has a distro which is now fairly well known even though it is only version 1. Just think of this. Yoper is a one man distro and so many have an opinion on it. ( original post )

    So, is it a one-man distro or not?

    Still, it seems they're no longer trying to flog it for 99 USD, which makes me think a little more kindly of it :-).

  11. Does this person know how to use Gentoo? by gipsy+boy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The boot time is a tricky one to measure, but if you clock the time taken to reach a login prompt, Gentoo wins but not buy much, about a 7 second difference in my test. But once you go to starting X, Yoper leaps ahead and can have me browsing the web, editing an office doc, and chatting in the IRC before Gentoo got me into a GUI."

    I'm not sure what this person is talking about here. Is he talking about KDE again? Well, I use fluxbox and it takes under 2 seconds to get into my X system after typing "xinit". (most of which goes to driving my nVidia card)

    I run Gentoo and I don't see where the 'competition' lies, exactly.. I'm sure you can make Gentoo's KDE as 'fast' as Yope's since it can do all those things Yope does with gcc, when you emerge the KDE package. I feel this article misinformed some people really, this distro looks pretty weak in my opinion.