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Firefox Browser On An Upward Trend
carbolic writes "The Firefox browser is ramping up as fast as Internet Explorer is ramping down. According to these stats posted from the Engadget logfiles, IE has dropped to 57% of all browsers used to visit the site, while Firefox is up to an amazing 18%! The Engadget stats reflect an early-adopter consumer crowd and backing those up, this chart from w3schools shows the same trend. I guess CERT's recommendation and a mature product are finally paying off for the Mozilla project. Less than 2 years ago, IE had a 95% lock on the market. Anyone else see a trend here?"
It's just a pity that 1.0PR (as announced yesterday) doesn't seem to like all the add-ons and themes it liked so much until 0.9
Trolling using another account since 2005.
Most 0.9+ plugins should work with 1.0PR. Go to about:config, locate extensions.disabledObsolete and change its value to false . Worked for me, YMMV. Good luck.
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It is snazzy amd sexy, and has a cute fox
... it's a red panda: linky. Still, a very cool animal.
Actually, it's not even really a "fox"
The Engadget stats reflect an early-adopter consumer crowd and backing those up, this chart from w3schools shows the same trend
He never claimed that the stats were for the entire net or anything. -1 Redundant.
As others have been pointing out, it's the trend that is interesting, not the raw numbers. And when you see the same trend happening on a number of different sites - with very different starting proportions, and thus likely pretty different readership - then it seems fairly likely that the trend is real.
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I also run one site, but mine isn't geared towards techheads. (Blood conservation for hospital staff.) Here's this months stats so far:
MSIE 6.0: 86%
MSIE 5.5: 3%
MSIE 5.23: 1.2%
MSIE 5.01: 0.9%
MSIE 5.0: 1.8%
Netscape 7.2: 0.7%
Netscape 7.1: 0.7%
Mozilla: 2.5%
Opera: 2%
Unknown: 0.3%
Konqueror: 0.1%
(Missing: 0.8%)
I'm waiting for Mozilla to grow. Then again, my site still uses frames, so why am I complaining?
Sum of IE Dropped ~2% since previous months where it hovered around 94.7%+-0.3. Mozilla numbers remain unchanged from previous months; Opera took the space it seems. Oh well.
It's from the Renaming FAQ. Scroll down a little bit on this page.
"What's a Firefox?"
A "Firefox" is another name for the red panda.
A trend is not about absolute numbers.
Another site may have 90% Explorer and 4% firefox.
If last year the figures were 92% vs 2%, then the trend is the same as w3schools (where firefox usage jumped from 8% -> 18 %)
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How about Wikipedia: 80% IE, 20% Mozilla & company.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Even when Opera and Mozilla say they're reporting as IE, they include some Mozilla tags to seperate themselves. Try setting up a small webserver and observing this yourself with a few different browsers. Usually browser statistics like this don't let such hoo-ha fool them. And I doubt the user-agent tag is actually used to give different HTML in the overwhelming majority of web sites.
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IE: 84% and falling
Mozilla: 7% and rising
Safari: 1-2% and rising
Opera: 1-2% and holding steady
Netscape 4: below 1% and falling
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
They kept browser stats from March 2001 to June 2004. They removed the browser and OS stats in July 2004.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
As you can see, about 25% of people viewing Fark use Firefox/Mozilla, and 33% use a non-IE browser. I can tell you that just 3 months ago the total number of non-IE browers was around 20%. The numbers might actually be low, because Fark has a high number of people who read from work, where they're often forced to use IE.
In my opinion, FireFox has a "killer" feature in that it (so far) isn't really vulnerable to many exploits or malware. I call it a "killer" feature because users, regardless of skill level, will use FireFox over IE simply because of security, and you already see it happening.
"Less than 2 years ago, IE had a 95% lock on the market. Anyone else see a trend here?"
Okay, I realize it's considered Geek Chic to rip the methodology (or, more usually, the lack thereof) used by the "reporters" of these stories. But c'mon! My daughter, who's in 9th grade and not a particular fan of math, could see the holes in this one.
The link used in the sentence quoted above, showing 95% market share for IE, goes to onestat.com. If the reporter had taken the time to check their latest report, IE still has a 93.9% share of the market. It's right there in their press releases! How hard would it have been to look?
I love Firefox, and would love to see IE go away. But I'm getting real tired of having to apply my own personal lameness filter when it comes to determining what Slashdot stories actually have "stuff that matters".
#DeleteChrome
W3schools stats lump Mozilla/firefox/etc together in one group under "Mozilla".
And why would web developers use Mozilla instead of Firefox? I want something as bloat free as possible. Compared to Mozilla, IE is bloat free. Look at the feature list:
advanced e-mail and newsgroup client, IRC chat client, and HTML editing
That's why Firefox is nice. It's just a browser, thankfully.
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I am a SysAdmin for a company that provides listings for real estate web sites. Sadly we aren't fully w3c compliant, but we make sure all of our code renders properly in both Mozilla/FireFox and Internet Explorer.
Last week We had 12,156,966 hits to our sites, which is only the search related pages, not photos etc.. 11,689,635 (96.15%) were from Internet Explorer.
I'd wager to say we would see a much more diverse range of users than a site specifically designed for web designers. I hate to say it, but IE is still as much of a force in the market as it ever was.
chown -R us.
It DOES have auto Update.
The new Firefox v1.0PR has a green arrow under the minimise button that does it. Also, it pops up a message once in a while telling you about new updates.
Sometimes I wish I was a plumber, then I'd know how to deal with other people's shit.
On my site, which isn't a geek-oriented site and therefore more representative of the general population of the net, IE still accounts for over 95% of the browser market with no change at all in the last few months.
Trends require more than one anomalous reading.
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