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Firefox Browser On An Upward Trend

carbolic writes "The Firefox browser is ramping up as fast as Internet Explorer is ramping down. According to these stats posted from the Engadget logfiles, IE has dropped to 57% of all browsers used to visit the site, while Firefox is up to an amazing 18%! The Engadget stats reflect an early-adopter consumer crowd and backing those up, this chart from w3schools shows the same trend. I guess CERT's recommendation and a mature product are finally paying off for the Mozilla project. Less than 2 years ago, IE had a 95% lock on the market. Anyone else see a trend here?"

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  1. Workaround by Compact+Dick · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most 0.9+ plugins should work with 1.0PR. Go to about:config, locate extensions.disabledObsolete and change its value to false . Worked for me, YMMV. Good luck.

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  2. None techie site - more representative by barcodez · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here are some stats from a none techie site which gets a reasonable amount of traffic:
    MSIE 89.7%
    FireFox 3.1%
    Mozilla 2.2%
    Netscape 2.2%
    Opera 0.9%
    Safari 0.9%
    Unknown 0.4%
    Firebird 0%
    Konqueror 0%
    Others 0.1%
    Also more interestingly Firefox usage has for the last 4-5 months doubled month on month.
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  3. Re:I don't know about you by ack154 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is snazzy amd sexy, and has a cute fox

    Actually, it's not even really a "fox" ... it's a red panda: linky. Still, a very cool animal.

  4. Re:Botched statistic if I've ever seen it. by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the top:

    The Engadget stats reflect an early-adopter consumer crowd and backing those up, this chart from w3schools shows the same trend

    He never claimed that the stats were for the entire net or anything. -1 Redundant.

  5. Re:Hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I also run one site, but mine isn't geared towards techheads. (Blood conservation for hospital staff.) Here's this months stats so far:

    MSIE 6.0: 86%
    MSIE 5.5: 3%
    MSIE 5.23: 1.2%
    MSIE 5.01: 0.9%
    MSIE 5.0: 1.8%
    Netscape 7.2: 0.7%
    Netscape 7.1: 0.7%
    Mozilla: 2.5%
    Opera: 2%
    Unknown: 0.3%
    Konqueror: 0.1%
    (Missing: 0.8%)

    I'm waiting for Mozilla to grow. Then again, my site still uses frames, so why am I complaining?

    Sum of IE Dropped ~2% since previous months where it hovered around 94.7%+-0.3. Mozilla numbers remain unchanged from previous months; Opera took the space it seems. Oh well.

  6. Re:Firefox desserves this... by balster+neb · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I had mod points, i would have modded you down.

    Sure, its been a while since the mozilla browser has been in development, but note that a good part of that time was spent perfecting the Gecko rendering engine, and making the Mozilla Suite (browser, mail client, html editor etc).

    Firefox (initially Pheonix, then Firebird) has been in development only since last year (around May or June?). They basically started with the browser component of the Mozilla suite, and rewrote significant bits of the UI, and added plenty of new UI features (customizable toolbars, better bookmarks, better extension and theme management, etc.).

    So Firefox-the-browser (minus Gecko) is still a bit of a baby, and has only just reached 1.0PR. You cannot seriosly expect extensions to work across pre-release versions when they are still adding features (new RSS/Atom feature in bookmarks, new find toolbar etc, all in this release) and refining the browser!

    The browser is still in development and gaining new features, and I don't mind waiting a few days for extension authors to make (mostly minor, if any) changes to their extensions before upgrading.

  7. Re:Hmmmm by fymidos · · Score: 5, Informative

    A trend is not about absolute numbers.
    Another site may have 90% Explorer and 4% firefox.
    If last year the figures were 92% vs 2%, then the trend is the same as w3schools (where firefox usage jumped from 8% -> 18 %)

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  8. Re:Hmmmm by bunratty · · Score: 5, Informative
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  9. Re:What about browser spoofing? by xenocide2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Even when Opera and Mozilla say they're reporting as IE, they include some Mozilla tags to seperate themselves. Try setting up a small webserver and observing this yourself with a few different browsers. Usually browser statistics like this don't let such hoo-ha fool them. And I doubt the user-agent tag is actually used to give different HTML in the overwhelming majority of web sites.

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  10. Re:As much as I'd like this to be true... by bunratty · · Score: 5, Informative
    You're right. You need to look at many sites before you can say there's an overall trend. Let's see what Chuck Upsdell has to say about the trends he sees:

    IE: 84% and falling
    Mozilla: 7% and rising
    Safari: 1-2% and rising
    Opera: 1-2% and holding steady
    Netscape 4: below 1% and falling

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  11. Re:Google by bunratty · · Score: 4, Informative

    They kept browser stats from March 2001 to June 2004. They removed the browser and OS stats in July 2004.

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  12. Oh good grief... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Less than 2 years ago, IE had a 95% lock on the market. Anyone else see a trend here?"

    Okay, I realize it's considered Geek Chic to rip the methodology (or, more usually, the lack thereof) used by the "reporters" of these stories. But c'mon! My daughter, who's in 9th grade and not a particular fan of math, could see the holes in this one.

    The link used in the sentence quoted above, showing 95% market share for IE, goes to onestat.com. If the reporter had taken the time to check their latest report, IE still has a 93.9% share of the market. It's right there in their press releases! How hard would it have been to look?

    I love Firefox, and would love to see IE go away. But I'm getting real tired of having to apply my own personal lameness filter when it comes to determining what Slashdot stories actually have "stuff that matters".

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  13. Re:Hmmmm by strictfoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    W3schools stats lump Mozilla/firefox/etc together in one group under "Mozilla".

    And why would web developers use Mozilla instead of Firefox? I want something as bloat free as possible. Compared to Mozilla, IE is bloat free. Look at the feature list:
    advanced e-mail and newsgroup client, IRC chat client, and HTML editing

    That's why Firefox is nice. It's just a browser, thankfully.

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  14. IE vs Firefox by Rydian · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am a SysAdmin for a company that provides listings for real estate web sites. Sadly we aren't fully w3c compliant, but we make sure all of our code renders properly in both Mozilla/FireFox and Internet Explorer.

    Last week We had 12,156,966 hits to our sites, which is only the search related pages, not photos etc.. 11,689,635 (96.15%) were from Internet Explorer.

    I'd wager to say we would see a much more diverse range of users than a site specifically designed for web designers. I hate to say it, but IE is still as much of a force in the market as it ever was.

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