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PS2 Final Fantasy 7 Spinoff

Bagels writes "Square Enix is finally answering the prayers of thousands of FF7 fans with a side-story PS2 game called "Dirge of Cereberus: Final Fantasy VII." Not much is known yet - the game focuses on the character Vincent, it's set one year after the upcoming movie, Advent Children, and it's early in development as of now - but this is sure to be a hot topic amongst fans and critics of the series alike."

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  1. What's going on with Square? by kmak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First FFX-2, now this.. are they running of ideas? Or are they just more adversive to taking risks?

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    1. Re:What's going on with Square? by gamgee5273 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      No, I don't think that's it. I think FFX-2 was put out there to help calm the folks who didn't want to wait till FFXII but really didn't want to play FFXI Online. I really enjoyed the battle system in FFX-2, but was disappointed that so many of the backgrounds were recycled.

      As for the sequels to VII: People have wanted one for a while. Then, added to that, was the response to the appearance of Cloud and Aeris in Kingdom Hearts. At that point, I think SE realized that they had to explore FFVII a bit more or risk alienating a ton of fans.

      As for risk-taking: FFXI was a huge risk that has really paid off for them (the European service was just rolled out) and FFXII is supposedly going to feature quite a few changes that will continue to evolve the series.

      I think SE are doing what any self-respecting company should do: find the popular product, continue to give the fans what they want, and continue evolving the product. If, at any point, SE releases an FF that just royally sucks (and I'm not talking mediocre, like some think of FFVIII and FFIX as being) then I'll be worried that they aren't pushing the envelope any longer...

    2. Re:What's going on with Square? by Cecil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A lot of people, including myself, lump FFX - to some extent - and FFX-2 definitely, into the category of "royally sucks".

      I think FF has been going downhill since FF7. I'm used to the wacky changes in battle systems and completely disconnected stories and settings and I think that's great, I love seeing a company that isn't afraid to experiment. But one thing that has always tied the FF stories together is a rich and engrossing, and especially an epic story.

      Anyway, I've found solace in Tales of Symphonia for GameCube. It's what the last bunch of FF games should've been, perhaps even better. It's an absolutely fantastic game, and I highly recommend it to any FF fan.

    3. Re:What's going on with Square? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can you imagine what the programmers at Square were thinking when they sat down to work on FFVIII?

      "Let's make this game as boring as possible, and make the combat so annoying that it serves as little more than an interruption to your wandering around environments that look completely disconnected from one another."

      That's what I imagined, anyway.

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  2. Vincent was a cool character by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    My ex-girlfriend wanted me to start dressing like a vampire after that, which I declined :P

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  3. final fantasy ports by Speare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My last two gaming system purchases were driven by "whatever platform the next Final Fantasy" would be delivered. And the game platform companies know this, which is why they hotly compete for Square's business.

    I wish more of the older FFs were ported to newer platforms. (Heck, a generic SNES-on-PS2 emulator would be very cool.) I've never played FF7 but hear a lot about it. This could open a lot of past-their-prime games to a wider audience, much like the Atari classics movement.

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    1. Re:final fantasy ports by the+unbeliever · · Score: 4, Informative

      erm.

      most of them *have been*

      Final Fantasy Origins = FF1 on the PSX
      Final Fantasy Chronicles (FF4 (2 in the US) and Chrono Trigger)
      Final Fantasy Anthology (FF5 and FF6 (3 in the US)

      I own all three, gladly.

    2. Re:final fantasy ports by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 4, Informative

      Exactly, every FF except the Japanese III is playable on the PS2. Most are PSone discs, but run fine. They are still being pressed today, so you shouldn't have much trouble finding them (online, most store don't get new PSone discs in anymore). Part I and II are actually the Wonder Swan Color remakes, which means the dialog is a better translation, the graphics are improved, and the music is quite a bit more resolute.

  4. Times Have Changed by Kobold+Curry+Chef · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since the original FF designer (I believe his last name is Sakaguchi) left Square a couple years ago, things have definitely changed in the FF world. Now we're getting sequels (FF-X, this new one), MMORPG versions, cell phone games...all things that never happened with the original designer running things. Was he holding back the franchise, or was he being smart by not letting things go hog wild?

  5. Release date by StevenHenderson · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From TFA:

    While Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII is slated for release on the PlayStation 2 in 2005, Square Enix lists the game's genre as "undetermined," which suggests that the game is still in the early stages of development.

    If it is early in development, NO WAY it will see a release in 2005. FFXII is has been delayed until 2005 in Japan and even later here, so I doubt they will overlap the releases, and I have a tough time believing they will have the resources to devote to the game to get it out by then. They royally screwed up the sequel to FFX, so let's hope they get this one right...

  6. Hrm interesting by qazew82 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not complaining about another FF game, but I'm starting to wonder something -- tell me what you think.

    They talked about Advent Children coming out as a movie instead of a game, but now they have a game starting development. You think they decided to start the game development up because of the positive response from Advent Children? Or do you think that they are really just being that cool and pleasing us.

    eor

  7. This is good news by Tom+Courtenay · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm glad Square is finally listening to its fans! Last year they gave us an innovative sequel to one of the series best games (in X-2), and they're giving us more story for VII in the Advent Children project. Kudos!
    I'm sure that most of use would prefer an RPG follow-up to it, but at least they're learning to capitalize on established characters (not just franchises). A game based around this very unique character could work out well. Sort of an updated Altered Beast type of thing? (for those that don't know, Vincent was a character who had the ability to change into various monsters during a battle). Of course, it could suck....kind of like Altered Beast :)

    Squeenix games get a lot of flack from people, but it's mostly due to the raging fanboys that the games attract. If you can get past the fact that you're feeding the Squeenix monster, you'll often find a rewarding experience that can entertain those beyond the 14 year olds.

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  8. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...will Aeris be alive?

  9. Re:Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) by benzapp · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am fairly certain the name of the series was chosen when the original developer, Square, was on the verge of bankrupcy. They named the original Final Fantasy such because they thought it would be their final game. It ended up being far more popular than they thought it would be, and the company was saved.

    I haven't really played a final fantasy game since FFIII on my SNES like 10 years ago. That said, maybe someone out there knows the story better than I do.

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  10. Re:Should be good... by The+Desert+Palooka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I had the opposite reaction to X. I've been playing the FF series since the first one (with my favorite being VI) and I actually stopped liking FF when it came out... I couldn't stand the game.

    So from the opposite side of the spectrum, if it follows the format of X, I'm out.

    *shrug*

    If it's more like IX, or VI, or perhaps even VII or VIII, count me in, I'll even consider buying a PS2.

  11. Re:Should be good... by Techguy666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Final Fantasy X is actually in my PS2 right now. I like the story but the game play is a little annoying.

    When I first started playing, I was ticked-off that there were so many cut-scenes breaking the pace of my game play. I'm 3/4 through FFX now and I find myself getting ticked-off that the game play is interrupting my animated movie...

    I would have liked FFX's gameplay more tied-in with the story such as NeverWinter Nights or Splinter Cell, to cut down on the extreme use of cut-scenes - or less emphasis on the constant need to power-up so we could spend more time exploring, like Myst or Syberia, and enjoying the pretty scenery and cool music.

  12. The 'Final' in 'Final Fantasy" by maiku · · Score: 4, Informative

    I always wondered about the 'Final' thing. Thanks Wikipedia!

    "The series' name comes from Square's brush with bankruptcy, and is an excellent example of gallows humor. Head designer Hironobu Sakaguchi decided to make the company's last project a fantasy role-playing game, as the name of Final Fantasy implies. The game's success brought the company to profitability, and the Final Fantasy video game franchise was born."

  13. Re:If it's going to have the girls from the FF ser by Dehumanizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who plays ANY game wearing pants? :)

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  14. Re:goddamnit by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 3, Funny
    call me a purist

    OK. You're a purist. And God hates fanboy purists, so I'd keep one eye on passing storm clouds.

    I've enjoyed FF from #1 all the way through FFX-2. They're just enjoyable diversions, folks. There's nothing to be "purist" about. FFX-2 was fluffy and fun. Cracking a smile during an RPG will not bring about the Apocalypse.

    bastardization of my favorite stories when there's a continuation made after the story has ended. it's as if there was a braveheart 2 being made.

    No, it's not even on the same continent as the city that contains the ballpark. This comment is particularly ironic considering how Braveheart 1 was a bastardization of actual history.

    Square can do what they want with their properties. I can play them or not. If they produce a sequel I don't like, well, that's life. There's no point in whining like a sissy over it.

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  15. Re:A true sequel...? by Pluvius · · Score: 3, Funny

    On a second thought, after playing FFX2, maybe it would be best NOT to have a sequel...

    Yes. It would be hard to make a sequel as good as FFX2, so why bother trying?

    Rob