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Mandrake 10.1 Community Released
MohammedSameer writes "Mandrakesoft released MandrakeLinux 10.1 Community, As usual it's only available first to the club members
The new release features Kernel 2.6.8.1, Xorg-X11 6.7, KDE 3.2.3 with 3.3 as an install option,"
Does this actually matter? How many Madrake Users get their ISO's from Mandrake anyway? Torrents will probably have 10.1 within the day.
Open Source Sushi
My experience has been that you really need to be an enthusiast of this distro to bother installing the Community version of it. For some reason, I ended up with the Comminity version of 10.0 when downloading it via BitTorrent, and boy did it need some work. KDE crashing every ten seconds, weird bugs like the SDL segfault when the wacom tablet module (evdev) was loaded, etc.
Point being, don't try this out as a stable release. Only try it if you have time to kill and really want to see what Mandrake has done with their release this far. Otherwise, wait for the Official ISOs when they become availible to the public.
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
Ok, I see that improved laptop support is one of the touted features here. My question is, how good is it?
/mbr' pained me!) but at least i can spend three and a half hours at a coffee shop without needing an outlet. cygwin takes the edge off, but its a bit like methadone if you asked me.
I just switched back to windows (rather painlessly, thanks to the excellent QtParted and, strangely enough, a windows ME boot disk [for an XP machine--needed to restore the MBR]). I can't tell you how greatly it pains me to do so--as far as i'm concerned, linux is ready for the desktop, and has been for some time. ACPI-based laptops though, are another story. I've been trying for weeks to get my battery life to come close to what's possible under windows, and while the Software suspend project seems to work for a lot of people, i could never get it to work on my laptop (or maybe just my kernel). I've tried various distributions, from suse to xandros to straight debian to knoppix and even the simpler ones such as DSL and none of them allow me to really use my laptop for more than about an hour (give or take a quarter) without plugging in, which is just unacceptable for my purposes.
So i finally gave up and dropped the linux partitions and reinstalled the boot sector (oh how that final 'fdisk
so anyway, for anyone who's tested and/or used the new version of MDK on a recent laptop, what's your experience with the ACPI support? Battery life? Suspend functionality? dare i ask--functional keys? (yes, i know that's not really related to acpi, but mandrake is generally pretty conscientious about things like that, i thought perhaps they might have integrated a solution.)
One of the best resources in the Mandrake community has been an individual called Texstar who ran a Linux news site called www.pclinuxonline.com and also in his spare time created RPM packages for Mandrake systems. Texstar's packages became justly famous and were widely used. Thanks to his efforts, many reallly nice RPMs were made available to the MDK commmunity, and eventually went into 9 and 10 from what I've heard. This kind of 'community support' is what I'm most happy with.
Thanks Texstar!
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I've been running the development version for a little time now, and AFAICS all show-stopper bugs have been properly squashed by now. It has been running quite smoothly for a few weeks now. However, as parent says: don't use it if you want something rock solid, wait for 10.1 Official. But if you want all the shiny brand new stuff, a streamlined install with an excellent hardware detection, and are not afraid of a few weird things happening now and then, then give it a try!
Gravitation is a theory, not a fact.
If their claims hold water, that is...
1. Centrino wireless support integrated, Wi-Fi roaming.
2. ACPI support - finally! I'm sick with rebooting the laptop.
But, good as it sounds, I'm still waiting for the Official.
This problem is common with the 2.6 kernel and has been verified in Mandrake 10.0 Community, Red Hat FC1, Red Hat FC2, and others.
/dev/hda, and of=(output dir) should point to where you want to save the bootsector as a file. Restore the MBR by reversing the input and output.
Read about it here.
Basically, if you touch the MBR with a 2.6 kernel bootloader, XP or Windows 2000 is gone, and can't be restored. So backup your MBR first by using
"dd if=(input device) of=/(output dir)/hda-img.mbr bs=512 count=1"
where if=(input device), should point to your first drive, eg.
Even if you do this to restore, your Windows partition may still be toast, depending on how much you messed with the partition table.
'Be always mindful, even when ditch-digging.' --D. T. Suzuki
Those two are pretty different : Mandrake is designed for the newcommer or someone who want to install a system in less than 30 minutes without being bothered by hardware problems (autodetection wizard). The obtained system is quite rigid and require to enjoy GUI config tools (cause some of them cannot be bypassed). Gentoo is tailored by the user himself which results in a longer installation (can be up to 2 days) process, and a minimum of automatisation (some kind of autodetection but you are encouraged to avoid it), all this in order to get the system you want (ie most of the time faster than any precompiled distros). To compare distros with cars Mandrake would be an easy to drive automatic and Gentoo would be a custom car ...
*nix is userfriendly
It kind of depends upon whether you think supporting Mandrake is a good idea, and whether you think that the OS is worth paying someone to continue working on their favorite distribution.
I have been a Club member in the past, and probably will be again. Asside from the default USB drivers not supporting the Via USB 2.0 chips, easily fixable by replacing the usb-uhci with huci-ohc (or something like that), I have had no significant problems with the 10.1rc1 package.
If you think that it is worth purchasing, to the point where you would pick up a copy at your local computer superstore whenever they get around to carrying it, joining the club gets your money to the developers at a much higher percentage of what you spend.
There are other advantages as well, which you can read on their web page if it really interests you. If not, then the above probably won't be of much interest either.
-Rusty
You never know...
I'd say club membership is worth it, if you happen to prefer Mandrake as your primary distro. I appreciate the dedicated mirrors for club members quite a bit. Makes patch times much faster.
I also like the repositories for software that are available to club members. I have yet to find a piece of software out there that someone didn't turn into a Mandrake RPM, and the club mirrors seem to have it all. Sure, you can find them other places, too, but all in all it's nice to have everything in one place.
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Here is a cooker mailing list post refering to the bug being resolved.
The site loadux.com is a pay service ($6.99) not actually associated with Mandrake. In other words, you pay them for something Mandrake will soon be releasing to everyone for free, and Mandrake gets nothing.
You want the new Mandrake NOW NOW NOW? You've got six choices:
1) Get a club membership. You get tons of apps prepackaged as Mandrake RPMs and dedicated mirrors, too.
2) Make a friend with someone who already has a club membership. Nothing wrong with making copies of the CDs.
3) Learn the art of patience, and wait for the general release.
4) Download the current Cooker. It's gonna be essentially the same.
5) Download the sources and compile it yourself. Pain in the butt, but no one ever said the GPL means they have to provide you binaries, only source.
6) Pay these guys $6.99 to download the images from them. Please note: This option will automatically make you an asshat.