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Microsoft's Chief Linux Strategist Interviewed

sl0wp0is0n writes "Computerworld has published an interview with Microsoft's chief Linux strategist, Martin Taylor. It's interesting to find out that Microsoft thinks and predicts Novell (SuSE) will be the dominant Linux distribution they'll have to compete against. The interview also has Taylor talking about indemnification, IBM and his realization that customers generally adopt Linux to get a better TCO than Unix, not Windows."

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  1. Re:I can't work out what this means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    He is basically saying that different companies are using different kernel versions, and changing/tailoring the kernel to meet their individual needs.

  2. Re:A most interesting interview by bersl2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh, there's no regression testing.

    1. Not always true.
    2. Admins don't (and shouldn't) rely on Microsoft's or anybody else's regression and breakage testing anyway.

  3. Let me tell you about TCO. by MongooseCN · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just setup a linux file server for my business. If I bought a windows server with enough licenses for the computers in my store, it would cost me $3000. Linux on the other hand cost me $0.

    Now if a person who needed a server like this didn't know anything about linux, I'm sure he could hire someone for less than $3000 to set it up for him. $100 to hire someone for an hour would be reasonable.

    I just thought I'd throw in that example...

  4. Re:I don't understand... by fish34 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Novell own SuSE.

  5. Re:I don't understand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Novell owns SUSE, they bought them out a little while ago.

  6. Re:I don't understand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ummmm....Novell owns Suse.

  7. Re:I don't understand... by speighd · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is a good solid distro using KDE as the default desktop environment. It has one feature that IMHO puts it at the head of the list for non-geek use, YaST. It makes maintenance a lot easier than the standard LINUX methods. Since YaSY is now GPL, maybe we will see other distros adopt it. Now if only SuSE would adopt apt-get from Debian. I hate resolving dependecies..... Luckily it doesn't occur very often.

  8. Re:I don't understand... by skiman1979 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I hate resolving dependecies..... Luckily it doesn't occur very often.

    apt-get isn't the only thing that resolves dependencies. urpmi in Mandrake Linux does, as well as emerge in Gentoo. In my experience, both tools have done a good job at automatically finding and installing dependancies, even searching multiple mirrors for them. Besides, isn't apt-get ported (or being ported) to other distros? I seem to remember being able to install some version of apt in mandrake, or was it red hat? I have nothing against Debian (never having used it myself) but I seem to find a lot of people bragging about Debian because it has apt-get.

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  9. MS stands behind its products? by Quila · · Score: 5, Informative
    One other thing that's come up more over the last 12 months is this notion of indemnification [against patent and copyright claims]. ... We really stand behind our technology in a pretty aggressive way. We should make sure that we get credit for that compared to Linux in many ways.

    Okay, let's look at the XP license:
    Privacy: (MS) 16. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES.... ALSO, THERE IS NO WARRANTY OR CONDITION OF TITLE, QUIET ENJOYMENT, QUIET POSSESSION, CORRESPONDENCE TO DESCRIPTION OR NON-INFRINGEMENT WITH REGARD TO THE SOFTWARE.


    That's really backing up your software guys.
  10. Re:He recently attended the MS FUD school by grahamm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is that the purpose behind the Linux Standards Base?

  11. Re:A most interesting interview by fitten · · Score: 2, Informative

    [quote]My company is trying to migrate to linux to get away from the nightmare that is windows security. we have the best firewalls you can buy and buy all the software scanners we can yet spyware sneaks into the machines because of the gigantic security holes that windows 2000 and XP has in them. none of this crud should get installed, yet it does, it bypasses the security settings and wiggles in there because of the flaws in IE and outook and Word.[/quote]

    I think you should be educating your users on things not to do. At home, I have the cheapest firewalls I can buy and buy none of the software scanners and I have had zero problems with my home network. Our work network has better (higher cost) firewalls and some machines that tend to have to be exposed to the world have scanners on them. Spyware and other crud doesn't get installed because the users here know and understand how these things are spread and don't do those things. Both my home network and our work network are heterogenous (contains both Windows and Linux boxes).

    [quote]we Had a Regional VP visit here during the last virus outbreak and he saw that the research department was working away without being bothered while we had to run around and fix machines because the patches and fixes would not reliably push out to the windows machines. He asked why, and the response from one of the IT guys was, "Oh, they run linux and are immune to all this."[/quote]

    Obviously phrased so that it implies that linux is immune to all virii, spyware, and other exploits. I can show you my past patch logs for Mandrake and SuSE 9.1 that prove your IT guys wrong. Your IT guys are simply allowing their emotional stances to cloud their professional advice, which is not a good thing at all. In general, when someone turns zealot and gets OS religion, he will tend to ignore things that he should be paying attention to, and would have been if he were more platform agnostic. This makes him a poor person for the job.

  12. Re:I can't work out what this means by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Informative
    WTF is a "stack" in this sense?

    A stack is a vertically integrated solution. For example, it can be a combination of OS, network severs, application servers and management tools all provided in one package by a single vendor. Ideally, all of the components of the stack have been pre-tested to work together smoothly.

  13. What a crock by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2, Informative

    Do you have any lined up for the future? They're going to continue to be around the scenarios that customers say are important -- TCO, security and reliability.

    So, when Windows "wins" any one of these, we know the research is pure bullshit.

    I love the talk about indemnification, too. People are worried that they won't be indemnified, so they'll run to Microsoft. Brilliant. Is that the same Microsoft as here? Surely it's another Microsoft we're talking about...

    For those who don't want to click:

    In a curious press release announcing the judgment, Osenbaugh appears to be threatening legal action against some SQL Server developers, "particularly those Microsoft customers who relied on Microsoft's assurances, failed to investigate them thoroughly, and knowingly continued to provide material steps in an Infringing Combination. These infringers, if any, may face treble damages for the entire three and one-half years the case was tied up in the courts. Microsoft is not a law firm. Relying on its advice should not constitute acting in good faith; which is the required defense to treble damages for failure to investigate and honor patents once on notice of their existence."