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Gaim Releases Version 1.0.0

bfree writes "Congratulations to all in the gaim team as they release for download version 1.0.0 (changelog). For those who don't know what gaim is, you could read the full answer on their site but for the lazy: 'Gaim is a multi-protocol instant messaging (IM) client for Linux, BSD, MacOS X, and Windows. It is compatible with AIM (Oscar and TOC protocols), ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo!, IRC, Jabber, Gadu-Gadu, and Zephyr networks.' Gaim is also the 2nd most active project on Sourceforge and the 4th most popular on Freshmeat and seemingly all round #1 Free IM client!"

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  1. Hooray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Congratulations to the GAIM team!

  2. The most active by nyri · · Score: 4, Informative

    In fact, Gaim is the most active projecy on the sourceforge. The list is (from the sourceforges main page):
    1 Gaim
    2 eGroupWare: Enterprise CollaborationAccepting Donations
    3 Azureus - BitTorrent ClientAccepting Donations
    4 FCKeditorAccepting Donations
    5 phpMyAdminAccepting Donations
    6 Compiere ERP + CRM Business Solution
    7 OpenWFEAccepting Donations
    8 SugarCRM Accepting Donations
    9 WinMergeAccepting Donations
    10 POPFile - Automatic Email ClassificationAccepting Donations

    Maybe being slashdoted increased its activity...

    1. Re:The most active by TunaPhish · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, Gaim is almost always on top. They're pretty good about having a two-week release schedule.

      You can check out #gaim on freenode and actually see how active it really is. Most of the developers are there on a daily basis working on stuff.

  3. Re:why 1.0? by Surye · · Score: 5, Informative

    Long discussion on name change. To sum it up, just because.

  4. Re:on the mac... by oboylet · · Score: 5, Informative
    A better question might be: why should I prefer it to adiumx [adiumx.com]? Adium is essentially a mac-friendly gaim.

    Adiumx has a really straight forward user interface, and feels very mac-like. It supports a laundry list of protocols, but keeps things simple yet powerful in terms of UI.

    True, you won't find all the gee-gaws from iChat AV a la video/teleconfrencing, but it's a well written program that does IM extremely well (much better than iChat ... *cough* tabs, easily set up for multiple users of the same computer, etc *cough*).

    And it's not resource intensive.

  5. Re:Video/audio sound support? by Surye · · Score: 5, Informative
  6. Re:why 1.0? by Surye · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, they made it quite clear in the IRC, and in the lists that it has nothing to do with core goals met. Simply wanted a new, more flexible naming scheme then "number of releases" which was broken anyways during 0.59.x

  7. 1.0.0 is just a version number scheme change... by atallah · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not to burst anyone's bubble... but i've been waiting for this story to hit the front page just so i could!

    This isn't a 1.0 release it is a 1.0.0 release: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?threa d_id=5592699&forum_id=33079

    All it means is that future releases will be in X.Y.Z format. X will mean a change to the API breaking old plugins, Y is any other change, and Z is pretty much meaningless.

  8. Re:why 1.0? by SLOviper · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not exactly sure why they went to 1.0 either - although it has been much more stable than ever before (since 0.7). I guess they figured that it was good enough to "officially" release.

    For those interested, here is the changelog from the sourceforge site:

    version 1.0.0 (09/17/2004):
    New Features:
    * Drag-and-drop buddy support for the Invite dialog (Stu Tomlinson)
    * Drag-and-drop buddy support for the Pounce dialog (Stu Tomlinson)
    * View Chat log available from the interface (Daniel Atallah)
    * Ability to receive offline messages in character encodings
    other than ASCII (thanks to Nick Sukharev)
    * File transfer status messages printed to conversation
    windows (Dave West)
    * Display file transfer messages when someone sends you a file
    over AIM (Dave West)
    * Handle MSN buddy lists more sanely (Felipe Contreras)
    * Zephyr can use tzc to run from behind a firewall (Arun A Tharuvai)

    Bug Fixes:
    * Work around window manager stupidity with new dialog windows (Dave West)
    * Compile with gtk 2.5.x (Gary Kramlich)
    * Escape invalid characters in log names (Daniel Atallah)
    * Fix for clicking add in an msn chat with 2 or more people in your buddy
    list (Daniel Atallah)

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  9. Re:Video/audio sound support? by X-wes · · Score: 2, Informative

    Gaim VV says:
    Your check is in the mail.

  10. Re:no mac binary by oboylet · · Score: 4, Informative
    While its true there's not a readily available binary of 1.0.0, you can always use fink/darwinports to get the latest stable binary, which right now is .8.2.1 here.

    I agree, its misleading, and the gtk2/x11 port is butt-ugly, it does work.

    For gaim on osx I prefer adiumx [adiumx.com].

  11. Re:my gaim experiences by Tezkah · · Score: 2, Informative

    Instructions for getting rid of it

    As for the fellow below me, its Adware. Spyware, even, but tries to get out of it through a technicality.

  12. Re:Video/audio sound support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Actually the yahoo video/voice stuff has been reverse engineered. There is no lib supporting it necessarily.. Libyahoo2 supports video but not audio.. maybe I'll look into this after my other project stuff.

  13. For those with a more text-based outlook by phaze3000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try bitlbee - an IRC to IM gateway. I've been using it for sometime and it's superb, I can use my favourite IRC client (irssi) to chat to everyone via an ssh session to my box at home, whatever server room I happen to be holed up in at the time.

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  14. Re:Gaim rules. by Hobadee · · Score: 2, Informative

    Normal windows popups when re-connecting, so if you are in the middle of typing, it gets the normal windows treatment of stealing focus. I hate focus stealing popup windows.
    <br /><br />
    Continueing with the "this is possible already trend..."
    <br /><br />
    You can change this. Tools > Preferences > Conversations > Raise IM window on events/Raise chat window on events

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  15. Re:why 1.0? by SimGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    People have (and we knew this way ahead of the actual release) this horrible misconception that 1.0.0 is Gaim's first major stable release, but for those too lazy to read the discussion on the mailing list, Gaim's versioning is very simple, and 1.0.0 is completely insignificant. We could have started at 12.8.17, but 1.0.0 is a nice place to start numbering from and not break package managers version comparison logic or seeming too completely random....

    Example versioning:

    1.0.0: First release with this numbering system
    1.0.1: No changes to Gaim's API; New features, bugfixes
    1.1.0: New Gaim API added; none removed or changed
    1.2.0: Same as above
    2.0.0: Gaim API changed or removed breaking plugins or anyone using libgaim.
    2.0.1: No changes to API; New features & bugfixes
    2.0.2: et cetera

    As I placed in the topic of #Gaim:

    1.0.0! Not special in any way, other than that you should be using it.

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  16. Re:why 1.0? by SimGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just to be clear, I am not a Gaim developer. I am a patch contributor and plugin writer for Gaim that happens to be very familiar with the project.

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  17. Re:gaim by sigaar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Have you updated your gaim recently. What you describe sound very much like what usually happens every time Yahoo changes something to shut out third party software.

    Usually you just have to wait for the next release for gaim and you're good to go again. They release every two or three weeks.

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  18. Re:gaim by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 5, Informative
    as far as windows is concerned is gaim better than miranda?

    Yes and no. IMHO it's up to the end user to decide what their IM needs are, and choose based on that.

    Miranda is a fantastic program - really small with plenty of plugins. The interface is much more responsive than Gaim - it's a very lean program.

    That said, one thing GAIM can do is provide the ability to chat in Yahoo rooms. Miranda sadly can't do that (to the best of my knowledge).

    I have both installed - they are both quality open source programs with very active communities.

  19. Re:Too heavy.. by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 2, Informative
    his problem gaim is too heavy / resource intensive for their workstations
    To an extent, I can agree with this, and I'm not exactly on a "stuck" workstation. I'm running XP on an AMD 2600+ with 512 megs of RAM. I just installed gaim 1.0.0 to give it a test run. gaim.exe uses about 18 megs of RAM, whereas aim.exe uses about 5 megs and ICQ runs about 4 megs. AIM and ICQ are the only IM services I use, so for me, it makes more sense to run both AIM and ICQ instead of running gaim. The two of them combined use about half the RAM of gaim, so I can see where this would be a major issue with an older machine.

    I also can't seem to get over the gtk interface; under Windows, it's just clunky. I'm sorry, but I don't know of another way to put it. The widgets (icons, buttons, select lists) are huge, gaim takes twice as much screen real estate as AIM or ICQ's native win32 apps. I have the same issue with the Windows version of Ethereal, its screen presence is bloated. Maybe I'm missing a setting somewhere?

    I love the idea of gaim (and I use Ethereal on a regular basis, kludgy interface or not) but I don't think gaim will ever supplant win32 clients until its interface is slimmed down. I'm not saying that Windows is gaim's target platform - obviously, quite the contrary - but if you're hoping to convince your Windows-using friends to abandon 2 or 3 IM clients in favor of gaim, I don't think it's going to happen just yet.

    All that said, congrats to the gaim team. gaim is an impressive piece of software, from the "behind the scenes" side, especially.
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  20. Gaim still lacks native encryption by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Informative

    You still don't get native encryption with Gaim, and Gaim lacks GPG support for Jabber (as Gabber does). The only way to get support is to download gaim-e, which frequently doesn't build with the current gaim.

    1. Re:Gaim still lacks native encryption by Deanalator · · Score: 3, Informative

      gaim-encryption (http://gaim-encryption.sourceforge.net/) is about a jillion times better than gaim-e. It lets me use 4096 bit RSA to talk to all my friends overseas about taking out the capitalist machine.

  21. Re:no mac binary by knutal · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't think gaim qualifies as mac compatible till someone bothers putting a mac binary on their site.

    A port of gaim to osx needs a port of gtk first, which is some time into the future, the GTK+OSX project aimed at this but with gtk1.x, not gtk2. Anyway, that project seems far from finished... You can ofcourse install it under X11, or you could try out adiumX, which uses the core library of gaim anyway.

  22. Another Protocol... by elFarto+the+2nd · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you who are sick of using the Sametime client, Meanwhile is a plugin for Gaim to let you use Sametime.

    It's availible from http://meanwhile.sourceforge.net/

    Regards
    elFarto
  23. Re:Too heavy.. by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 4, Informative

    To illustrate my points, I've created a series of screenshots. They demonstrate the large amount of screen real estate that gaim takes up on Windows compared to AIM and ICQ, the offset preferences window that gtk generates compared to AIM's small and centered preference window, and the disk space required by AIM, ICQ, gaim+gtk, and AIM+ICQ vs. gaim+gtk.

    My conclusion is obvious, but please draw your own. You should definitely install gaim 1.0.0 if you haven't already, even if only to test it out.

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    "BSD: Free as in speech. Linux: Free as in beer. Windows 10: Free as in herpes." --Man On Pink Corner in #52607549.
  24. GTK bug work around for Windows by Patik · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a shame this nasty bug is still in GTK. When you view a profile that has characters in Symbol or some other weird font, such as a heart or fancy icon, Gaim will crash. The only work around for now is to go to Preferences, Message Text, and turn on "ignore font faces."

  25. Re:no mac binary by nuggetman · · Score: 2, Informative

    why don't you cry me a river. Compiling isn't that hard.

    GAIM is natively an X11 app, and X11 is horribly disjointed from the rest of the OS X interface

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  26. Re:Too heavy.. by netsharc · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, if you turn off "Show Buddy Icons" (somewhere in the Preferences), Gaim shows only the 16x16 protocol icons, which makes for a buddy list which is a lot more compact, therefore smaller as well, especially without the ads.

    The problem of directory sizes, is that Gaim installs all possible languages -- you can set LANG=?? as an environment variable and get Gaim in that language. I suppose you can delete the unnecessary language files to save space. And from the looks of it, you're using ICQlite. Whatever happened to the full-blown ICQ, which installed a light web-server so people can visit your "homepage" and even chat to you through a Java-Applet of sorts.

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  27. Re:just downloaded it by Julian352 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Many people seem to think similarly about their font selection. That is why someone has created the Extended Prefs pluging for gaim. It allows you to change the font size of incoming IMs as well as simplification of the IM window. Very convenient.

  28. Re:gaim by MarkByers · · Score: 2, Informative

    Tools->Preferences->Browser->Firefox

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    I'll probably be modded down for this...
  29. Re:Too heavy.. by quantaman · · Score: 2, Informative

    At thge end of your page with the screenshots

    AIM requires about 6.25 megs. ICQ requires about 11.1 megs. gaim requires about 13.9 megs plus 14.4 megs for the gtk files. Install AIM and ICQ, use about 17.5 megs of disk. Install gaim, use about 28.3 megs of disk. If the only messaging services you use are AIM and ICQ, you are better off installing AIM and ICQ, as opposed to installing gaim.

    Though if you're already using something gtk based, say gimp, the 14.4M for the gtk files can no longer be blamed on gaim alone and it wins the disk space battle. That being said the problem with icon sizes is definately an issue. If you want you can try submitting a bug report, see what they say.

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  30. Re:Gaim rules. by ImpTech · · Score: 2, Informative

    > Normal windows popups when re-connecting, so if you are in the middle of typing, it gets the normal windows treatment of stealing focus. I hate focus stealing popup windows.

    I believe the Auto-Reconnect plugin has had options to disable this behavior for at least a couple of releases now.