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Vehicles of Tomorrow?

Human Factors Guy writes "We've seen here before car manufacturers putting more and more technology into cars, but what are the cars of tomorrow going to look like? Driver monitoring through head and eye tracking (which Volvo is already implementing), Adaptive Cruise Control systems, maybe even pedestrian recognition systems. With cars becoming more like semi-intelligent robots every year, what do /. readers think will and won't make it?"

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  1. Future is here now... by Kr3m3Puff · · Score: 4, Informative
    I have a FX35, which is a great gadget car, and I already have the "Adaptive Cruise Control" mentioned. From the Infiniti website:
    It's like cruise control, only smarter. Using a laser sensor and digital rangefinder, Intelligent Cruise Control* scans the road and detects vehicles ahead. If cars slow, it automatically decelerates and/or brakes. When traffic clears, cruising speed is resumed.
    Optional FX45/FX35

    *Optional Intelligent Cruise Control is not a collision avoidance or warning device. For highway use only and not intended for congested areas or city driving. The system will not brake automatically to a stop. Failure to apply the brakes could result in an accident.


    I have used this a lot while driving on long trips and I totally love it. It takes a bit getting used to letting the car do the braking, but once you get used to it, you wonder what you ever did without it before.

    So to answer your question, what will cars of the future look like, I would say the Infiniti FX35 is a good start...

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    1. Re:Future is here now... by shirai · · Score: 2, Informative

      Another great incremental feature that is creeping its way into sports cars is the F1 style paddle shift transmission.

      I know you don't believe me (it's not really ncessary to appreciate this post though), but I have this in my Ferrari 360 Modena and at first, this technology appeared to suck and didn't work well (too much clutch slipping, jerky starts, etc.). Then they upgraded the computer to a newer version and it works a lot better. Similar technology can now be found in more consumer friendly cars.

      An important note: This is NOT an automatic transmission with a manual gear selector (which you'll still find in even a Porsche). An F1 transmission has a clutch, like a regular stick shift, but it is computer controlled. This means a few things:

      A. You don't get the rubber banding of automatics because of the torque converter that makes most automatics lack the sharp "in control" feeling of sticks.

      B. You don't get the torque loss from a torque converter.

      C. You get faster shifts than a stick.

      D. For sport driving, you don't have to take one hand off the wheel.

      That said, there are still a few trade-offs.

      a. You don't get to double-clutch because you don't control the amount your clutch is pushed in.

      b. You can't push the clutch in when you get wheelspin to bring the tire rotation to neutral (i.e. same speed as the road)

      Also, specifically in the 360, you HAVE to have the brake pushed in to engage 1st gear from neutral, the computer automatically puts you into neutral after a minute or so of being stopped (which really sucks if the light just turned green and your computer goes into neutral right before you need to go) and reverse takes a long time to engage because you have to hold the reverse lever in place for a few seconds. Not to mention that the reverse lever is so small and everyone routinely laughs at the cute "shift lever" you've got that is actually the "reverse" lever.

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  2. The landmaster by mikael · · Score: 2, Informative

    I always thought being able to drive one of these landmaster vehicles would be cool.

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  3. Peak Oil means engine changes by suzerain · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know how much the car itself will change from a design sense (if that's what is meant by 'look like'), and I'm not sure how much the act of driving a car will change.

    It does seem that there is a trend toward all these 'driver aid' tools, like GPS systems and ubiquitous Big Brother-like organizations that can control your car and track you. I do think, therefore, that the act of driving is going to be considerably less free, as an experience.

    The real change will be under the hood, as Peak Oil passes, and the petroleum supplies begin to dwindle rather than grow (there are currently zero large oil fields set to come online in 2008, and only one in 2007, so it might be here faster than we think). I'd expect, therefore, that cars will become a luxury commodity once again, as the cost of powering them starts to become prohibitively expensive.

    As this happens, there will likely be another trend in the 2010s similar to the 1980s, when there was a premium placed on economy, rather than size, because if the price of gas balloons in the 2010s to something more like $5-$7 a gallon, as some in the oil industry predict, it means saving a 10 MPG increase in economy can make a dig difference to the TCO of an automobile.

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  4. Re:What should, but won't, make it by PeterChenoweth · · Score: 2, Informative

    And, starting in 2005 (or is it 2006?) Infinity actually has a lane-sensor system option for the FX35/45, so says the latest edition of Car and Driver. Has a camera that monitors the lanes and emits a noise if the driver crosses a line.

  5. Re:the best one by squarefish · · Score: 3, Informative

    yes

    the 8 footer works best for this.

    it's also pretty easy to rent a truck- if absolutely neccessary.

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  6. Re:Nothing new by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 2, Informative

    They could easily average 25 mph

    Problem with many people is they're lazy and they want to take all their crap all over the place with them.

    I would think the bigger problem would be that speed limitation - even in small towns, the lowest the speed limit normally gets outside school zones is 30-35 mph.

  7. Best Vehicle is No Vehicle by Stanistani · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm not anti-car, but decided long ago to live near where I work, and haven't owned a car in ten years.

    I'm now $60K US richer than I would have been, calmer, and twenty-five pounds lighter.

    That's advanced enough for me...

  8. Drive by wire by claes · · Score: 4, Informative

    The biggest change I can imagine is when drive-by-wire will be fully implemented. This means among other things that steering will no longer will be done mechanically. This will change the interior or cars dramatically, see here and here.

  9. Re:What's coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You can get a bolt-on preoiler for your car. Here's one:
    http://www.syntheticlubes.com/amsoil_amsoile r.html

  10. Re:Nothing new by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    Agreed, except for automatic ignition, automatic transmission, power steering, power brakes, power roofs, power locks, airbags, traction control, running lights, headlights period, huge leaps in aerodynamics and materials, production economics, component lifespans, hybrid vehicles, and associated technologies (ultracapacitors, higher energy/power density batteries, etc), and a dozen other things I can't think of off the top of my head, nothing has really changed.

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  11. Combustion engines are NOT efficient by reynolds_john · · Score: 2, Informative
    Combustion engines are NOT efficient. Most four-stroke engines transfer only 20% to 25% of their heat energy into mechanical energy. Then there's the loss of energy due to friction and cooling.

    There are some interesting write-ups here:
    The Internal Combustion Engine
    and
    Concept IC Engine

  12. Asleep At The Wheel Detector by engywook · · Score: 2, Informative

    A few years ago, I was at an SAE committee meeting where a project was presented. The gist of it is that cameras look at the road's lane markers. If the system detects that the vehicle is drifting too close to or maybe over the edge of the lane (without the turn signal active to signal a lane shift or turn), the system sounds an alert (loud noise) to wake up the driver who has (presumably) started nodding off. I don't recall seeing that kind of system offered in a production vehicle, but it seemed pretty far along when presented. I'd guess that all by itself, the cameras and processing power might be a bit pricy. However, if the cameras and processing power could be shared with other uses that could justify their cost....

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  13. Fully automatic vehicles - PRT by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 2, Informative

    Personal Rapid Transit, a packet based mass transit system.

    e.g.
    http://www.cprt.org/

    Not that PRT will make the car obsolete, but it will reduce the need for it as day to day transport leaving it mainly as a pleasure vehicle.

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  14. :yes, but, redux by GeorgeVW · · Score: 2, Informative

    The design consideration of the Abrams was for speed, not fuel efficiency, figuring a battle range of less than 100mi, hence the gas turbine rather than the diesel engine that almost all other tanks use (and yes, diesel engines are inherently more efficient). The type of turbine that's being described by the OP is a turbine to generate electricity, not to move a 60+ton vehicle, so the comparison with a battle tank that uses a different type of turbine for a different purpose seemed pretty senseless.

  15. Re:stop RED turn signals...! by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 2, Informative

    On some cars it's just a cost saving measure. By using the same bulb for turn signals and brakes you can save the cost of two bulbs, their sockets, 10 feet of wire from the turn signal relay, and you can use a smaller tail light lens which will be slightly cheaper to produce.

    The weirdest was the mercury monarch from the late seventies which had an empty amber position on the tail light lens but the turns signals were still sharing the red brake lights.

  16. Re:Just one small request by nharmon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, in your situation, the only time the roads would be slick is when it first rains and brings the oils in the road to the surface.

    However, in Michigan, we get nasty ice crap on the roads.

    Here, this better explains it:

    http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=fun_on_ ic e.wmv

  17. Automatic Traffic Law Enforcement by Confused · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least here in Europe, we see the signs of the future cars today, and I hate it. All trends seem to converge to make traffic laws self-enforcing like laws of nature.

    Want to drive too fast - sorry, the car won't allow you.
    Want to park where you shouldn't - the automatically request a parking ticket for you.

    The pieces for this total traffic control are already here today. A few examples:

    We already have black boxes for cars. Those will see wide adoptions as soon as the insurance companies give rebates for having them installed. For them it makes sense, as it provides better data about accidents. No more fibbing how fast you were.

    We already have active on-board-units toll-collection for highway and automatic verification of the box is present. At the moment, it's only for trucks on highways here in Austria, but the system is still young.

    We already have working number plate scanner which tag entry ond exit time of cars on a road section and generates automatically speeding tickets if the average speed is too high.

    A lot of cars already have GPS navigation to know where they are. Some of those have online updates for traffic jams and other up-to-date news. I can imagine some of them even can tell you today if you're driving too fast.

    The engine-management software of all sports cars in Europe won't allow you to exceed 250 km/h, even if the car could.

    Tamper-prevention software is in wide use and mostly works if used together with verification. Think about the XBox.

    Now put all those ingredients in a big bowl, add a healthy dose of total-control-freaks in burocracies, bake for 10 years with insurance and motor-tax incentives and you get self-enforcing traffic laws.

    The car will know where it is and what the speed limits are. The car will make sure for you, that you stay a good citizen via the motor management. The car will know how big the distance to the front car is and will make sure you keep a healthy distance.

    Now why not rip the little dictator out of your car? Your car will have to identify itself to the autorities for toll collection on the most travelled roads. While doing that, it's very easy to verify that an untampered control-unit works in the car. If not, they have your license plate from the traffic camera.

    All in all, for most purposes it won't be possible to escape. Due to the numerous checkpoints, the recognition-rate doesn't even have to be perfect. 80 to 90 percent is good enough.

    Why develop auto-pilots if it's so easy to make the life of the drivers miserable.

  18. Re:Traffic jam solutions by bergeron76 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have to affirm this post. I live in Atlanta (#3 worst traffic in the US), and I regularly face a 1+ hour commute.

    The solution that I think about EVERY SINGLE WORKING DAY, is simple:

    Paint the letters "PASSING LANE ONLY" on the far left lane.

    Have the local PD issue tickets for people "hanging out" in the far left lane or going to slowly. Europe has this down to an art and few things are as exhilarating as driving on the autobahn (or other major highways there). The net result of a passing-only lane is that it creates a "vent" that allows the people that want to get out of town FAST. The pressure on the remaining lanes would be is therefore less cumulative. I consistently drive home in 8 lanes of traffic (I-75) -> (I-575) in bumper to bumper traffic, so I have a lot of time to think about the how much I hate it.

    Hell, that's why I spend so much time working on the DashPC; but that's not the point of this post.

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  19. Re:My #1 Wish for Tomorrow's Cars: by sploo22 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can't wait until Stirling engines become popular, either for cars or just home electrical power. Basically, they're external combustion engines that run off any heat difference; a furnace, a paraboloidal solar collector, whatever.

    It seems like about once a year, I read a report somewhere like PopSci that someone's finally figured out how to make the concept workable for commercial purposes - even though Stirling engines were used very successfully in rural areas in the 1800s!. Yet somehow, every startup just disappears off the face of the earth afterwards for no apparent reason. Coincidence... or conspiracy?

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  20. Maybe not electronic, but high tech for sure... by scratchor · · Score: 2, Informative
    The people at the material engineering department at the University of Leuven (KULEUVEN) built a carbon-fibre car. Ultra light! Ofcourse, they have been around in Formula One cars, but the novelty here is that they actually developed techniques to do it cheaply! To prove it, they built the chassis of a real Volkswagen Lupo in carbon-fibre. Weighs around 25kg! The advantages here are:
    • Safety: carbon fibre is super strong! (Formula one, remember)
    • Environment: lighter means less fuel consumption, ...
    • Durability: no corrosion or metal fatigue.
    Check out the article. (dutch, use babelfish ;-))
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