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Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell

jmweeks writes "It comes in a black edition and a white edition, and I suppose this symbolizes the two schools of thought warring within. If you've been in any chain book store this month, you've seen its emblem--the raven in flight, the big swirling ampersand. Susanna Clarke's Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell is something extraordinary: many adult fantasy novels are taken seriously by their readers, the nerds among us; Strange & Norrell is taken seriously by its publisher and its critics as well. It is a small complaint, then, to say that it is taken perhaps a bit too seriously by its author." Read on for the rest of Weeks' review. Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell author Susanna Clarke pages 780 publisher Bloomsbury Publishing rating 7 reviewer Jose M. Weeks ISBN 1582344167 summary A serious novel of fantasy and magic.

It is one of the great themes of fantasy, maybe even the theme: that some art or technology of incredible power has been lost, lost for ages--and just now, just in the present, it has been resurrected. We seek awakening, we seek renewal--I don't know, we seek something, because from The Lord of the Rings to The Wheel of Time to Stargate, this theme resonates.

In Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrel, the lost art is magic. This is England as the Nineteenth Century opens, and magic--founded in this country by a king who was once its strongest practitioner, a king who reigned three hundred years--is not practiced any longer. Oh, hundreds of magicians still argue vigilantly over its customs and methods and history, but the casting of actual spells is beyond them.

Enter Gilbert Norrell, a strange little recluse of a man, who hoards books and does his damnedest to end the career of any magician he can find. Who is also, by the way, the first Englishman to do magic in centuries. Mr. Norrell's purpose is to restore magic to England, provided it is studied and practiced under his terms, and preferably by no one but him.

Jonathan Strange, a young man who stumbles upon magic on a whim, who is to become Norrell's colleague, student, and adversary, has something slightly different in mind.

The subject here is not good versus evil, but a clash of ego and philosophy. The novel's villains are driven by fear, weakness, and self interest; its heroes by ambition and wonder. This complexity is what makes the novel a work of serious fiction, what prevents it from being an epic. Epics are fate-driven and rarely concerned with shades of motivation. Characters act because they must act, they must save the world or all is lost, etc., etc. Strange and Norrell want with everything they have to restore magic to England, to found a school of thought, to--well, many other things that I won't spoil--and even if the whole story has been foretold, even if it is fated, it is a story that stems from their intentions.

This is not my complaint. That it is not epic I find refreshing. That it is character-driven I find engaging. In a book about magic, about the re-awakening of mysticism, my complaint is that there is so very little that is spellbinding. Jonathan Strange in particular seems to be driven by his own imagination, and yet he seems limited and his spells tend to do little more that move things about.

The novel takes place during the Napoleonic Wars, and not long after the magicians present themselves to society, they become employed in fighting back the French. This leads to a scene suggesting great imagination, a port blockaded by ships, sails, and even a crew, all made of mist. Yet once on the ground, Mr. Strange finds himself mostly occupied by making roads and then tearing them up again. This may be useful, but for a magician it seems petty.

That said, Clarke handles the particulars of spell-casting rather well. As a matter of plot, the novel's magic must follow certain rules: Spells must have limitations, bad results must be possible and irreversible, there must be no "take-backs." This is why, in the classic short story "The Monkey's Paw," the father isn't allowed to wish never to have made any wishes--we as readers don't accept stories that "cheat" that way. In Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell, Clarke skirts on the edge of cheating (she allows resurrection), but never really falls in. There is also the danger that spell-casting will devolve into a game of Mornington Crescent, which is to say a conspiracy among the magicians to pretend each isn't speaking complete gibberish. This Clarke nearly overdoes.

You may have heard that this novel is, well, Harry Potter for adults. Don't believe it. It's true that Clarke shares a publisher with J.K. Rowling, and that Rowling's success almost certainly affected the publisher's interest in pushing this novel, but the two authors share very little in terms of style. Clarke's work is witty but cold, while Rowling's prose is anything but subtle and a great deal warmer. I'm not the first, I'm sure, to make this comparison: I can think of few writers Clarke's work more clearly resembles than Jane Austen. Considering the setting of this novel, however, that's probably deliberate.

The main task of a writer of fantasy is to construct a new and different world, and in this Clarke has succeeded. Her overwhelming footnotes, the dozens of side tales told by one character or another, the books and customs and politics of an England not quite as it is, but wholly consistent unto itself--these build a believable whole, they tell an engrossing story, they suggest perhaps something more.

There is talent here, a great deal of it. I believe, on the evidence of Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, that Susanna Clarke does have some great books in her. But for the time being, with this, her first novel, we'll have to settle for simply "good."

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  1. "adult fantasy novels"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    What, you mean like the Bible?

    1. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by cryptogryphon · · Score: 5, Funny

      a novel the bible is not, and it only rates adult 'cos of the sex.

    2. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by maxpublic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Only to those who can't laugh at themselves.

      Max

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    3. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by maxpublic · · Score: 3, Funny

      You fundamentalists have no sense of humor. When my wife took to calling the incredibly bloody "The Passion of the Christ" - y'know, the Mel Gibson schlock that recently came out - "The Jesus Christ Chainsaw Massacre" she got nothing but grief from Christians who got their panties in a wad over it.

      Absolutely no sense of humor when it comes to anything remotely connected to your religion.

      Max

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    4. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by ACPosterChild · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yep. Because, afterall, violence, vengence, and non-tolerance are all OK for kids to hear about. Boobies, on the other hand, are right out!

    5. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by Txiasaeia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      maybe you're misunderstanding the term "evangelical." There are three major branches in Christianity: Catholic, Protestant (lutheran, presbyterian and the like), and Evangelical (Baptist, Alliance, Mennonite, etc.) All of us are supposed to evangelise, but seriously, I've never actually heard somebody use the term "repent or go to hell, sinner!" used in all seriousness. I do have a peaceful religion; I don't usually evangelise unless somebody wants to, and I would definitely not condemn somebody for what they do - that's God's job. When I'm God, I'll judge others; until then, I'm just doing what Jesus asks of us: Love God & love your neighbour as yourself. I'm sorry if "my ilk" has offended you in the past.

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    6. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by Txiasaeia · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just to clarify: "When I'm God" was meant as hyperbole. I don't expect to ever become God. Okay, *now* flame away ;) We Christians are used to it, what with the lions & such.

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    7. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by Humpinate · · Score: 2, Funny

      HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!
      Man I haven't laughed that hard since Mississippi repealed Pi !!!!!

    8. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by Txiasaeia · · Score: 2, Informative
      Ah yes, the orthodox church. Must have just slipped my mind. Certainly, it's not a group that most NA Christians think about, despite the fact that there are some 50 million Orthodox Christians in the world ;) Sorry to not include them.

      As for the Coptic church: pretty much the same thing as the orthodox, but different words for the same concepts and different languages used. Pretty much the difference between Anglicans and Presbyterians, in other words (loosely). Anyway,from the Wiki: "Since the 1980s theologians from the two groups [orthodox & coptic churches] have been meeting in a bid to resolve the theological differences, and have concluded that many of the differences are caused by the two groups using different terminology to describe the same thing."

      I guess I kinda bunched the Catholics & Orthodox churches together - they *are* very similar, despite outward appearances, and have been holding talks since the 60's about mutual recognition of each other's "religion." I think the original schism was mainly political, so it's not like there are huge gaps in theology between the two groups. Obviously i'm thinking like a protestant/evangelical and not a catholic, eh? Sorry to have missed anybody.

      As for the "repent or go to hell, sinner!" comment: two different contexts. Jesus wasn't talking to "sinners," he was talking to his own disciples. He wasn't openly condemning somebody to hell, he was telling his guys what would happen if they didn't repent. This I hear a lot in church. But to actually go up to somebody and say to their face, "Repent or go to hell, sinner!"? That's pretty harsh. Never heard it used. Never.

      Sorry to throw this waaay off-topic. Lol - I guess I'm risking my karma for Jesus, aren't I? :)

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    9. Re:"adult fantasy novels"? by LaminatorX · · Score: 2, Informative
      I'd say that evangelical is more of an adjective than a proper noun. There are congregations in all the above faiths who walk the evangelical walk (the Catholics call them charismatics). I would also most certanly say that the Baptist church is very much Protestant. The Baptists and Anabaptists who died in Europe during the Thirty Years War stand in mute testament to their role in the Reformation.

      It looks like you may be going for some sort or High Church vs Common Church distinction there, but that's more of a liturgical difference than a theological one. Lutherans have more in common with Catholics (free will, holy communion) than Prespyterians (Calvinism, predestination etc) when you actually look at their doctrine.

  2. The job of the fantasy writer by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


    > The main task of a writer of fantasy is to construct a new and different world

    E.g., one where supermodels chase after Slashdotters in hopes of learning Linux and having their babies.

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  3. An encouraging thought to me by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "The subject here is not good versus evil, but a clash of ego and philosophy. The novel's villains are driven by fear, weakness, and self interest; its heroes by ambition and wonder. This complexity is what makes the novel a work of serious fiction, what prevents it from being an epic. Epics are fate-driven and rarely concerned with shades of motivation. Characters act because they must act, they must save the world or all is lost, etc., etc."

    Not only was this an excellent review (thank you for submitting it), but I found the above passage very encouraging on a personal level. I am writing a fantasy novel (or series of novels) based on what I, as a teen, found personally was my only real complaint about LoTR: I wanted more in-depth characterization. No, that's not entirely fair, for LoTR certainly has some in-depth characters, but you get the idea. I wanted to not write yet-another-fanboy-saves-the-world epic, but to explore on an adult level the sorts of emotions you or I would find ourselves if we were in that situation.

    I've written and edited the first book, over 400 pages, and now have started in on book two. I've queried a dozen literary agents who specialize in fantasy fiction, but I've yet to find one who is willing to even read a sample. They all sent back rejection notes that were remarkably similar: Too busy, best of luck with someone else.

    Oh well, I will keep trying. In the meantime, I'm very glad to hear that someone likes complexity, shades of motivation, adult-level emotional responses. That's been my exact goal, and if there is a market for a Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell book, there should be one for mine as well (I hope, anyway). Thanks for the encouragement, jmweeks, even though you didn't know that's what you were doing!

    1. Re:An encouraging thought to me by qbzzt · · Score: 4, Informative

      Try Baen. They do not require an agent, and they are looking for new authors.

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    2. Re:An encouraging thought to me by bgalehouse · · Score: 2, Informative
      Gene Wolfe has often written about what is involved in starting as a science fiction author. I believe the specific essays which I am thinking of are included in "Castle of Days".

      Anyway, there two bit of advice that I remember most clearly. Subject to memory error, the first is to try to publish some short stories first - less risk for the publisher, and then they know you. Second is to look for an agent once you've a letter of interest from a publisher. If they won't help you negotiate a deal with a publisher lined up and talking to you, then they won't help.

    3. Re:An encouraging thought to me by adam.skinner · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I had the desire to read another set of books that I had in my youth which had excellent character development. Do check out the Guardian's of the Flame series if you'd like some light, entertaining reading with quality characters.

    4. Re:An encouraging thought to me by nine-times · · Score: 2, Interesting
      OP:"...This complexity is what makes the novel a work of serious fiction, what prevents it from being an epic. Epics are fate-driven and rarely concerned with shades of motivation. Characters act because they must act, they must save the world or all is lost, etc., etc...."

      P: ...I am writing a fantasy novel (or series of novels) based on what I, as a teen, found personally was my only real complaint about LoTR: I wanted more in-depth characterization. No, that's not entirely fair, for LoTR certainly has some in-depth characters, but you get the idea....

      I would really say that this isn't fair to epics in general. I read LoTR as an adult, and I found the characters to be very deep at times. I don't think it would have been successful if the characters were all so simply acting out of necessity.

      I think what both you, and the original poster, might be doing (no offense) is mistaking writing style for depth. Writing has been shifting, for some time, towards more and more inner monologue and more explicit charactization by the narrator. In other words, books now tend to say what older books implied, but the same depth was implied. I might argue that the old writing styles are, in fact, more sophisticated, since I sometimes feel like modern authors are spoon-feeding me motivations and meaning far too often. However, it may be more related to our culture being more and more psychoanalytical with our use of language.

      At the very least, the hairs go up on the back of my neck when people start talking about characters from mythology and classic literature being flat and two-dimensional. Something strikes me as entirely wrong about that. Maybe it means you aren't reading carefully enough? Again, no personal offense intended.

    5. Re:An encouraging thought to me by Mateito · · Score: 2, Interesting
      try to publish some short stories first.

      This may be because, in the literary world, its generally said that everybody want's to be a poet. Those whoe can't write poetry, write short stories. Those who can't write short stories, write novels.

      The idea being that short stories are more difficult to write than novels. You have relatively small amount of space to present your story, it has to have an impact, and you can't explicitly build in the back story.

      As many novels have shown, especially in Sci-Fi, you can run to 600, 700... 1000 pages. Its a different art-form. A lot of them are crap.

      Start writing short stories. It will help you, in the long run, to be a good novelist.

    6. Re:An encouraging thought to me by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I appreciate what you are saying, and I even tried to modify my original thought in the post. Absolutely there are fully fleshed-out characters in classic literature, and that includes LoTR. What I wanted to do was expand some areas. For example, the southern armies that came at Sauron's call at the end of the Third Age: What was their motivation? Didn't they think they were doing something good and right? Or were they just "evil"? I wanted to explore the paradox of an organization that does evil things while being made up of individuals convinced they were doing the right thing.

      I want to explore the very idea of power and corruption, and whether it is possible to separate the two (probably not), and so what should one do with that knowledge when the opportunity for power comes along.

      I also wanted to give female characters equal time, so it's not nine men doing all the work with the women helping here and there and then showing up at the end (Eowyn, excepted, of course).

      So I'm not trashing LoTR or classic literature by any means. I LOVE classic literature. I just wanted to add my own two cents to the ocean of stories.

  4. Well written review by keshto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For once, it was a well-written review, devoid of either childing errors or put-on verbiage.

    However, I think his final grade for the book ("good") is too harsh. Having read the description that he gave before that, I'd have gone for somewhere between "very good" to "excellent".
  5. A picture's worth a 10^3 words... by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you've been in any chain book store this month, you've seen its emblem--the raven in flight, the big swirling ampersand.

    Screenshot of book cover below:
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  6. Are there text differences between the editions? by jjsaul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When you say there is a black and a white edition, you're not saying textual differences like in The Dictionary of the Khazars, right?

  7. Fantasy reflect real life? by OutHouse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Mr. Norrell's purpose is to restore magic to England, provided it is studied and practiced under his terms, and preferably by no one but him. Jonathan Strange, a young man who stumbles upon magic on a whim, who is to become Norrell's colleague, student, and adversary, has something slightly different in mind. " Speculation here - I haven't read the book... but this almost sounds like proprietary versus open source type of argument???

    1. Re:Fantasy reflect real life? by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, clearly Strange stole secrets of Mr. Norrell's magic and is simply wishes to spread them to the masses without authorization.

      -Darl

  8. Re:Sounds worth a try by tanguyr · · Score: 4, Informative

    "A Game of Thrones" by George R.R. Martin. You won't regret it.

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  9. Sounds like a good book, by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But maybe you would have better success if it wasn't a fantasy novel. If you really want to explore on an adult level the sorts of emotions you or I would find ourselves if we were in that situation. you need to place us in a position that isn't difficult to grasp. What I'm saying is that often in fantasy or scifi books the superfoulous crap thats put in (Technological devices in scifi, wizards and magic in fantasy) gets in the way of exploring those emotions.

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  10. Jane Austin style admitted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    In an interview by KPCC-FM, the NPR station in Pasadena, California, the author said that she was in Southern California to give a book reading at "Book Soup." She admitted that she deliberately emulated the style of Jane Austin, and set the novel in exactly the time period that Austenites are used to. She did say that more happens in it, world-wise, than in Jane Austin. She also denied any interest in doing her own screenplay, or even meeting any Hollywood people. "My agent handles that." She said. She wants to concentrate on writing her second novel, which is not a sequel or prequel. -- Professor Jonathan Vos Post
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  11. Stolen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I work at a small bookstore in a local mall part-time, and we had three copies of this book. Personally, I had never heard of it before, and the cover is very nondescript. The book itself is rather large, and every one came shrink wrapped (which I thought was bizarre). My manager put them out on the shelf this way.

    One week after we got them, all three had been stolen. It would be a task, to say the least, to get that book in particular out of the store without anyone noticing (i.e. it was a bit awkward to handle). We were all confused by the fact that we'd never heard of it, and assumed it wouldn't be "popular".

    Was there any sort of build up or fanfare for this book before it was released? Or were our copies stolen by one diligent person? :P

  12. My elevator pitch... by cmpalmer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm about a third of the way through it now, so I can't give a full review, but I am enjoying it greatly. I bought it after reading about it on Neil Gaiman's blog, which is what inspired my elevator pitch for the book (when my wife asked what it was like):

    "It's like Jane Austin or Charles Dickens writing a Neil Gaiman book about English magicians."

    As others have opined, the style is deliberately (and so far, convincingly) Victorian. Lots of subtle characters who hide their feelings motivations from each other; lots of characters, period (I've almost had to start taking notes when minor characters from Chapter 1 show up 150 pages later); no sex, violence, or profanity (so far, I think, one "D---"); and many footnotes (some which run 80% of the page for 4 pages!).

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  13. Read it before you comment by fjvanniekerk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This book is good and is worth the money. You will not need to re-read it in two years when you need the space on your wall. The advertising budget is very large for this book and the reviewer should state his allegiances as I suspect some viral advertising.

    Extract from Economist "Bloomsbury is now launching it with its biggest ever marketing budget for a single book."

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  14. in progress... by tgibbs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not yet halfway, so this is not yet a review.

    I'm definitely hooked. It was quite slow in starting, and very mannered in style, but the sly humor kept me reading. Many of the "scholarly" footnotes are wonderful little fantasy vignettes. For a book about magic, there is a great deal of people talking about magic and very little of them doing it. But the magical scenes, when they occur, are quite satisfyingly magical.

  15. You seem to be setting a high standard by gonerill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can think of few writers Clarke's work more clearly resembles than Jane Austen. ... Susanna Clarke does have some great books in her. But for the time being, with this, her first novel, we'll have to settle for simply "good."

    So what you're saying is, to merit a grade of, say, "very good" from you I'd have to write better than Jane Austen?

  16. Re:Consider "simple" magic... by MichaelFree · · Score: 2, Funny
    "...it would also be one of the grated "finds" in history."
    Telekinetic cheese?
  17. Whee! (Re:"adult fantasy novels"?) by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What, you mean like the Bible?

    Whee! Such hilarious, sophisticated humor :) And so original; nothing like it on /. or in pop culture ...

    But seriously, have a read. You might rethink things:

    The Bible (NIV)

  18. Re:Good review. by julesh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find the comparisons with Neil Gaiman interesting, because according to an interview I read with the author a while back, Gaiman was instrumental in getting the book published -- IIRC, the author's writing instructor was a friend of his and sent him a copy, which he forwarded to his editor, who went on to buy it.