Super-Fast Dual-Layer DVD Writing

An anonymous reader writes "If you've been putting off buying a dual layer DVD burner because they're so slow, check this out. The latest NEC drive burns dual-layer disks at 4x, writing over 8gb in 25 minutes. It also burns-single layer disks at 16x on both formats."

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Super FASTER Dual-Layer DVD Writing

[Anonymous Coward]

Toshiba just introduced the SD-R5372 with 5x dual layer writing.

What I want to know is when more of these drives will start coming out with Serial ATA interfaces. Yes, they don't need the speed, but it would be nice to buy new drives in the format they're migrating to for other reasons.

Re:Super FASTER Dual-Layer DVD Writing

[Dark Lord Seth]

The speeds aren't the greatest advantages of SATA so far. What's best is the nicely thing cables. I'd like to see SATA connections on optical drives solely because it would be easier then to wire things up inside. Even rounded IDE cables are clumsy because they are still very thick and hard to bend.

Re:Super FASTER Dual-Layer DVD Writing

[jnana]

Better still in firefox: highlight the link, then right-click and select "view selection source". It will just show the source for what you've highlighted, so you don't have to search through a massive document.

Re:Super FASTER Dual-Layer DVD Writing

[Phexro]

The Plextor PX-712SA is a SATA DVD burner.

Doesn't mention DL burning, but there's at least one company offering them. $40 more than the ATA drive, though.

Re:Super FASTER Dual-Layer DVD Writing

[dioxide]

So shouldn't we be able to buy Optical drives and HDD for use in *external* boxes at a reasonable price? At present, external drives always cost ~100% more than an internal version... which is a shame as an external HDD would be nice for backups but given that I'd need something bigger in approx. 12 to 18 months, I prefer not to pay an arm and a leg!

It is FAR cheaper to make your own external than to buy one premade by WD or Maxtor, etc. Check newegg, you can buy a OEM hard drive, and a usb2 or firewire external chassis for about the same price as a retail drive at CompUSA or BestBuy.

As a side note, I very much do not trust the shitty drives that come inside premade externals. I've had far better luck buying oem 7200rpm drives with 8mb cache and dropping it inside a chassis. Our shop has seen a good two times more premades die than built, however I cannot say its because theyre shittier, or because the people that build their own take better care of their equipment.

I've got one

[Buelldozer]

This drive rocks! It's quiet, fast, and I've flashed the firmware to make it both region free AND faster than factory.

Newegg for $77, what could be better?

Re:I've got one

[sqrt(2)]

Anyone else interested in making your drive region free should go here

Re:Quality of write?

[markus_baertschi]

The extensive DVD-writer & media tests in CT I've been reading show that almost all DVD-writers have quality problems when writing faster than 2x. Media quality is a big problem and you have to find which media your writer happens to like.

I think this is an even greater problem then the DVD+/- controversy. Most writers write both these days, you know hat you get before you buy. But many media/writer combinations have quality problems and here you don't know if you'll get a usable result in advance.

Markus

Re:Pioneer DVR-108 does the same

[boldi]

Yeah, and my dvr-108 is already installed in my computer for weeks. so what is the news about 4x DL writing?

Re:Prices for blank dual layers

[Anonymous Coward]

Well according to this article: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/129

According to Philips the production of the media should not be much more complicated than the production of current dual layer DVD-ROM discs. Mrs. Harpe of Philips Consumer Electronics says: "It's too early to be specific about prices. However, we can say that the production process of dual layer DVD+R is similar to DVD9 production.

So sounds groundless to me.

Re:Quality of write?

[darth_silliarse]

Using tools such as DVD Decrypter which can verify the disc after burning will help there, I've been using it with much success for the past 9 months...

Hey Look!!

[Anonymous Coward]

only $372 for a 30 pack of dvd-r dual layer disks. http://www.meritline.com/dl-dvd-r-dual-double-laye r-verbatim.html what a bargain.

Re:Great but what about BD-DVD???

[LocalH]

Sony already has Blu-Ray writers. Unfortunately, I only know of one current application for them, and that is in the realm of professional video production. Sony's line of XDCAM equipment uses a form of Blu-Ray technology. To quote:

• The new XDCAM disks include 23.3 GB of storage capacity as well as random access file selection. The disk itself is housed in a rugged plastic case that increases durability far beyond the normal DVD. Worthy of note is the differentiation between the blue-violet lasers used in the XDCAM and the Blu-ray laser technology found in consumer DVD products. XDCAM is one of the first commerical Blu-ray technology products to be announced. The XDCAM format makes use of a phase-change recording material to increase read/write speeds and also allows access by two simultaneous pickups.

Re:Anyone use this in a G5?

[hoytt]

Toast 6.07 (a free update from Toast 6) added support for DVD-DL. Too bad I got a LG drive in my G5 and not a Pioneer 108.

Re:Quality of write?

[Alorelith]

LiteOn DVD burners have a major problem with DVD-R media, in my experience. I have to verify EVERYTHING I burn with my remaining DVD-R media. All the +R stuff I get works the first time, and it's not even TY, just RICOHJPN (which is admittedly not too bad). So either you are using -R media, your drive is bad, or your media is iffy (hard to believe for TY).

Re:Quality of write?

[The Vulture]

You may have fake Taiyo Yuden media.

Apparently there are lots of fake Taiyo Yuden discs circulating. They have the same media code (TYG02) as the real discs, but the discs are of inferior quality, and definitely not made by TY.

The same thing happened back when 2x drives were popular, there were some companies (mainly Princo) who used TDK's media code, so that they could trick the burners into burning the discs at 2x. The only problem is that most of these discs were awful even at 1x, and you'd wind up with coasters.

I recently ordered some inkjet-printable 8x Taiyo Yuden discs from rima.com, and my new Pioneer DVR-A08XL burns them at 12x (no hacks involved, Pioneer set them to burn at 12x in the default media table - I guess Pioneer feels that the media is that good, and TY paid their money). I ran them through Nero CD/DVD Speed and got a perfect speed line.

Also, it could be your drive, you didn't mention whether or not your TYs are +R or -R, but I've heard it said by quite a few people that the LiteOn drives tend to prefer +R media.

-- Joe

Re:It's the media, not the drive.

[Anonymous Coward]

While your comment may be interesting, it's also demonstrative of the fact that we need a "-1 bad grammar" mod option.

1. No punctuation (A comma after "agree" might've been good)
2. you wanted "paying" or probably "with paying" and not simply "pay"
3. 10-pack; is it so hard to check your spelling?
4. than, not then.
5. Sentences end with periods.

Re:Sony to announce experimental 8 layer 200 GB ..

[Anonymous Coward]

Nah, all high density storage devices have extensive error correction. The higher the capacity, the more error correction they throw at the problem. Minor scratches probably won't result in data loss, especially if data is arranged on the disc to minimize the loss caused by localized damage (for example, by spreading the ECC around the disc).