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Does Your LCD Play Catch-Up To Your Mouse?

Dishes of Ryan writes "I fell in love with the idea of an LCD monitor, so I ended up buying a nice, shiny Dell 2001FP. However, nowhere, and I mean *nowhere* did I read about LCDs having an input lag on them. For instance, if I scoot the mouse across the screen, there is a noticeable delay between when I move the mouse and when the cursor moves. To prove it to people, made a video showing exactly what I mean. You can almost forget being king of the hill on twitch FPS games like Unreal Tournament. Are there any other Slashdotters out there that are as annoyed as I am? What did you do?"

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  1. In a word by Mantorp · · Score: 2, Funny

    No

  2. Re:hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    60Hz or 60Hz? Hmm, I bet he's using 60Hz.

  3. If I can't play, nobody can! by Nuclear+Elephant · · Score: 4, Funny

    What did you do?

    I posted a 800K movie of it on Slashdot so I could suck up all the Internet's available bandwidth and make everyone else's game run at the same fps as mine. =)

  4. What did you do? by Threni · · Score: 2, Funny

    Use a CRT at home, for games, DVD etc, and an LCD at work, where I edit text/graphics etc, and don't have to pay for my own hardware.

    If I wanted to see a bunch of trails behind stuff whenever it moved, I'd take acid.

  5. You could get a physic mouse... by mongoose(!no) · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...that would predict how you move the mouse before hand to make up for the lag.

  6. As an audiophile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    As an audiophile I can tell you the bottleneck is your crappy cable. By using the $650 gold plated gold constructor Xview jumper cables for all line-level connections in my rig, and not skipping on the "burn in" I get a fast mouse response (Now waiting for my Xview 22 cables back from Seatlle Labs "fusion" burn in process so the bits SPEED DOWN TO THE LCD even faster.

    Also working on a WOOD resonator tube to place the cable in, directly 2 feet (stretched taunt to streamline signal) so extra force is "boosting" the mouse signal. Considering an q-entanglement setup, but it's costly. Pointer on screen should move .049 picoseconds before my hand.

  7. brrrrrinnnnggggg .... by jdkane · · Score: 4, Funny
    /.TS> Yes hello, Slashdot Tech Support speaking. How may I help you today?

    DoR> Um, my mouse lags on my Dell LCD.

    /.TS> That's what we're here for. News for Nerds, Stuff that matters. Try installing Linux and then get back to us with the results.

    DoR> How's that gonna' help?

    /.TS> Sorry, you're Offtopic -1. I see a better story coming along. Good bye and thank you for calling.

    1. Re:brrrrrinnnnggggg .... by gosand · · Score: 2, Funny
      .TS> Yes hello, Slashdot Tech Support speaking. How may I help you today?

      DoR> Um, my mouse lags on my Dell LCD.

      /.TS> That's what we're here for. News for Nerds, Stuff that matters. Try installing Linux and then get back to us with the results.

      DoR> How's that gonna' help?

      /.TS> Sorry, you're Offtopic -1. I see a better story coming along. Good bye and thank you for calling.
      ... 5 minutes later ....

      .TS> Yes hello, Slashdot Tech Support speaking. How may I help you today?


      DoR> Um, I have a new Dell LCD, and my mouse lags.

      /.TS> Hmm, let me look in our knowledge base. I have never seen anyone ask this question before. Let's see... Have you tried installing Linux?

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  8. video-card inputs by cbr2702 · · Score: 5, Funny
    One monitor runs off of my video card's digital input, and the other monitor runs off of the card's analog input.

    You might get even better results if you tried using the video card's outputs.

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  9. "posted by timothy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    'nuff said.

    1. Re:"posted by timothy" by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 3, Funny

      And soon to be duped by Commander Taco.

  10. Re:Need a different monitor by bsartist · · Score: 3, Funny

    What does your sig do?

    It encourages you to learn C. :-)

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  11. I will trade you my 20'' crt for your lcd problem by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, will even throw in shipping. :)

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  12. ANSWER: Virus or Spyware by reporter · · Score: 2, Funny
    I had a similar problem. The response to my pressing my keyboard keys was unusually slow. Then, I downloaded some spyware eradication software from CNET. It eradicated some spyware with which a visit to a porn site had inadvertently infected my computer.

    Everything is normal now.

    The problem with the victim's computer is not a bad display driver. The problem is spyware or a virus.

    My advice is to stop visiting those porn sites unless "Playboy Magazine" has certified them.

  13. "lag" has entered the vernacular by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I love it how because of the widespread popularity of computer gaming, the notion of "lag" is ascribed to everything like

    Teacher: Where's your quiz?
    student: Pencil lag

    or

    jogger: 5 miles...whew...getting...breath lag

    or even

    Doctor: Yes, you have constipation
    patient: oh, turd lag, gotcha

  14. MOD PARENT UP A BILLION FUNNY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Slashdot" and "unbiased journalism" in the same sentence!! COMEDY GOLD GOOD SIR

  15. Video is dead... but... by gt25500 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have this monitor (2001FP) and so does my pal. I also have several other LCDs around the house. Your problem is either not the monitor is is an isolated issue.

    Can I get my problem posted on Slashdot the next time I am constipated?

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  16. Dude..... by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dude, no human has reflexes like that.

    You're either:
    a) Not human
    b) Jedi
    c) Stoned/Drunk

    Go become a fighter pilot or something like that.

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  17. Re:What is this, a newsgroup?!?!? by scottking · · Score: 5, Funny

    if i had to choose between /. and Dell for tech support, no contest, i'd be posting.

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  18. Dell ? bwahahahahahahahahahahahah ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Be "cheap" in your buying habits, and you get what you deserve.

    You have bought junk, now live with your decision or pay up
    to upgrade.

  19. Re:Moderators on drugs? by tarth · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't you mean "I was an IT director back in 1996 when LCDs were still shitty, but since then I've been fired off because I'm an antagonistic and self-important fuckwad"?

  20. Re:Reader Reviews by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Funny

    *Maybe Slashdot could start a hardware review section and do some unbiased hard journalism!*

    how would it help with the problem of getting misinformation from clueless people who heard couple of cyberlegends, didn't read to the end of the blurb and never opened a computer in their life?

    speaking of which, 80% of the comments under this article alone are totally clueless as to the what the actual problem was that the guy was having and as a consequence tell him to check the batteries on the mouse and shit like that because they refuse(not even think of ) the possibility that theres some delay caused possibly by the tft screens internal electronics(in chips that it uses to make the rgb analog signal viewable for example) or some such.

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  21. Oops, sorry by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sorry, that's my keylogger that's causing the lag; it's writing all your keyboard inputs directly to my web server instead of logging and uploading the log, and that's slowing down your system.

    Please type "updateme" on your keyboard, and that will tell the keylogger to automatically update itself. Once it's updated, you shouldn't notice any lag at all.

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  22. Re:Need a different monitor by nule.org · · Score: 2, Funny

    The poster doesn't need a different monitor - he or she just needs a shorter monitor cable. It's taking way too long for the electrons to reach the screen.

  23. Re:Need a different monitor by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll take a poor CRT over a good LCD anyday.

    I'd take the good LCD, sell it, and buy 2 good CRTs, and a motorcycle.

  24. My god, man - do know what you're suggesting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Again, moderators, stop giving mod points to idiots!

    Slashdot as we know it would cease to exist!

    Slashdot - where else you can be utterly wrong and get hailed as informative and insightful? Yeah, yeah - I meant besides FOX news.

  25. Re:Um, no. by suckmysav · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The guy needs to do some other tests - if he brings up a window and types, do the characters appear to be delayed too?"



    Reminds me of a guy who bought his dot-matrix printer in for repair twice because it would not print the letter K. No amount of testing was enough to convince him that this was simply not possible. It turned out his keyboard had a faulty K key, and the K was not appearing on his screen either.

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  26. Re:Need a different monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    He doesn't need a different monitor, just a better cable.

    Dell use standard copper cable.

    Just as with audio equipment, LCD's need quality signals to produce the best results. As any audiophile will tell you, you need a minimum of high purity oxygen-free copper cable, and you need to make sure its shielded properly. It also helps if its a thick bundle of uninsulated copper strands per conductor. Don't use PVC as an insulator because the dielectric properties are all wrong, you need something like teflon.

    Try something like this:
    Shunyata Research Andromeda Speaker Cable
    MSRP: $ 2995.00
    Certified CDA-101 copper, 4x4 matrix geometry, 8 conductors of 14AWG, aggregate 8AWG cross-section, cryogenically treated on site.
    That should stop the lag.

    I can't get that exact product, but let me know and I'll get you something similar for the price. :-)

  27. Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    Re:got the message yet? :-) (Score:1) by Man in Spandex (775950)

    Followed by:

    - a slick look. no gay speakers.

    "Man in spandex" makes perjorative reference to homosexuality... methinks we have someone with some serious identity issues here. It's okay brother, embrace your inner woman...

  28. Re:Cursor "Submarining" by tincho_uy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, maybe he has, like, a reeeaally loooonng cable...

  29. Re:Need a different monitor by sparklehackery · · Score: 3, Funny

    > I feel lucky that a monitor at 60hz normally looks fine to me

    And all those opticians and spectacle manufacturers worldwide feel lucky too.

  30. No K by mopslik · · Score: 5, Funny

    It turned out his keyboard had a faulty K key, and the K was not appearing on his screen either.

    And thus the GNOME project was born...

  31. Geek eye-workouts by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Funny

    When the resolution is set to 60Hz which is the lowest, the screen flickers. That is a fact.

    I know. BTW, you think that's bad? The first computer I used was a ZX81 (Timex/Sinclair 1000 with 1K) attached to a PAL TV. Which has a 50Hz refresh rate... and black-on-white text.

    If what you say is true, this explains why my eyes are fucked. OTOH, it could be that all the exercise makes your eye muscles stronger, like going down to the gym.

    "Yeah, I *did* know that my display can go higher than 60Hz; I'm giving my eyes a workout. I'm doing a drop-set. When they can't take 60Hz any longer, I'll turn it up to 65Hz, then 72Hz... See that guy over there with the black-and-white TV with no vertical hold and bottleful of protein shake? He's the Mr.Universe of the eyeball world. I swear it's true."

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