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George Soros Speaks Politics

horos2c writes "Hey all, the philanthropic billionaire George Soros has tossed his two cents worth in about the election and about Bush's policies overall. Even from an apolitical point of view its an interesting read, that's for sure. He both speaks clearly and has a hell of a lot to say."

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  1. Inspirational Words by rueger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Of late it has concerned me that many of my friends in the Unted States feel that there is no way to escape the current political regime. They see the boys dying every day in Iraq, the rapid and ongoing decline in the world opinion of their country, and watch polls that seem to show that four more years of Bush are coming.

    Politicians these days will never, ever make strong stands on anything that the pollsters suggest might cost votes. Only greed and a thirst for power matter to most of them.

    It is good that there are people like Soros who will stand up and speak their minds.

    1. Re:Inspirational Words by JMandingo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And yet ijits everywhere say that without a hint of sarcasm, and turn right around and cheer for Kerry. Mind you, you never specifically say you like him, so you might be an exception, but what about the rest of those that think Kerry will be any better?

      I am a Republican, and I will be voting for Kerry. Most of my Republican friends and family feel the same. None of us like Kerry, but we figure that you could put a block of wood into office and it would do a better (or at least a more honest) job than Dubya.

      What stuns me is that Bush still maintains a lead in the poles. I guess that proves that anecdotes (like mine above) are just about meaningless stacked up against "the herd". I'm doing my part and nagging the hell out of my few idjit friends who are staunch Bush supporters.

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  2. Re:What A Horrible Summary.. by TykeClone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not to mention that the two cents he's kicked into the campaign so far are many millions of dollars more than $0.02.

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  3. Soros the rich commie by dh003i · · Score: 4, Interesting
    See Inside Sorros.Rockwell, Llewellyn H., Jr. .
    Desperate for hard currency and facing a fiscal crisis, the Russian government guaranteed wildly high returns on its debt instruments. Believing that Russia would never be allowed to fail, Soros took huge positions in its bonds.

    His conversion to the cause of financial socialism began as Congress refused to bailout Russia, and Soros's fund started bearing the weight of margin calls. Eventually, the losses would total $2 billion. His new book admits that he burned up the phonelines calling for governments to loot their taxpayers on his behalf, with additional panicked calls to central bankers and finance officials to pressure them into doing so.

    Soros made the wrong bet, lost one of his shirts, and turned against capitalism. He believed himself to be the most powerful man in the world. It turned out that there is something more powerful, which is the market itself.

    So Soros, the new poster child of the left, turns out to be nothing more than a disgruntled rich guy tired of the risks that made him wealthy.

    Soros makes a few good points: we shouldn't have invaded Iraq. However, he concedes too much: we shouldn't have invaded Afghanistan either. I'd suggest anyone who wants to take a serious look at our history of internation interventionism read: A History of Folly. Young, Adam.
  4. Re:Why can't I get rid of the POLITICS SECTION? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Yep. Both have already been selected. So has "republican" and "democrat".

    Yet there are still half a dozen POLITICS: articles on the front page.

  5. He appears to be a decent guy. by Sevn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    His words are simple and well spoken. His point of view isn't extreme. It's a very common point of view these days. He has done some very impressive things around the world in the name of freedom. There is definitely a need to discredit someone this valuable to our society if you don't like what they have to say. Look at how Clarke went from hard right wing conservative to branded bleeding heart liberal in a matter of weeks. You have to respect him for putting his money where his mouth is. It's not like he stands to make a fortune. He's just doing what he thinks is right, and he's determined to win because he thinks it's that important. I am a Conservative, but I respect that a great deal.

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  6. Re:Don't Like It? Refute it! by real_smiff · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You say "Soros is a tool" is a valid opinion, but don't expect someone reading that to agree with you. When I read a three word opinion with poor English and no reasoning, i'm more likely to think the poster is a "tool". Now I, not being American and perhaps not too well read, had never heard of this guy. but after reading this article and a few comments like this, i'm thinking he's most likely right. Show me why he's not. If you don't care what i think, why are you posting here. All you do with comments like that is damage your "cause".

    Btw, no one said he's a philosopher (including himself) he was introduced as a self-made billionaire with some political opinions.

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  7. Re:All liberal, All the time by nickjl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe instead of complaining about Slashdot bias, you could try and respond to the posted article?

  8. Re:let me get this straight? by dh003i · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let me try to be clear...

    1. All States engage in thievery and robbery. This is known as inflation and taxation, respectively.

    2. Purchasing a State-bond is, in itself, an act of robbery -- you are conspiring with the State to steal from the taxpayers.

    3. Thus, certainly, asking the State to bail you out $2 billion is attempted robbery.

    4. The article merely analyzes what he's done. Actions are more important than words.

    5. The fact that he does lots of charity work does not in any way justify trying to steal from others.

    6. This whole comparison with our cabinet members thing is irrelevant. I don't deny that they're all crooks, along with everyone else in the State (except for Ron Paul, and a few others), by definition, because their salary comes from robbery and thievery. You don't seem to understand the enormously destructive nature of taxes, State-loans, and (worst of all) inflation.

    7. Attempting to get States to loot their tax-payers to the tune of $2 billion to bail out a poor decision on your part certainly is lining your pockets at other people's expenses.

  9. Perhaps by abulafia · · Score: 2, Interesting
    One of the few ways to speak your mind with more than a few listening to you is to be rich and not running for office.

    Being a Rosa Parks takes a lot of luck (if you can call it that), and you can't pick your timing.

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    1. Re:Perhaps by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One of the few ways to speak your mind with more than a few listening to you is to be rich and not running for office.

      This is so true. People wonder why Hollywood celebrities are so leftist, hate America, etc. because actresses and rock stars are always seen conspicuously bashing the president. You hear theories about some leftist cult that's taken over Hollywood, etc.

      A much simpler explanation is that these are the loudest non-corporate opinions that the average citizen is likely to hear.

  10. Re:All liberal, All the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'm a "fellow conservative and Republican" and paid-in-full member of the California Republican League. And I wouldn't vote for Bush if you paid me to.

    Why? Because he isn't a Republican. His policies both inside and outside the U.S. are the most damaging for the country in my lifetime (which predates JFK).

    It an't a 'left' or 'right' thing. Its a don't increase federal spending to the highest levels and generate the most massive debt in history thing: and still try to pass yourself off as a Republican.

    Its a don't be a grotesque crony thing: which is ugly no matter who is trying to sell that slime.

    Its a don't wallpaper over your utter lack of diplomacy and persuasion skills with a moronic lets-go-alone policy. To lead you must convince others to follow. Instead, he has created the most divided nation since Vietnam and stupidly and arrogantly squandered goodwill worldwide in exchange for cooperation via threats.

    None of this is intelligent, none of it is shrewed -- and worst of all, it is expensive and largly ineffective.

    I'm a Republican, and Bush is an embarassment to my Republican family. He's like the Ted Kennedy of Republicans, the only one left after the good, smart ones were killed.

    The social right-wingers and evangelical freaks need to find their own party so that the Republican party can get back to fiscal restraint and small government.

  11. Re:Basis for Soros' philosophy: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The Clintons and many of the people that served in Bill's Administration were at least influenced by Karl Popper, which is why I think the Democrats during the 90's were so confusing to many in the far-left.

    Yea, "confusing" is certainly the word. I'm a Republican who has to vote Democrat to reign in runaway federal spending, massive debt, huge corporate welfare, and sick cronyism. Tell me about being confused...

  12. Voting third party will hurt you by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I am just saying you shouldn't buy Kerry's Vaporware, your best interests would be served by voting either independent or Green or Liberatarian (Which is my party of choice and my suggestion to you). Yes, if you live in a swing state, your vote going to Nader(I) or Badnarik(L) could result in Bush winning that state and most likely being re-elected, but you win in the sense that in 2008 the DNC is more likely to listen to you.

    This is wrong, and generally hurts those who listen to you.

    If you were right -- that the DNC would flip over to Nader or Badnarik supporters in the next election -- you would already see things happening. Nader's presence in Florida in 2000 was what gave Bush the election, and we have a down-to-the-wire election this year. You can't ask for a better scenario for convincing the Demms to listen to Nader demands. However, it clearly isn't happening, as evidenced by your discontent with Kerry. So your philosophy of "throw away your vote as a protest" clearly is ineffectual. The *actual* impact of throwing away your vote is to give one vote to those who prefer the candidate you most dislike of the Big Two.

    No, I don't like the current system, but I'm realistic. Preferential or instant run-off or another form of vote reform getting pushed through is the *only* way that third parties will ever become significant under the American voting system. I'd support that wholeheartedly. But voting for a third party in the election is just throwing away your vote. There's no point in throwing tantrums about the existing election system -- it doesn't accomplish what you want. The election scheme isn't a forum (or at least an effective one) -- it's a place to choose the next President of the United States. If you choose not to take advantage of it, you simply hurt yourself.

    Do the smart thing. Vote for your favorite of the two major candidates, and then push for vote reform so that your favorite of *all* the candidates actually has a serious shot at the White House.

  13. Soros is not good for 2nd Ammendment Rights by Clanner · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I may or may not disagree with some of Soros' views regarding Bush (who I am not a big fan of, by the way), one major issue I have with Soros is his support and funding for the various anti-2nd Ammendment groups out there. Groups such as the Million Mom March (more like the 1000 Mom March, but whatever), the Brady Center (formerly Handgun Control Inc.), etc. Soros is also a big supporter of a proposed UN Treaty that would outlaw private ownership of firearms.

    I simply cannot support anyone who is so vehemently opposed to my Rights as a US citizen.

    I noticed though that his thoughts on anything other than Bush or Iraq aren't posted on his website. I wonder if he's trying to hide his other political views because they aren't as popular as his anti-Bush stance...

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