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George Soros Speaks Politics

horos2c writes "Hey all, the philanthropic billionaire George Soros has tossed his two cents worth in about the election and about Bush's policies overall. Even from an apolitical point of view its an interesting read, that's for sure. He both speaks clearly and has a hell of a lot to say."

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  1. Re:Don't Like It? Refute it! by thoughtterrorist · · Score: 0, Troll

    Ok, you asked nicely and intelligently and I suspect you may be not a troll, so I'll just throw some stuff out there for you: "President Bush ran on the platform of a 'humble' foreign policy in 2000." Hellooooo, 9/11, non-compliance with UN resolutions, etc. This guy is basically saying that since Bush didn't want to invade before he had a good reason, he should not have wanted to after he got a good reason (9/11 and Saddam's non-compliance giving us sufficient reason to believe he was a threat being the good reasons). "If we re-elect him now, we endorse the Bush doctrine of preemptive action and the invasion of Iraq, and we will have to live with the consequences." The consequence is that young women are no longer thrown into wood chippers and rooms that drip acid every few inches for political crimes, there will be no more mass graves for political dissidents, etc. "As I shall try to show, we are facing a vicious circle of escalating violence with no end in sight." He throws around a lot of meaningless words about a situation that requires real resolve. I want to sing kumbaya with the terrorists too but it ain't going to happen, and I'm not about to sit around while they try to kill us either. "But if we repudiate the Bush policies at the polls, we shall have a better chance to regain the respect and support of the world and to break the vicious circle." This borders on being his oppinion, but he wants us to accept it as a fact so I'll dispute it as such (some people just can't help but to try to have their cake and eat it too). Respect from people who will not act to defend us means very little to me (and I should hope the rest of us), justice means much more. Removing tyrrants from power means more to me than the friendship of France, who should be our friends anyway. And there is no evidence whatsoever that any violence against us will stop if we change our foreign policy. Osama and Saddam's non-compliance are responsible for this latest round, are we supposed to just take 9/11 on the chin to see if it breaks the cycle? What if that doesn't work, then we take another on the chin, and so on? There's a word for that, it's called "sucker". Leftists always want us to think we caused this and we caused that, and poor other countries are always just picked on. Why don't they take it on the chin and break the cycle of violence? No answer for that, they just must always be allowed to attack and we must always take it on the chin, because that's what's right. As you can see it would take me a year to write about everything wrong with this guys opinion (and that was his aim, to make so much garbage that no one in their right mind would waste time rebutting it all), see take this: "When George W. Bush was elected president, and particularly after September 11, I saw that the values and principles of open society needed to be defended at home." If I rebut this article but not this sentence, then most people would automatically subconsiously assume it was right and I was incapable of rebutting it. If I rebut every sentence that is wrong with this article I will be here until the election writing on it. Just because it's wrong doesn't mean it's no work to think of a bulletproof rebuttal to it. But if you seriously want rebuttals to his arguments, list specific ones you are concerned about, but not a whole bunch, nobody has time. Or check out some right leaning blogs, imo they are much more clear about what is opinion and what is fact that the other side, and way less emotional. Just my opinion, disagree but don't troll me leftists..

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