Wow - where have you been. OpenBSD has been shipping a "release song" for as long as I can remember... Many of them are funny, most of them cover rather serious topics - none of them are works of art that should ever be played in public.
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Re:Its a trick, its COUNTRY!
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ak3ldama
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· Score: 2, Insightful
haha, yea, but it's actually a pretty damn good tune, with good lyrics, in the true style of classic country... very much unlike country (current country that is, which is more like pop)
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Man that's piss funny.
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QuantumG
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· Score: 4, Funny
Gotta love the way the Theo fish just goes nuts at the end and starts yelling at everyone. Someone needs to make a blowfish cartoon where other fish get into morally dubious situations and the Theo fish just comes in and tells em they're all idiots and if they don't contribute to his project then this'll be the last release.
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Re:Its a trick, its COUNTRY!
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T-Ranger
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· Score: 5, Funny
My name is su(1). How do you do?
Now you're gonna die.
I don't understand your surprise. Some software companies even have their own music videos.
On a more serious note, I somewhat repulsed that a person would find a project release song repuslive. The repulsion is what I'd expect from the PHB sort. To me, having a song illustrates wonderfully the difference between Free Software/OSS communities and the corporate world. In the one world, creativity is stifled because creativity is often inefficient and non-productive, while in the other, creativity (the human spirit) is the entire purpose.
Even worse, when the corporate world does take on theme songs, they are geared towards mind-control. Take, for example, this old IBM company song:
IBM, Happy men, smiling all the way.
Oh what fun it is to sell our products night and day. IBM, Watson men, partners of T.J. In his service to mankind-that's why we are so gay.
(yes, sung to "Jingle Bells")
There are, of course, counter-examples on both sides, but the tendencies are clear.
If every OS had a song...
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numbware
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· Score: 3, Funny
... the Windows song would just be the windows error "ding" sound over and over again for about 10 minutes.
ps; the BSD song is something different. not good. not bad. just different
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Re:Its a trick, its COUNTRY!
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nacturation
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· Score: 2, Funny
For a second there, I thought OpenBSD released a new product called CanyoneroBSD!
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Re:Living in the past...
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Homology
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· Score: 4, Informative
The ipf code with the new license did not enter the OpenBSD cvs repository, so your link to the cvs repository shows the old license. Darren Reed later changed his license again, but then it was too late : OpenBSD had it's new packet filter pf (as op OpenbSD 3.0).
The author of ipf (Darren Reed) is regularly on the openbsd mailing lists, and quite often it's just gripe. This whole issue has become quite personal, jugding from the posts.
Re:Living in the past...
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QuantumG
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· Score: 3, Funny
That's cause Darren Reed is an idiot and Theo don't tolerate idiots.
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Works one newer chipsets. It dosen't work on my Compaq with a BX chipset. Get some weird error about MP: specification not found.
However, on the newer machines, it zips along. Don't expect HT chips to show up as two cpus though.
From the hackathon, they were saying that a quad opteron was compiling the Open kernel in under a minute.
Re:Living in the past...
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 2, Informative
And this clarification was the issue. The OpenBSD project read the original license the way I am sure most people would; BSD-like with changes and redistribution permitted, preserve copyrights, don't hold the author accountable, etc.
This clarification by Reed was absolutely intolerable because it prohibited bug fixes without his approval.
If this clarification had been in there from the beginning, I doubt the OpenBSD project would ever have used IPF.
Darren Reed and the OpenBSD song
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Nonesuch
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· Score: 2, Interesting
The author of ipf (Darren Reed) is regularly on the openbsd mailing lists, and quite often it's just gripe. This whole issue has become quite personal, jugding from the posts.
Yeah, what's up with that? His contributions vary from sardonic to the merely sarcastic. Darren is clearly a bright guy, his criticism could be constructive if he wanted.
Back on topic, this post by Darren is particularly amusing:
To: deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org (Theo de Raadt) Subject: Re: OpenBSD 3.6 From: Darren Reed <avalon@caligula.anu.edu.au> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:14:38 +1000 (Australia/ACT) Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Hey wow, I just got told that I get a mention in the lyrics:) Thanks:)
That's almost enough to tempt me into buying my 1st ever CD:)
Not everyone gets immortalised (for better or worse) into song so thanks:)
Re:Living in the past...
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tedu
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· Score: 3, Interesting
exactly. the license was thought to be acceptable. then darren said, "no, actually you can't modify ipf." so, oh shit, rip it out. it doesn't matter whether it changed or not. unacceptable is unacceptable. you don't go "oh, we were breaking the license yesterday, so who cares? we'll just continue on the same way." you fix the problem.
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Huh. I kind of expected it to be provided in sheetmusic format.
"Derp de derp."
Wow - where have you been. OpenBSD has been shipping a "release song" for as long as I can remember... Many of them are funny, most of them cover rather serious topics - none of them are works of art that should ever be played in public.
I have mod points and I am not afraid to use them
haha, yea, but it's actually a pretty damn good tune, with good lyrics, in the true style of classic country ... very much unlike country (current country that is, which is more like pop)
"but money is the God of Algiers & Mahomet their prophet." - Rich. O'Bryen June 8th 1786
Gotta love the way the Theo fish just goes nuts at the end and starts yelling at everyone. Someone needs to make a blowfish cartoon where other fish get into morally dubious situations and the Theo fish just comes in and tells em they're all idiots and if they don't contribute to his project then this'll be the last release.
How we know is more important than what we know.
My name is su(1). How do you do?
Now you're gonna die.
On a more serious note, I somewhat repulsed that a person would find a project release song repuslive. The repulsion is what I'd expect from the PHB sort. To me, having a song illustrates wonderfully the difference between Free Software/OSS communities and the corporate world. In the one world, creativity is stifled because creativity is often inefficient and non-productive, while in the other, creativity (the human spirit) is the entire purpose.
Even worse, when the corporate world does take on theme songs, they are geared towards mind-control. Take, for example, this old IBM company song:
(yes, sung to "Jingle Bells")
There are, of course, counter-examples on both sides, but the tendencies are clear.
ps; the BSD song is something different. not good. not bad. just different
I'm going to go create my own technology news site, with blackjack and hookers. You know what? Forget the news site.
For a second there, I thought OpenBSD released a new product called CanyoneroBSD!
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
The ipf code with the new license did not enter the OpenBSD cvs repository, so your link to the cvs repository shows the old license. Darren Reed later changed his license again, but then it was too late : OpenBSD had it's new packet filter pf (as op OpenbSD 3.0).
The author of ipf (Darren Reed) is regularly on the openbsd mailing lists, and quite often it's just gripe. This whole issue has become quite personal, jugding from the posts.
That's cause Darren Reed is an idiot and Theo don't tolerate idiots.
How we know is more important than what we know.
Works one newer chipsets. It dosen't work on my Compaq with a BX chipset. Get some weird error about MP: specification not found.
However, on the newer machines, it zips along. Don't expect HT chips to show up as two cpus though.
From the hackathon, they were saying that a quad opteron was compiling the Open kernel in under a minute.
And this clarification was the issue. The OpenBSD project read the original license the way I am sure most people would; BSD-like with changes and redistribution permitted, preserve copyrights, don't hold the author accountable, etc.
This clarification by Reed was absolutely intolerable because it prohibited bug fixes without his approval.
If this clarification had been in there from the beginning, I doubt the OpenBSD project would ever have used IPF.
s/NetBSD/Solaris/
vodka, straight up, thank you!
Although it's just one of many changes, it receives an inordinate amount of attention.
I'm tempted to make my next machine a dual-processor AMD64 system just to play with all of the new features in 3.6
I do not deploy Linux. Ever.
Back on topic, this post by Darren is particularly amusing:
I do not deploy Linux. Ever.
exactly. the license was thought to be acceptable. then darren said, "no, actually you can't modify ipf." so, oh shit, rip it out. it doesn't matter whether it changed or not. unacceptable is unacceptable. you don't go "oh, we were breaking the license yesterday, so who cares? we'll just continue on the same way." you fix the problem.
- SMP support on OpenBSD/i386 and OpenBSD/amd64 platforms.
- tcpdrop(8), a command to drop TCP connections.
- A generic IEEE 802.11 framework has been added.
- Improved support for USB 2.0 (ehci(4)) controllers.
- ... and more.
See http://www.openbsd.org/36.html-- Sig down