it's simple really... this outreach program is just a cover. it's really so that they can show these chicks "hey, check out this awesome cvs commit baby" and try to make a move
to all of those who are posting the same old bullshit "his attitude isn't making things better" or "do you really think vendors will listen to someone who publicly lambasts them?"
shut the fuck up
it does work and it has worked. and no, i won't do your work for you, go research it for yourself
what is the rest of the OSS "community" (although it hardly acts like a community) doing to help in these situations? absolutely nothing
there's still the problem that the HD radio stations are owned by a handful of companies... Clear Channel, CBS Radio, Citadel, Emmis, etc. their content sucks. they all push the same jessica simpson, green day, james blunt songs 2-3x/hour
basically, one can sum up HD radio as "you can hear shitty content, better". i'm not going to buy a $200 receiver for that. why anyone would, i dunno. i highly doubt an audiophile would either. testicle radio knows they're losing to satellite and are trying to spin new technology that won't help
We have investigated becoming a non-profit organization, but the margins and savings really do not make sense for our project, especially since most of our donations do not come from the country where we operate. Also, there are numerous other constraints and rules.
that's not commenting on the issue?
but, then again, you probably don't run an organization the size of openbsd, or more importantly, that operates like openbsd, but you do know that it wouldn't be expensive (i am assuming you are talking just $$, not time, labor, or distraction from developing openbsd)?
this sensor framework is integrated into the base install. it is managed and developed by the openbsd developers, not a third party group where changes still have to get imported
the framework supports a lot of sensors. along with sensorsd(9), it is a large improvement over what has been available for other OSes
what openbsd needs, and what the article is highlighting, are the big companies who use openssh to kick in a few bucks
cisco uses it in their kit. soes does hp. ibm is another. do you think that between the three, they can't come up with say, $75k/year?
~a year ago, a friend of mine consulted at a company that was reworking their entire network. they ended up spending well over $30k on kit. they chose cisco *because* they had ssh (openssh btw) on their kit at the time. the other vendors they had did not
so fucking donate to openssh already. you want to keep using it right? if openbsd disappears, there's a good chance that openssh is going to disappear (completely is unlikely... but the rate at which it is developed will certainly diminish). along with the other open* projects
openssh is developed by the same people who develop openbsd. they develop it for themselves... the fact that you get to use it is a perk
now, when you or your company hire a developer to work on openssh, then maybe you can have some control over this "overhead" you talk about. but, you're not doing this are you?
if you think setting up a foundation will solve the problem, you're living in a fantasy world. it's a hassle. every time a new release comes out, people talk about it. a foundation will not solve the problem
but, since you "don't give a shit about OpenBSD"... so it's perfectly understandable that they don't give a shit about your ideas and more importantly, lack of a donation
i doubt it. well, i doubt pay radio will get as bad (comparatively) as pay television
the costs associated with producing television content are drastically higher than the costs associated with producing radio content. what's radio content? most stations (or channels on the sat services) are just computer generated/managed music playlists that require little human intervention. talk formats don't demand nearly as many human resources as their television counterparts
i think we should bring a class action lawsuit against all companies that make keyboards, they are manufacturing unsafe products that encourage criminal behavior in america's youth by their continued inclusion of the button 'F5'
yea, ok, but which HOWTO are you going to suggest to get the wired network going? how about setting up iptables? what if that distro doesn't support the wireless card? which HOWTO to install that driver?
i don't buy this "OpenBSD is hard" thing people claim. it is incredibly easy to install, and, unless you can't read or are incredibly dense, even easier to configure. anything man pages (yes, it has man pages, and they are far superior to any man page any linux distro has) miss are summed up in an excellent faq
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it's simple really ... this outreach program is just a cover. it's really so that they can show these chicks "hey, check out this awesome cvs commit baby" and try to make a move
to all of those who are posting the same old bullshit "his attitude isn't making things better" or "do you really think vendors will listen to someone who publicly lambasts them?"
shut the fuck up
it does work and it has worked. and no, i won't do your work for you, go research it for yourself
what is the rest of the OSS "community" (although it hardly acts like a community) doing to help in these situations? absolutely nothing
BLOB != firmware
i can hardly imagine theo was ever supportive of the idea of shipping a bsd-licensed blob with openbsd
http://www.sirius.com/nprnow and http://www.sirius.com/NPRTalk
to clarify ... no one is buying it for O&A. for Stern, yes, but certainly not O&A
there's still the problem that the HD radio stations are owned by a handful of companies ... Clear Channel, CBS Radio, Citadel, Emmis, etc. their content sucks. they all push the same jessica simpson, green day, james blunt songs 2-3x/hour
basically, one can sum up HD radio as "you can hear shitty content, better". i'm not going to buy a $200 receiver for that. why anyone would, i dunno. i highly doubt an audiophile would either. testicle radio knows they're losing to satellite and are trying to spin new technology that won't help
We have investigated becoming a non-profit organization, but the margins and savings really do not make sense for our project, especially since most of our donations do not come from the country where we operate. Also, there are numerous other constraints and rules.
that's not commenting on the issue?
but, then again, you probably don't run an organization the size of openbsd, or more importantly, that operates like openbsd, but you do know that it wouldn't be expensive (i am assuming you are talking just $$, not time, labor, or distraction from developing openbsd)?
you must not have read the article. he comments on that directly
donate the $49 and do an ftp install. if you really want 3.9 right now, grab it from CVS and do a make release
oops. that should have been sensorsd(8)
this sensor framework is integrated into the base install. it is managed and developed by the openbsd developers, not a third party group where changes still have to get imported
the framework supports a lot of sensors. along with sensorsd(9), it is a large improvement over what has been available for other OSes
you are wrong
what openbsd needs, and what the article is highlighting, are the big companies who use openssh to kick in a few bucks
cisco uses it in their kit. soes does hp. ibm is another. do you think that between the three, they can't come up with say, $75k/year?
~a year ago, a friend of mine consulted at a company that was reworking their entire network. they ended up spending well over $30k on kit. they chose cisco *because* they had ssh (openssh btw) on their kit at the time. the other vendors they had did not
so donate $20 and install via ftp. the project will get about the same $$ in the end
you probably could have:
1. donated $40 (or whatever the cd sets cost at the time)
2. installed via ftp
you would have been done much faster and the project would have gotten more $$ for the same $$ out of your pocket
donate $45 and do an ftp install. the project gets much more $$ that way
so fucking donate to openssh already. you want to keep using it right? if openbsd disappears, there's a good chance that openssh is going to disappear (completely is unlikely ... but the rate at which it is developed will certainly diminish). along with the other open* projects
... the fact that you get to use it is a perk
... so it's perfectly understandable that they don't give a shit about your ideas and more importantly, lack of a donation
openssh is developed by the same people who develop openbsd. they develop it for themselves
now, when you or your company hire a developer to work on openssh, then maybe you can have some control over this "overhead" you talk about. but, you're not doing this are you?
if you think setting up a foundation will solve the problem, you're living in a fantasy world. it's a hassle. every time a new release comes out, people talk about it. a foundation will not solve the problem
but, since you "don't give a shit about OpenBSD"
a few regular committers to openbsd work at coverity
search the archives. it's explained
companies like sony? oh, i trust them with media/content, fuck you very much ... no thanks, i'll pass
the ssl cert companies don't verify who you are, just who you say you are
they're in it for the buck. why would they go that extra mile when it just cuts into their bottom line?
you must be either:
1. dopey and fagotty fan
2. clear channel employee/executive/stockholder
i doubt it. well, i doubt pay radio will get as bad (comparatively) as pay television
the costs associated with producing television content are drastically higher than the costs associated with producing radio content. what's radio content? most stations (or channels on the sat services) are just computer generated/managed music playlists that require little human intervention. talk formats don't demand nearly as many human resources as their television counterparts
i listen to howard stern daily. a radio won't work in my office, but i could easily stream from home and tune in with xmms over the net
i think we should bring a class action lawsuit against all companies that make keyboards, they are manufacturing unsafe products that encourage criminal behavior in america's youth by their continued inclusion of the button 'F5'
man, someone should make a book of bush's fuckups of the english language. they could make a killing!
yea, ok, but which HOWTO are you going to suggest to get the wired network going? how about setting up iptables? what if that distro doesn't support the wireless card? which HOWTO to install that driver?
i don't buy this "OpenBSD is hard" thing people claim. it is incredibly easy to install, and, unless you can't read or are incredibly dense, even easier to configure. anything man pages (yes, it has man pages, and they are far superior to any man page any linux distro has) miss are summed up in an excellent faq