Celsius 41.11: A Rebuttal to Michael Moore

deezl writes "Michael Moore released a controversial movie revealing 'facts' about the Bush Presidency. A new rebuttal has just been released called Celsius 41.11. I would think that time sensitive political commentaries would be available for download to ensure the widest possible distribution base. If documentary makers are so interested in getting their message out and arguments across, why not encourage free BitTorrent type distribution for their movies?"

Comments

Re:You mean it's NOT true???

[pyro101]

Yeah how sad he should have run around raving mad screaming the sky is falling or he could have called in air strikes against asprin factories, or even better yet he could have sat there for over and hour like a useless moron (oh wait nevermind Kerry had that part covered).

Re:Other antidotes to "Fahrenheit 9/11"

[Karma Farmer]

Maybe "Bush started a war for profit not liberty," but what was the end goal? Has Iraq been liberated?

No.

Are the Iraqi people better off now than with Saddam?

Possibly yes, probably not.

We see them protesting instead of having their fingers chopped off for touching an American newspaper, so that appears to be some kind of advancement.

I see protesters being mown down by American helicopter gunships instead of Iraqi helicopter gunships, though I would hardly qualify as advancement.

(That said, I don't think we should have gone to Iraq. I wouldn't sacrifice myself or my loved ones for their freedom.)

Don't worry. I'm pretty sure the 1,000 or so dead Americans did not sacrifice their lives for Iraqi freedom.

Re:Flash? WTF.

[ClioCJS]

Yea really. "Wah wahh, I proclaim to be a computer nerd but I'm too weak and helpless to view a fucking flash page." Typical Linux head-in-the-clouds zealotry. Installing flash requires what -- hitting enter when the prompt comes up? Oooooooooh, fear that.

Re:No, it's far worse than that.

[devphil]

Wrong. At the time F911 came out, there was no number at all. Only in response to the movie was the number created. (And it's not 888, either)

We called the number, and it was well before Moore decided to make his film. Politicians lie, but not to the degree of simply making up a phone number. (Do you think nobody would ever call it? They certainly never made that mistake.)

The best thing that can be said about Moore's film is that it has a good soundtrack.

Re:Other antidotes to "Fahrenheit 9/11"

[kuwan]

Why was no thought given to liberating anybody before 9/11?

There was: Iraq Liberation Act of 1998. This did not call for the direct involvement of the U.S. military, but for U.S. support for an Iraqi-led rebellion from within. Look at the Democrat party right now, after 9/11, in their opposition to and hate for our current president. How do you think they'd be reacting if 9/11 had never happened? How would they have reacted had we gone into Afghanistan pre-9/11?

You speak of overextending oneself; why, in the midst of trying to track down a world-wide terrorist organization, would you suddenly decide to 'liberate' Iraq?

We pretty much destroyed whatever part of Al-Queda we could in Afghanistan. Whatever is left is hiding in caves that we're trying to track down now with the help of Pakistan. Where were the survivors of Al-Queda likely to go? Iraq was among the nations where they might try to flee. Combine that with the fact that we were already in a quasi-war with Iraq. We had a no-fly zone over most of the country, we (Clinton) bombed them to disrupt potential weapons programs, there were vast economic sanctions against them that were starting to break down (look at the Oil-for-food scandal), and they were led by a genocidal maniac that was determined to build or acquire WMD.

The people of Iraq desperately needed to be liberated, but Hussein was also a major security threat to the U.S. and Iraq's neighbors. Remember it only took a few planes and a handful of hijackers on 9/11. Iraq didn't need WMD to inflict major damage on us or its neighbors.

Re:You mean it's NOT true???

[N3WBI3]

You seem to be ignoring the part where kerry says he was paralized and unable to think for an hour after the second plane hit...

Re:Blame the Academy rules

[Lord Kano]

He's already been disqualified by leasing it for TV broadcast this year. It will be on next month.

Which is precisely why McCain-Feingold is a BAD LAW. F-911 is a "documentary" so it'll get played on TV right before the election, but no one can buy airtime to rebut any of the claims made in it.

LK