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Have a Nice Steaming Cup of Java 5

wap writes "The language/VM/religion that everyone loves to hate is now serving another cup: Java 1.5 is ready for download. The new features of 1.5 have been discussed here before. I, for one, welcome our new virtual machine overlord. I have been using the release candidate, and startup times are noticeably faster, as is overall performance, and the new features like typesafe collections and static imports are great to have. Let the Java flames begin!"

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  1. Java 5 or 1.5? by SleepyShamus · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    How much confidence do you have in a product that has 5 major releases before it hits 2.0?

  2. Faster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Still ain't as fast as the slowest C# implementation.

  3. Love the product, hate the hype? by Octagon+Most · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Is it really Java that we love to hate, or is it the failure to live up to the "write-once, run-anywhere hype"?

  4. Well, since you people ask this.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    ...why not just use .NET?

  5. Re:Java is to C as ... by rudolfel · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    Java is as far above C as C is above Assembly


    yeah
    in terms of memory and cpu usage is even better
    --
    -- Segmentation fault. Core dumped
  6. Poor Indecisive Sun by cermanius · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    This is now, what, the third Name for Java.

    First there was just plain Java
    Then there was Java 2
    Now Java 5?

    Where did Java 3 and 4 go?
    I personally can't wait to see Java X, or better, when they get that far instead of calling it Java, they'll call it Java eXpresso. Wait,that's kind of a cool name...

    *runs to the patent office.*

    --
    "Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff." -- by an Unknown Wise man.
  7. Re:Thanks to our supporters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Don't forget the competition from C#. Java, after all, has been in the doldrums for years until Microsoft stepped up and in one leap jumped right over the sloth-like Java. Now, at least, Sun has to make a token effort at making Java less sucky.

    Not that they have much of a chance. Not only is C# a nicer language than Java, but the VM is more flexible. Frankly it's game over as far as non-zealots are concerned. We even have the CLR and C# on Linux thanks to Mono. Java is dead for everyone but those companies who bought into Sun's bullshit a couple of years ago and moved critical infrastructure onto it -- suckers.

  8. steaming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Coffee or pile-of-poo?

    Cheers, Sally.

  9. Re:Java is to C as ... by uberchicken · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Oooo but developing in C# and VS.NET with all
    that intellisense is developer paradise!!

    built-in installshield stuff, winforms. luvverly.

    If Java is a cup of coffee, C#/VS is a cup of
    sweet sweet chocolate.

  10. Re:Dear Sun by vlad_grigorescu · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Yes Sun, what's wrong with you!??! You know that the poor Micro$oft users can't follow more than one link. Everything for them needs to be, big and flashing (preferably in Aero). In fact, you should make a Java Update page that will only run in IE. Oh, and Automagic Updates. That way, the poor users don't have to click anything at all.

  11. Mono Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    It's a trap you stupid morons. Just hand Bill Gates your wallet now and save some time later.

  12. sweet jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Java, and my teacher, can kiss my ass. C++ is the way to go! I mean come on wtf mates?!

  13. Re:Speed and resources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So, how Java is not a real language, genius?

  14. Re:Java is to C as ... by tgd · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Honestly, not to start a flame war, I think most people who have used Java and C# would disagree.

    I'm a full-time Java developer, have been for ages, but Java (even 1.5) has a ways to go to be as nice to work in as C#.

    1.5 is a BIG jump forward, but I find it hard to believe you could be so pro Java/anti-C# if you've ever done any real development in both. At best you could six of one/half dozen of the other between them... but its hard to imagine someone thinking Java was that much better.