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Sony Japan to Abolish Copy Controlled CDs

Gridle writes "In a complete reversal of their policy and on the heels of Avex's partial cessation of copy protected CDs (translation), Sony Music Entertainment in Japan has announced that it will abolish its Label Gate CCCD format (translation) beginning in November 2004 and move back to normal CD-audio format discs for all future releases. Reasons cited are music users' increased consciousness about copyrights and maintenance of legality (conformity to the CD-audio format specification). In related news, Sony also released a slightly updated HD walkman (translation) due to pressure from the iPod, but because of hardware limitations the device still does not support MP3 playback."

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  1. Translation of Translation by Atrax · · Score: 5, Funny

    "many music users' consciousness increased to protection of copyrights"

    "We really thought we could sneak this by most users, but it turns out they're more informaed than we thought. Damn you, independent media!"

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    Screw you all! I'm off to the pub
    1. Re:Translation of Translation by Carewolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or translation of translation of translation:

      "Capitalism actually works. I am shocked!"

      So am I.

  2. Roxxor by cfalcon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any move toward trusting consumers and an industry standard is worthy of a smile. :)

    Or at least, a colon and a close parenthesis.

    1. Re:Roxxor by halowolf · · Score: 5, Informative
      Well I'm from Australia too and I've never had a problem getting region free DVD players in Australia. Everyone seems to offer them. Just do some hunting, perhaps at a specialist store and I'm sure you will find a good player unencumbered by and anti-competitive practice. The ACCC doesn't seem to mind region free players existing ;)

      The UK however I don't have a clue about. However if you can get a DVD player through customs send one home and change its power plug :)

    2. Re:Roxxor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      1. can I get a region free DVD drive for my Dell laptops? no.

      You can play DVD's from any region on any player if you use software with decss... like VLC and such. (Yes, it works under Windows too.)

    3. Re:Roxxor by Frogbert · · Score: 5, Informative

      Some links that may be of interest to you:
      http://dvd.box.sk/index.php?pid=d_soft&prj=l ist&to ols=region&pol=2
      http://regionhacks.datatestlab.c om/
      http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks

      Enjoy your movies :-)

    4. Re:Roxxor by DeeKayWon · · Score: 5, Informative
      You can play DVD's from any region on any player if you use software with decss... like VLC and such. (Yes, it works under Windows too.)

      No, you can't. For about the last five years, DVD drives themselves have been enforcing region coding in firmware. Firmwares that do not enforce regioning are called RPC-1. Ones that do are called RPC-2. The only way to make a recent drive RPC-1 is with a hacked firmware, since the companies only release RPC-2.

      The Firmware Page is one of the best sources for hacked RPC-1 firmware. But if no one has hacked up a new firmware for your drive, then there's no way around region coding regardless what software you're using.

  3. Good For Sony by ZSmitty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a good move by Sony. Discs with the protection are incredibly annoying. Sure, people will pirate stuff and do things with non-protected discs illegally, but this is becoming less frequent, and for people who actually buy their music honestly, it is an incredible annoyance to not be able to do what you want with your own personal music. Thanks Sony.

  4. Sony has been forced by the market... by manonthemoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    to face reality. It sounds like the war between its content producing arms and consumer electronics groups has been decided in favor of the electronics group.

    It was inevitable- "MP3 players" is the *name* of the categorty and the defining feature of compressed audio devices.

    If you cannot rip a CD to mp3 its value to the consumer is lessened considerably and they will be more likely to turn to p2p alternatives. A losing proposition all around for Sony.

    It may be too little too late- kind of sad as they could have owned they category if they had only been unhampered by their content divisions (and had some better human interface engineers for their software).

  5. Say Goodbye To Sales by hereschenes · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "... but because of hardware limitations the device still does not support MP3 playback."

    Sounds pretty stupid to me... for many not-particularly-tech-savvy (NPTS) people, mp3 is still the compressed music format of choice, and these people will be most of Sony's market for this device.

    NPTS Customer: Hey that looks cool, does it have mp3?
    Salesman: No, but it has...
    NPTS Customer: Ah we'll leave it - what else you got?/p?

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  6. Damn! by NTiOzymandias · · Score: 5, Funny

    No more copy-protected CDs?! But why?! I was having so much fun scribbling around the edges with my beloved Sharpees..... I can still do that even if there's no point, right? Right?!?!

  7. A possible solution....? by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a feeling half the reason (or the only?) reason Sony is doing this, is because they happen to be involved in the electronics business that requires you to have non-copy-protected CDs as raw material. Basically I think the decision may have that since there's shitloads of profit to be made off the hardware, it may offset greater piracy in their music biz. And somebody doing the math may have realized that this is financially viable. Thus Sony has no issues with this. Maybe the RIAA should stop prosecuting file-sharers, and instead get into some kind of revenue-sharing agreement with the Sonys and Apples of world. (ok, ok, stop scoffing at the words revenue-sharing, it could happen!)

  8. This is what I get... by abb3w · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...for reading Slashdot after 1AM: I start dreaming weird and unbelievable stuff becomes news. Time for bed.

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    //Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
  9. Just a thought by starprose · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When you buy music and movies you are not allowed to return it to the store unless your buying the same title since you could have copied them. Would they now let you return discs with copyright protective measures for a refund since you are unable to copy them?

  10. Business by baba · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a side note to your well put remark - whatever happened to /. crowd's usual dislike of Sony (member RIAA)? To read most comments posted here would make you think Sony is the New Angles Co. (tm).

    This is just a simple decision to end a failing practice in the marketplace. Nothing more.

    1. Re:Business by JanneM · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Because it is always worth noting when a company does the right thing, and especially when they usually are deep in the murky end of the ethical pool.

      This _may_, hopefully, mean that at some point in the future we may actually see a text reader tablet from them that will allow you to store your own stuff on it - in a standard format such as html - and not just lease content from them. At that point, I'd actually consider buying it.

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    2. Re:Business by TiggsPanther · · Score: 5, Informative
      As a side note to your well put remark - whatever happened to /. crowd's usual dislike of Sony (member RIAA)? To read most comments posted here would make you think Sony is the New Angles Co. (tm).

      I think it's because it shows one (or both) of two things.

      1. Sony might be an RIAA affiliate but that doesn't influence Sony Japan's decision-making. Which means that the worldwide company isn't having it's decisions dictated by its American arm. This is good in that if more and more regional divisions of Sony decide it's better not to copy-protect CDs then their American arm might follow suit out of sheer convenience. Oh and as a Brit I admit to having a little bit of bias in thinking that it's good that non-American arms of international countries don't always follow the "bad" decisions of their American counterparts.
      2. They realise that DRM isn't a perfect solution whether they like it or not. (See below)
      This is just a simple decision to end a failing practice in the marketplace. Nothing more.

      Coming from a company so involved in the industry I see this as a good thing. If nothing else it's a pleasant change to the usual story of trying to prolong the failing practice at the expense of customer irritation.
      Even if it is "a simple decision to end a failing practice" it would be a very welcome decision if more companies would realise that irritating your customers isn't going to increase sales.

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      Tiggs
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