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U.S. Offers $50 Download

chill writes "CNN is reporting that the U.S. Government is offering low-quality images of its new $50 bill for artists, students and others who discover that their computers, scanners or printers won't allow them to view or copy pictures of the new currency, due to mostly-secret anti-counterfeiting measures built-in. This anti-copying technology has been discussed on Slashdot before. Now to go and test my new Epson scanner and printer to see if they're affected!"

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  1. images by MankyD · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not sure if these are exactly what are being referred to, but here are pdf images of the $50 and $20:

    $50 front
    $50 back
    $20 front

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    1. Re:images by Dutchy+Wutchy · · Score: 0, Informative

      This is exactly what is being referred to. RTFA

    2. Re:images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Removing the red wording won't matter. the image in the pdf is too dithered down to print an accurate reproduction, even on the best printer available.. You would end up printing, in high res, a bunch of green blocks. :)

      -Friendly A.C.

    3. Re:images by MankyD · · Score: 2, Informative

      Only certain printers and software mark them as non-printable. If you're printer is more then even two or three years old, it very well may work. I would bet there's even current printers that allow them to be printed - though the manufacturer will never label this as a feature.

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  2. Re:They won't copy it b/c it's ugly... by chill · · Score: 5, Informative

    Uhhh....those little yellow 20s are a major part of the digial anti-counterfeiting measures!

    The pattern of the "0"s is something you'll see on Euros, Pounds and many other currencies. This allows software to easily recognize one pattern, at almost any angle, and not have to have separate code for each country's currency.

    "It's simpler than you might think. All compliant notes bear a pattern of five tiny circles. On the Euro, the circles appear in a constellation of stars; on the British £20 note, they're disguised as musical notation. On the new $US20 note, the pattern is hidden in the zeros of a repeated background pattern of the number 20. Imaging software or devices detect the pattern and won't play ball."

    Check it out at http://www.listener.co.nz/default,1412.sm

    -Charles

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  3. Re:Security Measures... by strictfoo · · Score: 5, Informative
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  4. Counterfiting by Ziak · · Score: 5, Informative

    Couterfiting occurs because people are careless, yes the technology helps prevent it somewhat, but after working as a cashier in my midteens I was amased to how my fellow coworks would get fake bills and accept it... some of them looked so fake it was unbelivable.... also when i worked as a cahsier i noticed that these pens ( our only tool we where told to use to prevent counterfits) could easily able to give the wrong results on conterfits by just simply coating the paper with a fake plastic not enough to really feel it because of this it never alowed the ink to change color idefenying counterfit...

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  5. Just to compare by Sophrosyne · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are the new Canadian 20$ bills.
    the site has some info on the new security features on this bill- there are also new 100$ bills, the only thing missing is new $50 bills.

  6. Re:How many? by dmuth · · Score: 1, Informative

    stupid 7-11 etc clerks that will except the copies.

    Surely you meant to say "accept"? If they "except" such fake bills, then that's exactly what we want to see happen!

    Not to nitpick or anything, I just found your typo rather amusing.

  7. Here's how they detect the currency... by bchernicoff · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are a series of 5 circles in a specific pattern... in the case of the new $50 it's the zeros in all the little "50"'s on the back.

    Here's more info.

    1. Re:Here's how they detect the currency... by GizmoToy · · Score: 1, Informative

      That's one of the cooler things I've seen in a long time. Thanks for the link! I always wondered how they detected those things.

      I took a look at the new US $20s... on the back you can see the pattern in the yellow "20"s scattered, seemingly at random, in the background. Very sneaky!

  8. Re:They won't copy it b/c it's ugly... by stormhair · · Score: 3, Informative

    Indeed, as a Brit I can confirm that they are on all of our banknotes.

    Here's some more info about it.

  9. "SPECIMEN" text can easily be removed by Jagasian · · Score: 4, Informative

    Opening up the PDF in xpdf for Linux causes the bill to be rendered and a few seconds later, the red colored "SPECIMEN" text is written ontop of the bill. It should be hard to remove this top layer, resulting in a government provided digital copy of a $50 bill. Lovely.

    Didn't the government acidentally make this mistake with CIA documents that had people's names blacked out with a separate top layer, that was easily removed?

    1. Re:"SPECIMEN" text can easily be removed by hrieke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Did it in windows in 5 seconds with Adobe AB Standard V6.
      Click on the menu item "Advanced" -> "Export All Images..." -> save in some location.

      Done sans the red 'Specimen' text.

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    2. Re:"SPECIMEN" text can easily be removed by Ironsides · · Score: 2, Informative

      Those PDF's are not high quality and are actually affecte by some of the anti-counterfit measures.

      Examples from the front of the 50:
      Grants Forehead, notice the circles, that is from a scanner mis-interpreg the lines on hte bill. There are more example sof this on his cheaks, the red and blue areas and his overcoat. They weren't stupid when they made the PDFs.

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    3. Re:"SPECIMEN" text can easily be removed by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 2, Informative

      pdfimages Glossy-back-web.pdf 50b
      gimp 50b-000.ppm

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  10. Re:They won't copy it b/c it's ugly... by loraksus · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a "banknote patch" for Photoshop CS, which makes the protection useless.

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  11. It's the Eurion. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's called the Eurion constellation .

    And it's proeminently visible in the $50 back picture of the new US bills.

  12. Re:They won't copy it b/c it's ugly... by andrew_0812 · · Score: 1, Informative

    The US Government has been testing holograms on paper money for years. Many other countries' currency have this feature, and it is good for stopping counterfits. But the US has not adopted it yet because they have not found any hologram robust enough for the standards of our paper money. We have much more stringent standards than other countries. You have to be able to dole out just about any kind of abuse and have the bill survive, and still be legible. No fading whatsoever is allowed. I assume that Holograms (as we know them today) cant stand up to that kind of abuse. But when they do, we will probably incorporate them in our bills as well.

    If memory serves, another reason that we don't have a hologram yet is because of the immence amount of nostalgia that people have for their money over here. No one wants it to change very much, and putting a hologram on it would make many people angry. This is very silly, but it will probably be the last barrier between the currency and the holograms.

  13. Re:They won't copy it b/c it's ugly... by JohnFluxx · · Score: 3, Informative

    normal holograms are trivial to copy.
    do a contact copy - place the blank hologram on top of one you want to copy, and fire a laser at it :)

  14. Re:They won't copy it b/c it's ugly... by torpor · · Score: 2, Informative

    How do you know it is more robust? Have you used both currencies?

    Why yes, I have. Aussie money I can go surfing with, diving, swim all day, enter the desert, no problems. Get back to the beach, buy my mates beer. Money is fully intact.

    U.S. greenbacks, even the new ones .. erm .. no.

    (Aussie dollars are plastic, though, so ..)

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  15. Re:They won't copy it b/c it's ugly... by Your+Anus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes. Go to Suprnova.org and search for the "banknote patch" torrent.

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  16. Re:protect my own documents by c0dedude · · Score: 2, Informative

    actually, yes. Yep, you can. Have fun. (only works on b/w copiers, tho.

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  17. Re:They won't copy it b/c it's ugly... by GreenKiwi · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why didn't he just squirt water in the dollar bill slot? It has the added benefit of releasing all or most of the coins in the system.

  18. Though not mentioned in the link... by Madtown+PLT · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was in Romania in April and found that the Romanian 10,000, 50,000 and 100,000 lei notes all have the circle patterns as well. Like Aussie currency, the Romanian currency has a plastic, waxy feel to it and coolest of all incorporates little transparent plastic windows. I thought it was funny that such measures would be taken to prevent the counterfeiting of notes worth 30 cents US. Slovakia, Czech Republic, Hungary, and Turkey didn't have the circle patterns as I recall, only Romania.