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White House Lied About Iraq Nuclear Programs

An anonymous reader writes "This New York Times article reports that in 2002, the Bush Administration's assertions that Saddam Hussein was rebuilding his nuclear weapons program were based on evidence that was doubted by the government's foremost nuclear security experts. Specifically, aluminum tubes most likely meant for small artillery rockets were interpreted by the administration as parts for uranium centrifuges." In a nutshell: while Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld were announcing to the American public that these tubes were slam-dunk evidence of Iraq's nuclear ambitions, they already knew that there was completely overwhelming evidence that the tubes were just for artillery rockets (as Iraq said) and that the tubes were totally unsuitable for use in centrifuges.

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  1. Whaaaa? by acxr+is+wasted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Politicians? Lying??

    Bullshit.

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    1. Re:Whaaaa? by edalytical · · Score: 3, Funny
      Bullshit

      We should coin a new term: Bushshit.

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    2. Re:Whaaaa? by hobo2k · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you care so much about global opinion why are you trashing this fine international coalition that our heroic president has formed. What do you say to Tony Blair? What do you say to Poland? Poland! Why does everybody forget that we were supported by Poland!

    3. Re: Whaaaa? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


      > It has been proven many times: The American people don't mind violence, even extreme violence, but the moment you do something sexual, the American public will call for your head on a pike.

      Like flashing a tit at the Superbowl. Oh, the humanity!

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    4. Re:Whaaaa? by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Remember the decision makers of the US dont do what most americans want them to do.

      And you want to impose this lovely system on the rest of savages?

    5. Re:Whaaaa? by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've seen the shape the US wants us in and that shape is obese. By the time you guys are finished "shaping" your country your're all going to look like Marlon Brando on a bad day.

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    6. Re:Whaaaa? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      A joke that I heard in the pub in Australia:

      "John Howard (Australian PM) is so far up George W Bush's arse that he can see Tony Blair's shoes"

    7. Re:Whaaaa? by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      Our estimates of the weapons Saddam was supposed to have were based on several things. Unfortunately one of those things were our reciepts.

      Mycroft

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  2. Re:Contempt of Congress by bahwi · · Score: 4, Funny

    It doesn't affect the President anymore, unless he slept with one of the female nuclear scientists.

  3. Re:irrefutable evidence by wankledot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Haliburton found them and resold them to someone... probably Israel.

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  4. Re:No Surprise by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oceania has always been at war with East Iraqistan. It has always been allies with EurArabia.

    Oceania has always been at war with EurArabia. It has always been allies with East Iraqistan.

    You may be crimethinking without even knowing it comrade. Please report to the Ministry of Homeland Security.

  5. Max Headroom by freejung · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Great thing about politicians, though, you can always tell when they're lying: their lips move."

  6. Re:Explaining that 45% by bullitB · · Score: 4, Funny

    Essentially all those arguments could be applied to Kerry supporters if/when some silly story breaks.

    Conservative Attacks: "It was from a news source that is, in fact a corporation, thus they had a monetary incentive to make this story. And those who love money love Bush."

    Patterns of Birth: "I've heard my mom and dad ridicule Bush when they watch the news all the time. I love my parents, they must be right."

    One-Issue Paramount: "Sure, Kerry couldn't choose between soup and salad at an all-you-can-eat buffet, but at least he'll (keep abortion legal / get rid of some of those rich-centric tax cuts / not be Bush)."

    Shared Beliefs: "I haven't been saved by Jesus, my president shouldn't have been either."*

    Shared Geography: "He's not from the south. Southerners are all racists. Duh."

    Rambo Syndrome: Alright, I'll give you that one. There is nothing Rambo-like about Kerry.

    * This is, BTW, the most compelling argument I've seen against Bush thus far. As an Atheist, that much God-stuff in the White House is scary shit. But then...Kerry has done nothing to suggest he's any different.

  7. Why Do The Facts Hate Bush? by MooseByte · · Score: 3, Funny

    "screams "I'm a Democrat, I hate Republicans!" to me."

    I know. Reality is SO freakin' biased. Why do the facts hate Bush and his followers? Why oh why? There should be a law!

    The scary thing is that at this rate I could actually see one being created:

    The RightThink Homeland Defense Act - "Because only a terrorist would question the President's motives!"

  8. Re:Contempt of Congress by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 3, Funny

    And for impersonally killing thousands of people, in cold blood, with millions of witnesses, and being caught grinning into the camera, he may well be re-elected. Superb

    That's not a grin. It's a smirk. Totally different thing.

  9. Re:i always thought it was right to invade iraq by bigdreamer · · Score: 4, Funny

    so to war with iraq we go, to begin the the process of fixing the middle east. because september 11th shows that the middle east will export its problems to us, so it is our responsibility to fix the middle east, whether we deserve it or not."

    You're right. Absolutely right. Every time a terrorist group with members in countries all over the world plans to bomb us, we should fix a few of the countries that may or may not have been involved. Because the USA's job is to fix countries that might be a threat to us in the future and turn these nations into carbon-copies of us. It's the American way, after all.

  10. I'm sick and tired by bigberk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Gosh darnit, I am so sick and tired of the liberal media twisting and spinning all the news into some sort of Conservative conspiracy story. I wasn't too thrilled watching that PBS commie Jim Lehrer moderate the presidential debate, either. Jesus, if you're not going to place your faith in God and the * elected * president's office, and trust that the men in the closed meetings know a bit more than you or I know, that what are you going to place your faith? Bush and Cheney are smarter, and probably more honest than 75% of the bleeding heart liberal whiners that keep wrecking my day. I hope you all go back to your gay bars and stay the hell away from my ballot boxes.

  11. Re:Burden of proof by Viking+Coder · · Score: 4, Funny

    If something is binary, weapons or no weapons, it can be proved one way or the other.

    Phew! That's a relief!

    So, does God exist? I'm glad I finally found someone who pointed out that the existance of God is binary, and therefore is provable one way or the other!

    Well, don't keep us waiting! Which is it?!

    </sarcasm>

    You idiot. I can't prove that there is no Loch Ness Monster. I can't prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist. I can't prove that a blue monkey doesn't control your thoughts. I can't prove that aliens DID NOT LAND IN IOWA LAST NIGHT AND MOVE A SLEEPING COW ONE FOOT TO THE LEFT, IN DEFIANCE OF ALL LOGIC!

    You can't prove a negative like that.

    Or, to use your "W00t!" lingo against you: PWN3D!

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  12. Re:My opinion on that Superbowl halftime show.. by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's sexual about a tit? It's used for feeding babies. Do you get a boner looking at a fork, a knife, a plate, or a spoon?

    What is so sexual and offensive about a tit?

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  13. Re:My opinion on that Superbowl halftime show.. by kgbspy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I found the whole halftime "tit show" disappointing

    Disappointed that they didn't show both tits?

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  14. VOTE UKIP!!! by RKloti · · Score: 3, Funny

    FACT: If we leave the EU, all British trains will run on time. And the tickets will be free. And everyone will have a legrest.

    FACT: If we leave the EU, all mail will be on time. And stamps will cost half as much. And they'll have the queen's head on them again.

    FACT: If we leave the EU, Britons will pay 120% less taxes than today. Poor people will no longer need to pay taxes, and we will remove the tax burden from the middle class will ceasing to punish the rich for their productivity. And everyone will get three times as much social support money, we will increase pensions by 400% AND we will pay off the national debt.

    FACT: If we leave the EU, we will triple the British literacy rate to almost 300%. There will be no more school violence, all the teachers will be paid well and the NUT will be banned. We will also ensure that students are no longer taught all those embarrassing things about puberty, either.

    FACT: If we leave the EU, Britons won't need banks because they won't need to pay bills anymore. With all the money saved from the Great Satan in Brussels, every Briton will be able to have a private castle in Leeds and a fleet of luxury cars that would make Arnold Schwarzenegger envious.