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Another Hotspot Redirect Patent Collection Attempt

Glenn Fleishman writes "Acacia Technologies is turning its sights from collecting streaming media patent fees to Wi-Fi hotspot gateway redirection, we report at Wi-Fi Networking News. The company acquired a patent that they say covers the use of technology that redirects a login attempt by an unauthenticated user to a login gateway page. They want a minimum of $1,000 per quarter in royalties. Nomadix already claims a patent on this, while we quote an early Wayport executive who says that Wayport has prior art on it. Will community hotspots using NoCatAuth fall under this patent-enforcement attempt? Too early to tell."

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  1. Re:Dates matter by Triumph+The+Insult+C · · Score: 2, Informative

    yea, but the wayback machine has nocat.net back to 4/01. downloads included. whether the 'technology' covered by the patent is there or not is something i didn't check. i wonder if discussion about doing something like that is elsewhere on the site (and if discussion would count as prior art)

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  2. Re:Wow...Just wow. by mkettler · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmm, Well, In this case one can't really say they are patenting something that's a script which is already used in NoCatAuth.

    The patent was filed in 1999, not recently. As best I can tell NoCatAuth started in somewhere in 2001.

    It doesn't take much research to find this out.

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  3. Colubris Access Point... by wotevah · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know Colubris makes some Wi-Fi access points that redirect unauthenticated traffic to another site for login.

    This document seems to suggest that they have been in production at least since 2000, which is earlier than the patent date (2001).

    1. Re:Colubris Access Point... by lightknight · · Score: 2, Informative

      2001 is the grant date.

      1999 is the filing date (the date that matters).

      Thanks for playing the prior art game, play again!

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  4. For the love of God by Why+Should+I · · Score: 2, Informative

    I thought patents were supposed to be non obvious.

    If I need a way to authenticate someone on a gateway I redirect them to the login page. This is pretty much the most obvious approach to the problem.

    Patented they say.

    * spits in disgust *

  5. Re:Nothing new by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 4, Informative
    They all have an unwritten agreement that they won't use their patents against each other

    Not unwritten. It is called cross-licensing. Basically, they allow each other unlimited, royalty-free access to all their patents.

    It backfires on them occasionally when a small startup patents an idea and it gets under the radar but usually all they have to do then is buy out the startup and they are back to square one.

    No, it backfires when a litigation company, consisting only of lawyers, acquires a patent they violate. They cannot offer cross-licensing, because the litigation company does not need any patents since it doesn't produce anything. It is only interested in money. And it doesn't want just a tip, usually it goes for something like 10% of the profits.

    The rest of your text is accurate.