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House Passes Another Spyware Bill

SkippyTPE writes "The AP reports that the US House of Representatives has unanimously passed a law criminalizing Spyware. This is the second such bill in two days (the first imposing civil penalties, whereas this bill imposes criminal penalties). Information on the bills (HR2929 and HR4661) can be found here and here respectively."

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  1. Re:Maybe another Law isn't necessary by Trigun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is a difference in unnecessary laws, and establishing laws to prevent unethical business practices. Would you like to be egregiously harmed only to be told that, although it should be illegal, nobody has got around to writing a law against what has happened to you, so you might want to go cry somewhere else.

    Good Riddance Gator/Claria. The world will truly be a better place, even if our computer clocs are out of date by a couple minutes, or we don't know what the weather is like in Yemen.

  2. sorta OT by Lxy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is there a good HOWTO on cleaning up a Windoze box from spyware and keeping it clean? I use the following method:

    Install Ad-aware, update, clean, reboot, clean
    Install Spybot S&D, update, clean, reboot, clean
    Install Spywareblaster, update, enable protection

    This method has worked pretty well in the past. In the last couple days, I've gotten infected by some browser hijackers and no amount of cleaning and resetting things will delete the %$#@$$#%ers. Is there a better method?

    --

    There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
    :wq
  3. Who will serve the criminal penalties by blankman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If this becomes law, and a piece of spyware is found to be illegal, who exactly goes to jail? The programmers who wrote it? The stockholders of the company that paid the programmers to write it? The owners of the web site from which a user unwittingly downloaded and installed it? Suppose I determine that I got a piece of spyware from IP address X... is the ISP on the hook for criminal charges too?

    Give Congress credit for trying, but I don't see you can realistically make installing spyware a jailable offense.

  4. Laws to protect the gullible? by Jakhel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, I'm all for anti spyware and anti scam measures, but is this really going to address the core issue? That is, people aren't educated enough to NOT fall for scams? And if they AREN'T educated enough to not fall for it in the first place, what good will the law do?

    A current example may be those "multi level marketing schemes" like Vector or Pre paid legal (they are really just pyramids in disguise). We've got laws against pyramid schemes, and yet these companies are still around (they call themselves multi level marketing in most cases, just to avoid the legal hassels). The people who actually get caught up in the schemes are those who are a) to stupid or b) to greedy to not realize what's going on; and by the time the person has found out that they have been duped, the perp (I've been watching law and order :D ) is long gone. Incidentally those people who would be fooled by spyware are more than likely those who wouldn't know how to deal with it in the first place (spybot, adaware, or cleaning the system registry manually).

    And then there's the question of how many people will actually actively pursue a lawsuit against spyware companies. I'm willing to bet that most people will say, "spyware is against the law, the companies can't do that and if they install it on my computer I'll write a nasty letter to them" instead of "spyware? time to sue". Almost like what's going on with spam..

  5. Re: Maybe another Law isn't necessary by SamSeaborn · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If the law prevents others from installing stuff on my computer I didn't ask for and don't want then it sounds good to me.

    Many spywares I've seen are in Windows directories. This may be old hat, but can't Windows do a simple hash or cert check on a file going into c:/Windows or c:/Windows/System to see if it's an "official" or "authorized" file?

    A simple message like "Application X is trying to put a file called NOTEPAD.EXE in your Windows/system directory -- this is not a Microsoft file, do you want to allow this?" would suit me.

    Goodness knows Windows nags me about a million other things on a daily basis ("Updates ... get your updates!").

    Sam