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What's Next in the New Private Space Industry?

Cesaro asks: "I'm as thrilled as every other geek out there with the success of SpaceShipOne. But what are realistic expectations of our next steps into this new industry? The Economist clearly thinks the next step is high paying 'space tourism' at a whopping $200k+ per trip. That is all well and good, but what do *we* think the goals and schedule should look like?" "How about travel? A flight to Australia will currently take me 20+ hours. How long down the road until I can take off from the US and land SpaceShipOne in Australia where another White Knight is waiting to ferry it back into the air again? (Anyone know how fast I could get there?) I only get 10 days of vacation a year and spending two of them in a metal cylinder is not such a good deal. How many years until we can start carrying cargo and DHL/UPS/FedEx can promise around the globe next day delivery? So I ask Slashdot: What should be the next steps and what is a realistic expectation of when those steps could occur?"

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  1. SPACE PIRATES by bobbozzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Space Pirates, of course!

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  2. Longer stay, lower price by erick99 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    For about $210,000 a pop, the two men intend to offer seats in SpaceShipOne, or a similar craft, for anybody eager to be thrust into space. For that amount, well-heeled customers will get three days of training before being treated to about three minutes of weightlessness. The first customers are expected to go into space in 2007.

    Hopefully we can get to something more along the lines of spending the night in space for, say,$50,000. If we could do that within five years that would be awesome. I don't think I would spend 210K for three minutes even if I had it.

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    1. Re:Longer stay, lower price by worldtechguy · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about three minutes with Britney Spears? Now there's a ride worth taking! HEY! Before criticizing, remember, in three minutes you could make mad passionate love to her AND get to know her entire depth of her being!

  3. legalized space prostitution by seringen · · Score: 5, Funny

    sex in space is where it's at. I'm almost not even kidding. It's out of the control of any state, and who wouldn't want to have sex in space?

  4. Black Sky - Discovery Channel by JumboMessiah · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tonight on Discovery Channel you can check you Black Sky. The documentary on SpaceShipOne and the Ansari X Prize. Be sure to check it out. It's simply amazing!

  5. Re:They were on Jay Leno yesterday by erick99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jeeze, this makes you wonder if there is going to be "dot.space" phenomena where people will throw money at anything that hints of private spaceflight. I envy the folks like Rutan who are positioned to catch this cash. Hopefully they'll hang on to it, unlike a lot of dot.com folks who thought the gravy train would never end.

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  6. Bad news: Suborbital bill hijacked by FleaPlus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As seen on Transterrestrial Musings, spacepolitics.com, and RLV News:

    Just got this message Jeff Greason of XCOR Aerospace that the current legislation to assist the development of the suborbital spaceflight industry has been distorted by Senate staffers into something that will instead smother the industry in the cradle:

    There is a last-minute move by some staffers in the Senate to heavily amend HR 3752. The amendments would completely change the charter of the office of commercial space transportation (AST), placing the safety of the crew and passengers on equal footing with the safety of the uninvolved public. Since that is well beyond present technology, it would effectively stop development of the industry in the U.S.. It is too late to fix the bill before the session adjourns, but not too late to stop it. If you or people you know have connections to any Senator, please ask them to put a "hold" on HR 3752. That prevents it from passing by unanimous consent. We may have less than 24 hours.

    If the bill is "held" there may be opportunity to fix it in a post-election session -- but if not, we would still rather the bill die than pass with these poison-pill amendments.

    If your Senator is on the Commerce Committee, that's even better: http://commerce.senate.gov/about/membership.html


    Personally, I'm in favor of having the AST in charge of the safety of the uninvolved public on the ground, as the bill was originally worded. However, I think that the last-minute changes to have the same agency regulate the safety of crew and passengers (and require the corresponding mountains of paperwork) would be an excellent way to kill off the budding US space tourism industry.

    MSNBC has a more in-depth article on this.

  7. Re:There isn't an industry yet (circa 1903) by kippy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry, but Kitty Hawk was a stunt, nothing more. I respect the engineering involved, but this is not flying. I don't care that some faceless person somewhere defined an arbitrary point as "the sky". Flight is CONTROLLED flight, minimally a transcontinental trip.

    Unfortunately, the Wright Brothers' technology is not applicable to intercontinental travel, as near as I can tell, so I'm not sure that this does anything for the aero-plane industry, except as a something for the press to report (which may be worth something, but I tend to doubt that it means much).

    The question is how many people are going to be fooled that this is really flight.

  8. Big demand for suborbital science by FleaPlus · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to RLV News (one of the more popular space news sites), there's a huge pent-up demand for cheap suborbital science experiments.

    From the report: "One space scientist, who puts experiments on sounding rockets, responded to my specification of a one week turnaround and a $200k price tag with "I don't believe these numbers (either the turnaround or the cost). Similar promises were made about the space shuttle 30 years ago, and they turned out to be grossly overoptimistic." ... Now that such performance has in fact been proven by the SpaceShipOne, these kinds of knee-jerk rejections will gradually be replaced by enthusiasm for the new vehicles. Substantially lower costs, rapid re-flight opportunities, safe return of payloads, and nearby operator monitoring will make them irresistible. Researchers working with sounding rockets in areas such as atmospheric sciences, magnetospherics, astronomy, microgravity, and remote sensing will want to use them. Also, those developing sensors and other equipment for orbital and deep space vehicles will want to carry out suborbital flight tests."

    Rutan has received several offers from scientists and organizations who want to fly experiments on SpaceShipOne. He's turned them down, however, as he wants to focus on using SpaceShipOne as a development platform to perfect his next-generation space vehicle, which will be sold not only to Virgin Galactic, but to four or five other unannounced companies.

    Interestingly, according to the BBC article: "Once its flight life is over, SpaceShipOne will be joining other notable ships of exploration at the Air and Space museum. Except for one piece. Rutan plans to pack up to 100g of SpaceShipOne to fly on the New Horizons' mission to Pluto - the first non-governmental launch into deep space."

  9. Sex in space... by anactofgod · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm definitely interested in scoring some zero-G space nooky. My mom did say that I should wait and make sure my first time is special.

    And, hopefully there will be room for two in that capsule, so that it can be even MORE special!

    *JOY*

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  10. On television... by Nick+Driver · · Score: 5, Funny

    I predict a new episode of Junkyard Wars, where the show will provide the rubber & N20 burning engine, but the teams will have to scrounge up the rest of the parts from the junkyard. Teams have the customary 8 hours to build a vehicle, and the first one that makes it to suborbital space... and comes back alive... wins a complete set of all 20 TV espisodes, plus the 2-hour movie, of Andy Griffith's "Salvage One" series on DVD. :-)