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Slackware Likely To Drop GNOME Support
An anonymous reader writes "After Hewlett Packard, who jumped off of supporting GNOME, Red Hat has followed by splitting their Desktop Linux out to Fedora which is community driven, and now distributions like Slackware have started to drop GNOME entirely in favor of KDE. Read more about their decision here. It looks like companies as well as distributions start focusing towards one solution." Patrick Volderking's quoted message doesn't announce a final decision to drop GNOME from Slackware, however -- and as the followups in that thread note, it could be interpreted as an endorsement of the good job done by Dropline in packaging GNOME for Slack.
"Last 10 desktop users drop Slackware"
So long, slack. You'll be missed.
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I didn't see anyone complaining about the kde dependency on libqt. libqt IS NOT FREE Software. It is released under a dual license QPL. It is GPL'ed in some cases. In the event that you want to release bsd licensed code that uses libqt...you must buy a commercial QT license. On windows linking against qt is even more restrictive! In theory once it is GPL'ed...it is GPL'ed. Legally (IANAL) dual licensing adds restrictions on top of the GPL and would most likely fail in court. However, no one knows for sure on any of this so the best thing to do is steer clear of dual licenses. (Mysql is all dual licensed by the commercial clause is no where near as restrictive.)
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If this is really possible then I don't know, but then why do even the highest rated themes look so bad? Do GNOME and KDE have a completely different idea of what a theme engine can do? Where can I get informations on the QT theme engine?
/way/ better GNOME themes at gnome-look.org.
For example and comparism, let's have a look at the highest rated KDE theme: Baghira
And the still not highest rated, but same style GNOME theme: GnoMetal
And there are
The themes from kde-look.org all look like made by geeks who have no idea of visual design whatsoever. Everybody could draw such a theme.
I don't hate it but it really sucks.
OK maybe I do hate it...
KDE is grossly overbloated. It consumes most of the resources available and slows the system down.
It is real noticeable on even a 2GHz Athlon & 1.6Gb RAM.
KDE looks terrible compared to gnome. Seems to be going more for cute than useful.
What's "KDE" mean? "Kawai Desktop Environment"?
How about less kawai and more function?
If Hello Kitty ever goes "open source" it would surely fit perfectly in KDE.
Gnome aint as bad yet. But it's getting there.
I still prefer fvwm to both. I do like useful much more than I like cute.
Any real shop would find it a bargin comparing the quality of the documentation alone.
It's NOTHING MORE than a god-forsaken GUI API. If I need excessive documentation, IT IS BROKEN and OVERCOMPLICATED. "Quality of documentation" means absolutely Jack Shit. I can get free quality documentation about the Windows API from Microsoft. It's not a reason to switch. Platforms will be chosen based on what most customers are running. Right now that's Windows, and there's no way in hell that anybody will switch to QT simply to provide a Linux version to the minority of their customers.
You might have some other legitimate reason for preferring Gtk, like for example your coders don't know C++, but blaming license cost is a joke.
Are you BRUTALLY RETARDED, or just a Trolltech employee? Once you have the hardware and OS:
Cost of developing on Windows: $0 (the Visual C++ compiler is free).
Cost of developing on Linux: $0.
Cost of developing with GTK: $0.
Cost of developing with QT: $7,480 PER FUCKING SEAT.
Imagine a development shop that has, say, 10 programmers. Are you going to tell me that $74,800 in licence costs is nothing? They could hire at least one more programmer as well as an intern - AND buy top-of-the-line hardware for everybody in the company for that! (FYI, sticking with one platform, Microsoft's compiler and development tools and API documentation are COMPLETELY free).
THE COST OF QT MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM TO YOU. BUT IT IS FOR THE VAST MAJORITY, INCLUDING ME.
If you expect Linux desktop applications to be written, stop trying to let Trolltech ass-rape potential developers with excessive tool costs. The tools should cost NOTHING. Linux development is supposed to be an inexpensive solution.. with QT it is not. Even Microsoft treats their developers with more respect and gives them more freedom to use the API than Trolltech does.
And so, I come to the conclusion that Trolltech Hates Linux. There can be no other reason for them to want to restrict and try to KILL LINUX DEVELOPMENT so much.
(A wxWidgets fan, who codes raw Win32 & MFC user interfaces for a living...)
Dropline is not that great. I have tried to install it twice on my AMD K6 II 500 megahertz pc and it has totally tanked the OS. It just is good foor older processers. It is a good thing I got Gnome installed before they tried to drop it. Man they will screw you every chance they get.
emerge kde = ALL the KDE packages... Did you need kdeedu? Did you need kdepim? Did you need kdeartwork? If not, then the long compile was your own dumb fault. Emerge kdebase = just the basic's. Then add the packages you need after that.
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I strongly disagree. IMHO, using C++ is a big mistake. Most free software is written in C, and thus it's easiest and most straightforward (and thus less buggy) to interface with C libraries. A simple look at the number of language bindings for Qt versus gtk+ shows that the latter is far more portable (or at least ported).
One can always wrap C with C++; the reverse is not true. Indeed, one can write GNOME or gtk+ apps in C++; so far as I know, it is impossible to write KDE or Qt apps in C.
If one wishes to use a real object-oriented language, there are much better options than C++ (SmallTalk, Objective C and CLOS all leap to mind). If one wishes to use a good low-level language, there are much better options than C++ (C leaps to mind). If one wishes to use an ultra-powerful language, there are much better options than C++ (Common Lisp leaps to mind). C++ is a dead end.
The free software community contains some of the best hackers in the world: they have judged C++ and found it wanting. Their discernment should not be ignored lightly.
Yeah, like "hooqqa" is a really cool fucking name...fuck off, you stupid cunt.
No Gnome sucks. I always disliked it and when I set Slackware 10.0 up that was the clincher - it screwed up my entire X11....
KDE is refreshingly superior to gnome. If I want an alternative, I'll look to IceWM or Fluxbox or something..