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iRiver to Build In-Dash Digital HD Players

An anonymous reader writes "It looks like iRiver is going to take over where the Rio Car left off. Their CEO announced today that they are near completion on a new plant in China that will produce HD-based in-dash digital music players for automobiles. The new plant can push out 700K units a month. With the iPod dominating the digital portable market, iRiver sees this as a wide-open area they can move into. According to MacWorld iRiver is the third leading seller of MP3 portables with 5.6% of the market, following the number two seller Rio which holds 6.4% of the market. And the Apple iPod? No surprise, only a whopping 65.8% of all units shipped. 92% if you only count HD portables."

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  1. Misleading marketshare numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    These numbers cover only US and are based on August sales. Since the new Ipod was recently launched, it isn't suprised that it sold well in the August.

    Apple's global marketshare in the digital audio player market is about 20%.

    1. Re:Misleading marketshare numbers by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're quick to knock Apple's statistics, but where do yours come from?

    2. Re:Misleading marketshare numbers by erick99 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Here is an interesting market share tidbit from an article OSViews.com:

      Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster said today that based on a survey of 600 teenagers, Apple's iPod is dominating "mindshare and market share." Munster said in a research note that of all the high school students surveyed, 16 percent currently own an iPod and 24 percent plan to buy an iPod within the next year. Munster also noted that the iPod ranked fourth on the teens' holiday wish list--behind clothes, money, and a car--even though the iPod was not an answer option and had to be written in as a response.

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  2. open markets by cwebb1977 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Any market can be regarded as "wide open" if you have products of superior quality. Well, unless you face a big bad wolf-like company or state-owned monopolist that's giving you plenty of headaches and lawsuits.

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  3. No wonder... by ayn0r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No wonder iPod has the lead. iRiver HD players really are great, and they sound better than iPods, but unfortunately they're still a bit pricey in comparison. The only contender atm would be Rio Karma, but for those not feeling like smashing them repeatedly every now and then the Karma isn't really an option... About time someone put an effort into car MP3 playback - I'm surprised it hasn't been done properly earlier.

  4. Re:What about patents and stuff... by erick99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    US patents apply to any product sold in the US regardless of origin. This was covered in-depth in a recent topic regarding patents. If you do a search it should come up and you can find the relevant law/code.

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  5. iriver mini? by geeber · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anybody know if iriver plans a competitor to the ipod mini? I have an iriver flash player that I absolutely love, but I am jonesing for 4 Gb of storage. Their little 1 Gb circular player was a little too soon and too small in capacity. However, I don't want to give up my FM radio and I don't want one of the bigger 20 Gb players. So I keep waiting...

  6. DAMN! by red5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    iRiver is the third leading seller of MP3 portables with 5.6% of the market, following the number two seller Rio which holds 6.4% of the market. And the Apple iPod? No surprise, only a whopping 65.8% of all units shipped.

    Reminds me of the old adage: "Second place is the first loser"

    I always thought that was a rather annoying way to look at it. In this case I think it applies. 65.8 : 6.4 is just over a factor of ten. Damn Apple really does dominate that market. Hopefully this works out for iRiver. Otherwise there probably not going to last long. They're getting creamed (at 5.6%).

    Though I suppose one can say by the same logic Apple is getting creamed in the computer market. Though I wonder how their numbers compare to other vendors (ei Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, etc) as opposed to apple vs. the entire PC market.

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  7. Re:In-Dash? by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA: "One that pulls from the dash when you want to load a significant volume of songs and takes flash media when the user only wishes to transfer a few tunes."

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  8. Correction by geighaus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These numbers are applicable for the US. I guess the situation is a bit different on a worldwide scale, as iPods are not an "in" thing in Europe by any standards, as well as fairly unknown here in Finland.

  9. Re:In-Dash? by blowdart · · Score: 3, Funny
    Oh please let it be wifi.

    Can't you just imagine it....

    some idiot set of spotty 17 year olds parked on the corner of your street in their Civic, complete with spoilers which are half the size of the car, blacked out windows, neon lights flashing under the body and the rear seats replaced with bass speakers.

    Up goes Netstumbler, or whatever and lo there's a connection there, "riceboy". You connect with the well documented passwords and there's the hard drive, full of ghetto rap.

    Hmm, so if I drag and drop this Vanilla Ice track and delete their "music" ....


    (In all seriousness removable drive in a USB2 cradle would be a nice way to provide for these devices, and you could take it out at night for security if necessary)

  10. Networking - The Missing Piece by superid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't want to yank my player out of the dash when I want to add songs. I want to drive my car into my garage and have it present on my home network. Then from my desktop I will drag/drop songs to the car.

    Why the heck is it taking the auto industry so long to add simple network connectivity to cars? I know it's a price sensitive market, and potentially a security problem, but I've been anticipating this "no brainer" option for years....where is it???

    1. Re:Networking - The Missing Piece by CmdrGravy · · Score: 3, Informative

      To be fair though I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to pay for this convience ( I certainly would ) because it is just so ... convienent.

      As regards security I can't see how it would be any more or less secure than any other wireless network and if it is only offering the opportunity to add new music or delete the existing music then in a worst case scenario all you'd have to do is park your car and download all your songs again.

      This would be such an obvious and useful piece of functionality it's really annoying it's not available yet.

  11. HD Based Car Players by Silwenae · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have an Omnifi for my home and car.

    The car version, a 20GB hard drive that I had professionally installed under my rear passenger seat, lasted a week. Made by Rockford-Fosgate, in a large case to support the hard drive, you would think it could take the bumps and shocks of the road. It couldn't.

    It would skip when I would hit a bump, even at 15 miles per hour pulling into the gas station. At the point it would skip, it would lock up for 30 seconds, then resume, but every 30 seconds would pause for another 30 seconds. Ejecting the hard drive and putting it back in would reset it to the point of the bump, then it would play fine until I hit another bump.

    The pro's of the unit were you could plug a USB 802.11b card into the casing, and automatically transfer your music wirelessly right into your garage. If you didn't have a wireless network, you could eject the hard drive and it had a USB port to hook up to your PC. It had a really slick interface in the car, and setting up a wireless network over the in-dash spin dial thing was a breeze, they did a a really good job with that, with the different ways you could input your WEP key.

    The cons were the bumping of the car made it pause, the USB wireless network adapter just kind of hung out in your car, no where to mount it. And the software interface on a Windows pc (SimpleCenter) was one of the most horrid music applications I have ever used. And it didn't do Ogg.

    I'm skeptical of any hard drive based car player until they can more than account for the shocks and bumps, and it needs to come with some kind of warranty plan. How long will those hard drives last?

  12. Re:the problem is by Inda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's nonsense.

    Wiring up a car stereo is easy. It's no different than pluging in the speakers of a house stereo. Removing the trim to hide wires is the hardest part but even 'shop monkeys' can do this easily enough.

    Are you also saying that my Alpine is worse than the piece of crap that came with my Honda? I don't think so.

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  13. I can't understand why they don't sell more.. by MikeHunt69 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If you put aside emotions for a minute and do a side-by-side comparison, the iRiver is much better than the iPod. The only thing the iPod maybe wins on is the user interface - and I've had absolutely no problems with my H340 iRiver.

    But the thing that closed the deal for me? USB hosting. I no longer have to lug my laptop around on holiday because I can plug my camera into the iRiver and store the files on it's internal HD. All the colour screen, upgradable firmware, internal mic, radio, remote control, not needing custom software by appearing as just another drive, etc. is just icing on the cake.

  14. Input jack by fossa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can someone please make a car with a stereo that has an audio input? Does such a thing exist even in aftermarket? Assuming I already have a portable music player, I could just plug it in to my car stereo. Instead, I'm stuck using some pathetic mini FM transmitter, or cassette adapter if I have a cassette deck, or buying a whole new HD car stereo.

    *sigh*

    1. Re:Input jack by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, several manufacturers have aux inputs of one form or another. My Sony stereo I had a decade ago had an aux input on the front of the unit. My current stereo (the factory-installed Alpine unit in my Mercury) does not have an aux input per se, but has support for a CD jukebox, and there is an aftermarket aux input box that fakes the head-end unit out into thinking it is a CDDJ - thus giving me tape, in-dash CD, and my OpenNEO35 80G MP3 player.

      I agree with you on the FM transmitter and cassette adapter - they bite rocks and suck. The FM units are usually NOT crystal or synthesized and drift all over the place, as well as the built-in limitation of 15kHz due to the way stereo multiplex works, and the cassette adapters have neither good base nor good treble response. I could not believe the difference when I got the CDDJ box installed.

      Personally, I'd like to see the high-end car stereo manufactures put in a 3.5mm aux jack on the front, a pair of RCA's on the back, and a Bluetooth receiver - but that is about as likely as seeing a good candidate for president. I've got the hot tea, anybody have an atomic vector plotter?