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iRiver to Build In-Dash Digital HD Players

An anonymous reader writes "It looks like iRiver is going to take over where the Rio Car left off. Their CEO announced today that they are near completion on a new plant in China that will produce HD-based in-dash digital music players for automobiles. The new plant can push out 700K units a month. With the iPod dominating the digital portable market, iRiver sees this as a wide-open area they can move into. According to MacWorld iRiver is the third leading seller of MP3 portables with 5.6% of the market, following the number two seller Rio which holds 6.4% of the market. And the Apple iPod? No surprise, only a whopping 65.8% of all units shipped. 92% if you only count HD portables."

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  1. Re:What about patents and stuff... by erick99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    US patents apply to any product sold in the US regardless of origin. This was covered in-depth in a recent topic regarding patents. If you do a search it should come up and you can find the relevant law/code.

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  2. iriver mini? by geeber · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anybody know if iriver plans a competitor to the ipod mini? I have an iriver flash player that I absolutely love, but I am jonesing for 4 Gb of storage. Their little 1 Gb circular player was a little too soon and too small in capacity. However, I don't want to give up my FM radio and I don't want one of the bigger 20 Gb players. So I keep waiting...

  3. Re:Misleading marketshare numbers by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're quick to knock Apple's statistics, but where do yours come from?

  4. DAMN! by red5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    iRiver is the third leading seller of MP3 portables with 5.6% of the market, following the number two seller Rio which holds 6.4% of the market. And the Apple iPod? No surprise, only a whopping 65.8% of all units shipped.

    Reminds me of the old adage: "Second place is the first loser"

    I always thought that was a rather annoying way to look at it. In this case I think it applies. 65.8 : 6.4 is just over a factor of ten. Damn Apple really does dominate that market. Hopefully this works out for iRiver. Otherwise there probably not going to last long. They're getting creamed (at 5.6%).

    Though I suppose one can say by the same logic Apple is getting creamed in the computer market. Though I wonder how their numbers compare to other vendors (ei Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, etc) as opposed to apple vs. the entire PC market.

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  5. Re:In-Dash? by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA: "One that pulls from the dash when you want to load a significant volume of songs and takes flash media when the user only wishes to transfer a few tunes."

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  6. Correction by geighaus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These numbers are applicable for the US. I guess the situation is a bit different on a worldwide scale, as iPods are not an "in" thing in Europe by any standards, as well as fairly unknown here in Finland.

  7. Networking - The Missing Piece by superid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't want to yank my player out of the dash when I want to add songs. I want to drive my car into my garage and have it present on my home network. Then from my desktop I will drag/drop songs to the car.

    Why the heck is it taking the auto industry so long to add simple network connectivity to cars? I know it's a price sensitive market, and potentially a security problem, but I've been anticipating this "no brainer" option for years....where is it???

  8. HD Based Car Players by Silwenae · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have an Omnifi for my home and car.

    The car version, a 20GB hard drive that I had professionally installed under my rear passenger seat, lasted a week. Made by Rockford-Fosgate, in a large case to support the hard drive, you would think it could take the bumps and shocks of the road. It couldn't.

    It would skip when I would hit a bump, even at 15 miles per hour pulling into the gas station. At the point it would skip, it would lock up for 30 seconds, then resume, but every 30 seconds would pause for another 30 seconds. Ejecting the hard drive and putting it back in would reset it to the point of the bump, then it would play fine until I hit another bump.

    The pro's of the unit were you could plug a USB 802.11b card into the casing, and automatically transfer your music wirelessly right into your garage. If you didn't have a wireless network, you could eject the hard drive and it had a USB port to hook up to your PC. It had a really slick interface in the car, and setting up a wireless network over the in-dash spin dial thing was a breeze, they did a a really good job with that, with the different ways you could input your WEP key.

    The cons were the bumping of the car made it pause, the USB wireless network adapter just kind of hung out in your car, no where to mount it. And the software interface on a Windows pc (SimpleCenter) was one of the most horrid music applications I have ever used. And it didn't do Ogg.

    I'm skeptical of any hard drive based car player until they can more than account for the shocks and bumps, and it needs to come with some kind of warranty plan. How long will those hard drives last?

  9. Re:the problem is by Inda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's nonsense.

    Wiring up a car stereo is easy. It's no different than pluging in the speakers of a house stereo. Removing the trim to hide wires is the hardest part but even 'shop monkeys' can do this easily enough.

    Are you also saying that my Alpine is worse than the piece of crap that came with my Honda? I don't think so.

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  10. I can't understand why they don't sell more.. by MikeHunt69 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If you put aside emotions for a minute and do a side-by-side comparison, the iRiver is much better than the iPod. The only thing the iPod maybe wins on is the user interface - and I've had absolutely no problems with my H340 iRiver.

    But the thing that closed the deal for me? USB hosting. I no longer have to lug my laptop around on holiday because I can plug my camera into the iRiver and store the files on it's internal HD. All the colour screen, upgradable firmware, internal mic, radio, remote control, not needing custom software by appearing as just another drive, etc. is just icing on the cake.

  11. Input jack by fossa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can someone please make a car with a stereo that has an audio input? Does such a thing exist even in aftermarket? Assuming I already have a portable music player, I could just plug it in to my car stereo. Instead, I'm stuck using some pathetic mini FM transmitter, or cassette adapter if I have a cassette deck, or buying a whole new HD car stereo.

    *sigh*

    1. Re:Input jack by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, several manufacturers have aux inputs of one form or another. My Sony stereo I had a decade ago had an aux input on the front of the unit. My current stereo (the factory-installed Alpine unit in my Mercury) does not have an aux input per se, but has support for a CD jukebox, and there is an aftermarket aux input box that fakes the head-end unit out into thinking it is a CDDJ - thus giving me tape, in-dash CD, and my OpenNEO35 80G MP3 player.

      I agree with you on the FM transmitter and cassette adapter - they bite rocks and suck. The FM units are usually NOT crystal or synthesized and drift all over the place, as well as the built-in limitation of 15kHz due to the way stereo multiplex works, and the cassette adapters have neither good base nor good treble response. I could not believe the difference when I got the CDDJ box installed.

      Personally, I'd like to see the high-end car stereo manufactures put in a 3.5mm aux jack on the front, a pair of RCA's on the back, and a Bluetooth receiver - but that is about as likely as seeing a good candidate for president. I've got the hot tea, anybody have an atomic vector plotter?