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Senate Wants Database Dragnet

Doc Ruby writes "Wired reports that the "Senate could pass a bill as early as Wednesday evening that would let government counter-terrorist investigators instantly query a massive system of interconnected commercial and government databases that hold billions of records on Americans".

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  1. As I said before... by Bull999999 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Senate will likely have its final vote on the bill, sponsored by Joseph Lieberman (D-Connecticut) and Susan Collins (R-Maine), Wednesday night.

    As I said before, don't trust any of the major parties to safeguard your privacy. This may, however, close the lack of information sharing between the agencies leading up to 9/11 that people bitched about.

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  2. Re:Hmm by Bull999999 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Fuck the police! Vote Kerry in 2004! Get your civil rights back!

    If you RTFA, you would've noticed that Joseph Lieberman (D-Connecticut) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) are sponsors of this bill.

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  3. Try the Fletch approach... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 2, Informative

    When signing up for loyalty card with grocers and drugstores use fake names...
    Ted Nugent
    Harry S Truman
    John Cocktosen
    If a company isinists on an SSN give them this... #078-05-1120
    It's a specimen number from the Eisenhower era. Works most of the time. Happy evasions!

    1. Re:Try the Fletch approach... by stealthyburrito · · Score: 2, Informative

      They are already onto that trick.

      The first time you use your credit/debit card with your real name on it, they will modify the database to reflect your real information.

      The only way to be safe is to use cash-only 100% of the time (which is a good principle to live by anyway).

  4. Wow. by c0dedude · · Score: 3, Informative

    What part of
    "Article [IV.]

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "

    don't they understand? You already can, with a warrant. The only reason a government would want these powers with this little cause is to spy on its citizens. They've already got sneak-and-peek warrants!

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  5. Re:What about foreigners ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    As it is, it's quite hard being a foreign national in the US presently, even if you are just a student.

    With the new SEVIS system in place, whatever little privacy you had is gone. It's mandatory for you to provide information on your current whereabouts to the authorities.

    I interned at a national lab this summer, and it was mandatory for me to notify my mentor of my whereabouts - if I was leaving town, even on weekends, I had to inform him. He would call me up every three hours to find out where I was. During weekdays, I had to call him up and get his permission before leaving for lunch.

    Rights? You do not have those.

    United States of America ceased to be the land of the free a long long time ago.

    You do not have any liberty here. Get over it. You're not wanted if you are foreign national. Your color and your race will be used against you, no matter what. I get pulled over at airports all time time because of that.

    I do not blame the people, because the people are nice. But the administration and the people running the country are not.

    They do not care about the principles that this country was built on. Sad.

  6. um. Remember Ad.Doubleclick.net? by the_REAL_sam · · Score: 2, Informative

    Even as far as private standards go, alot of that data was gathered in a really slimey way. Doubt me? Remember Ad.Doubleclick.net? They were/?are? basically "cyberstalking" internet users across websites. In the face of uproar, their "solution" was to grant users who didn't like [being spied upon] the option of opting out. {opt-in would have been the only ethical way of doing their thing}.

    So now you're telling me that some members of Congress want to commendeer that data, rather than having it destroyed, and banning the practice? It smacks of a police state. Why would any decent human pursue data trolling? Remember J Edgar Hoover.

    Such entities should be compelled to destroy their data, and desist from further cyberstalking.

    If the present attempt/trend [of government net widening] succeeds, we may live to see a second american revolution.

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