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30 Years Of Dungeons And Dragons

vasqzr writes "CNN has a story about Dungeons and Dragons celebrating its 30th birthday. 'An estimated 25,000 fans in 1,200 stores celebrated the anniversary Saturday, said Charles Ryan, brand manager for role-playing games at Wizards of the Coast, a Renton, Washington, company that owns Dungeons & Dragons.'"

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  1. Although correlation != causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Countries with D&D have seen their birthrates decrease for the past 30 years.

    1. Re:Although correlation != causation by WarPresident · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ahh, it saddens me to think of all the heroes that have fallen in countless D&D combats. The best warriors are routinely slaughtered, but for what purpose? What are they fihting and dying for?

      Usually for pissing off the DM... Took the last powdered donut without asking? Your character's last words might be:

      "What do you mean the feather fall wears off?"
      "C'mon guys, it's just a pile of dragon bones... guys?"
      "What's a tarrasque?"
      "HOW many Kobolds?"

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      Here come da fudge!
    2. Re:Although correlation != causation by Believe · · Score: 5, Informative

      For those like me who are not as well versed in D&D lore, Tarrasques are described here.

  2. 30 Years? by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow. I am very -- *rolls dice* -- surprised that it's already so long.

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  3. Thanks... by MrFluffyPants26 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..for telling me a day late.

  4. Obligatory by quintesson · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... and it still hasn't moved out of it's parents' basement!

    I wonder if the D20 system will last that long.

  5. Where're the Cheetos??? by zrk · · Score: 5, Funny



    Can I have some Mountain Dew?

  6. Re:30 years! by munehiro · · Score: 5, Funny

    1d20. Or is your happy birthday like a short sword hit ? :P

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  7. Wow.. by NightWulf · · Score: 5, Funny

    "An estimated 25,000 fans in 1,200 stores celebrated the anniversary Saturday". Wow, A vacuum of virginity only rivaled by that of a Star Trek convention. I kid! I kid!

  8. 24,999 guys with chainmail bikini posters. by leftie · · Score: 5, Funny

    1 chubby girl that shouldn't have worn a chainmail bikini.

  9. Changing Demographics? by subrosas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've seen sailors in the USN play D&D, lawyers play D&D, children play D&D with their parents. I've seen sysadmins play, financial advisors play, even a high school teacher or two.
    D&D has left the basement rec room geek nirvana of the early '80s and gone elsewhere, as the article (barely) alluded to.

  10. Old or young? by mhollis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Back in the Middle Ages (the 1980s) I had a group of about ten people, male and female playing regularly. We played one dungeon for about four months and it was then that I started allowing everyone to keep their characters and started reading history in order to accomodate their increasing character strengths and abilities.

    We were also playing games on Apple ][ computers...

    Sadly, I moved out of the area we were playing in to accept a job where I have now lived for 20 years. Last I heard the group still met, though once monthly. One of the girls in our group married one of the boys (they were well-suited for each other even though I always thought their characters took out their relationship frustrations on each other) and they now have two children.

    "So, Daddy, how did you meet mommy?"
    "Actually, she cast a spell that felled an orc that was just about to kill me."

    Another one of the girls married, then divorced one of the boys -- then married another boy from the group. They have no children, which is probably a good thing if my memory about their temperment serves me

    "So how did you two meet, anyway?"
    "I was married to one knight when he came in and swept me off my feet and onto his white charger, while fighting off an underworld demon. I cast a spell of enchantment on him and the rest is history."

    Funny thing is, I'm still unmarried.

    "Sincere, erudite dungeonmaster seeks....

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  11. New round, roll for initiative! by Fractal+Dice · · Score: 5, Interesting

    D&D really was one of those rare cases of something "new". Before the net was popular, it was a great tool for social networking for geeks. Every tech job I've ever had came not from my experience or my education, but from contacts made over the years around gaming tables.

    Alas, it's a also a good example of how success is measured differently between sellers and consumers. D&D never really went into decline around here, but once you own the main rule books and some dice, you don't _need_ anything else and so game stores moved more heavily into card games where the profits were.

    The d20 licensing scheme is very, very cool, although I have to admit that I still don't quite trust TSR/Wizards/Hasbro (their first reaction to the net was similar to the RIAA but then after an initial fan-relations-disaster they changed their tune and actually made an effort to reach out to the fans and address legitimate need to be able to share).

    It's interesting watching a second generation of gamers start to grow up (and yes, there is a large and healthy population of them). They don't have to be saddled with as much of the "it's evil!" baggage (it's still out there, but weakened as the geek have inherited the earth)

  12. Re:Nice, Sort Of by skroz · · Score: 5, Insightful
    you have to ask if the depth of the game has been replaced by the stats that go with it. The answer has to be that the game has indeed shifted from a game of detailed and rich storytelling, such as with Ed Greenwood's additions, to a game of character advancement by hacking and slashing monsters, and people

    You forget one very important thing about D&D and RPGs in general... the game is what you make of it. The system is incidental. If your GM and players all want a game about hacking and slashing, then the d20 rules will give you a great place to do that. If your group wants action, adventure, character development, intrigue, and all of the "flavor," then you can also do that within the framework that WoTC has provided with third edition. Or you could use another system. Or use no system at all.

    Personally, I'm thrilled with the changes made from 2nd edition to 3rd. 3.5 doesn't sit as well, but they really did fix a lot from 3.0. But the books themselves are there as tools to help GMs (sorry, DMs) build worlds, and it's up to the storyteller to create a world in which the players can find adventure. You don't need rules for that... you need rules to keep everyone from arguing with each other when you do need to figure out what happens to the kobold when it gets hit with the +5 axe of vorpal soothing.

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  13. Re:Yeah - definately ! by ahknight · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bluff check, DC 15.

  14. DND Humor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ED: You see a well-groomed garden. In the middle, on a small hill, you see a gazebo.
    ERIC: A gazebo? What color is it?
    ED: (Pause) It's white, Eric.
    ERIC: How far away is it?
    ED: About 50 yards.
    ERIC: How big is it?
    ED: (Pause) It's about 30 feet across, 15 feet high, with a pointed top.
    ERIC: I use my sword to detect whether it's good.
    ED: It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo!
    ERIC: (Pause) I call out to it.
    ED: It won't answer. It's a gazebo!
    ERIC: (Pause) I sheathe my sword and draw my bow and arrows. Does it respond in any way?
    ED: No, Eric. It's a gazebo!
    ERIC: I shoot it with my bow (rolls to hit). What happened?
    ED: There is now a gazebo with an arrow sticking out of it.
    ERIC: (Pause) Wasn't it wounded?
    ED: Of course not, Eric! It's a gazebo!
    ERIC: (Whimper) But that was a plus-three arrow!
    ED: It's a gazebo, Eric, a gazebo! If you really want to try to destroy it, you could try to chop it with an axe, I suppose, or you could try to burn it, but I don't know why anybody would even try. It's a @#%$*& gazebo!
    ERIC: (Long pause - he has no axe or fire spells) I run away.
    ED: (Thoroughly frustrated) It's too late. You've awakened the gazebo, and it catches you and eats you.
    ERIC: (Reaching for his dice) Maybe I'll roll up a fire-using mage so I can avenge my paladin...

  15. Gary Gygax by serutan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sadly, the article only makes a passing reference to the patriarch of D&D. I guess ownership is everything nowadays. GameBanshee.com has a nice interview with Gygax accompanied by lots of D&D artwork.