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Annual Child's Play Charity Drive Begins

Many, many thanks to the gentlemen at Penny Arcade for the kickoff of their now annual Child's Play Charity Drive. The drive is intended to hook up willing people in our community with children's hospitals across the country, to spread some geeky christmas love to young folks that need it. This year the drive extends across the country, and you can donate toys to hospitals in Seattle, Oakland, San Diego, Houston, and D.C.. Tycho has a little startup post on Penny Arcade, as well.

119 comments

  1. Uh... by fahrvergnugen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Did I miss something, or does the hospital in Oakland want 20 Donkey Konga bongos, but no actual copies of the game?

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    1. Re:Uh... by DeltaStorm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Some hospitals receive games free from the company. Since the bongos will get the most wear and tear that could be why they want a supply of them.

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    2. Re:Uh... by BMonger · · Score: 5, Informative

      It is entirely possible they already have copies of the game and simply need more bongos for multiplayer.

    3. Re:Uh... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe they want to implement TCP/IP over bongo drums ?

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    4. Re:Uh... by ClockChaos · · Score: 3, Informative

      The bongos come with a copy of the game. (The game is bundled with the bongos). This is a little awkward in that if you are doing 4-players with the bongos, you've got 3 extra copies of the game.

    5. Re:Uh... by fahrvergnugen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      While it's true that Donkey Konga comes with a single set of bongos, it's also possible to buy the bongos without the game, they're just currently very, very hard to find because Donkey Konga is so fun in multiplayer. So fun, as you pointed out, that people are willing to buy 3 spare copies of the game just to get 4-player games going.

      The stand-alone bongos are the item that the Oakland hospital has on its wishlist, not the bongos with game included.

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    6. Re:Uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, those sick and dying kids can really wail on some bakelite bongos, lemme tell ya.

  2. No bicycles please by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It's important to keep kids away from pedalphiles.

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    1. Re:No bicycles please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh, it appears that the moderators today have no appreciation for the art of the pun.

      Does anybody?

    2. Re:No bicycles please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zing!!!

  3. The Missing Link by nanojath · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Anyone else comment on the fact that one day the Penny Arcade link (along with several others) just done dissapeared off the front page of /.?

    What was that, just quietly reclaiming some real estate? I actually had no idea what the URL was (I figured it out).

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  4. I hope by Anubis350 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope these guys get lots of press this year. They are absolutely right in being indignant about the world's ills being laid at the feet of violent games, movies, etc. and a drive like this will give a good face lift to the public perception of gaming.

    "You guys have proven yourselves to be a powerful force when stirred into action. Here is your opportunity to use that power to do some real good."

    amen, go and dig through your pockets ppl, wait a little to buy doom3 and donate here instead.

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    1. Re:I hope by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Informative

      I just hope they get accurate press. Last time around the press made a number of incorrect statements when commenting on them. They have a press page this year but it hardly provides enough information to make sure that sort of thing doesn't happen again. A complete press kit would have a bio on each of the principals, as complete a schedule as possible, contacts for more information (that much has been provided anyway) and basically anything else that you want the public to know. Their press page is extremely ungainly, for example at the top it says that "The mini interview below was answered by Tycho" but below where it asks who's involved the page says "Child's Play was started by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins of the online comic strip Penny Arcade" which leaves you wondering (if you don't already know) who the hell Tycho is. If this is an example of the quality of work from BeSeen Communications then they deserve to fold up immediately. Integrated Solutions my ass.

      With all that said, these guys clearly have their hearts and their heads in the right place, and putting out your own effort to help people is what charity is all about. Giving money (or material items) is just an extension of that, since money represents effort. I wish them all the luck in spite of their lack of media finesse :)

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  5. Im proud of those guys. by juuri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the same way I am proud of Stewart for going after the Crossfire idiots. No one has a moral responsibility to do good in the world. Life really is about survival of yourself and those you love and care for. However it is nice to see people who, when given a large mindshare of public trust, do something good with it.

    I know some people in the past year have bagged on Child's Play because they didn't see it being altruistic enough or as self serving, but c'mon that they choose to do anything at all is great! By something as simple as coordinating the desires of gamers to occasionally do something nice for someone else a lot of kids are going to have much better holidays and the whole group of gamers end up looking better in the eyes of the public who are constantly flooded with negative images about gamers (OMG DOOM MADE ME KILL MY BROTHER WITH A CHAINSAW AND GRAB RANDOM GIRL TITTIES!@!!!!!!!!).

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    1. Re:Im proud of those guys. by version5 · · Score: 1

      "...the whole group of gamers end up looking better in the eyes of the public who are constantly flooded with negative images about gamers."

      From Childsplay.org:
      "Last year we set up a charity called Child's Play. We set it up because we were angry the media decided to blame all the world's problems on games and gamers."

      "Child's Play was conceived as a way to combat negative portrayals of gamers in the media"

      "STUDENTS! We figure a good way to fix the negative press about gamers is positive press about gamers in student newspapers.

      I'm not really sure how this really improves the image of gamers. To me, it says that gamers want people to think they are good people, and willing to invest some cash to prove it. I don't think there's anything horribly wrong with that, but the number of times they repeat their PR goals reveals just how focused they are on that part of it. There's nothing wrong with spending money to make yourself look better, but that's not particularly noteworthy, nor is it really charity when its designed around return on investment. There's something wrong with being so blatant about it.

      In conclusion, a quote:
      "When you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward."

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    2. Re:Im proud of those guys. by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 1

      I'm not really sure how this really improves the image of gamers. To me, it says that gamers want people to think they are good people, and willing to invest some cash to prove it. I don't think there's anything horribly wrong with that, but the number of times they repeat their PR goals reveals just how focused they are on that part of it. There's nothing wrong with spending money to make yourself look better, but that's not particularly noteworthy, nor is it really charity when its designed around return on investment. There's something wrong with being so blatant about it.

      In conclusion, a quote:
      "When you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward."


      If you truly look at all the good their project has done and will do, and all you can see is gamers spending money to make themselves look better...I pity you.

      And i'm curious - they and everyone that donated raised ~$250,000 in toys and cash to give away last year...What have you done lately to have the right to complain so?

    3. Re:Im proud of those guys. by version5 · · Score: 1

      ...all you can see is gamers spending money to make themselves look better..

      Their website says very clearly that the purpose of the charity is to combat negative stereotypes of gamers. Its the first thing you see on the About page, and its repeated in various forms throughout the site. Its hard to claim that I'm misinterpreting their mission.

      What have you done lately...?

      Its tempting to reply to this question, but as I said before, I believe that virtue is its own reward and you shouldn't trumpet your charitable deeds. Let it suffice to say that I have no deficiency in this area.

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    4. Re:Im proud of those guys. by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 1

      Their website says very clearly that the purpose of the charity is to combat negative stereotypes of gamers. Its the first thing you see on the About page, and its repeated in various forms throughout the site. Its hard to claim that I'm misinterpreting their mission.

      It also says several times around the site that the goal of the charity is to help sick kids stuck in the hospital, and some lines about using the numbers of the gamer community to do good in the world.

      I guess the point is moot, anyhow, as you seem to be pretty well biased against non-anonymous charity, and I doubt i'll change your mind.

      In the end though, even if it annoys the hell out of you, a lot of sick kids have had their lives made happier because of PA's work and organizing, and that's what really counts.

      Its tempting to reply to this question, but as I said before, I believe that virtue is its own reward and you shouldn't trumpet your charitable deeds. Let it suffice to say that I have no deficiency in this area.

      Well, can't say I didn't expect that.

    5. Re:Im proud of those guys. by mink · · Score: 1

      The reason they are making more noise this time seems to be that last time when they were not loud about it, local news media made up stories about how some christian school charity was behind it. They even couldnt get the totals for donated $$ and toys right in the news last time.

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    6. Re:Im proud of those guys. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh OK, I get it. So the reason they are making noise is to make sure they get the credit?

    7. Re:Im proud of those guys. by mink · · Score: 1

      Probably, also they might just be trying to have the news be accurate about the scope of the project and who is behind it.
      I know truth in news broadcasts and accuracy like what you get from actualy checking the facts are a radical idea for todays media, but I think they might be able to really do something with thise new ideas.

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  6. Penny Arcade? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Penny Arcade"? Funny name for a catholic school?

    1. Re:Penny Arcade? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      actually, this was not offtopic.

      CTFL (click the fucking link) before moderating.

    2. Re:Penny Arcade? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Offtopic"? Apparently irony is too subtle for some moderators. The link referred to the last "Child's Play" drive, in which the media underreported the money that they raised, and incorrectly attributed the charity to a local Catholic school, instead of to Penny Arcade. Gabe and Tycho were pissed.

    3. Re:Penny Arcade? by alex_ware · · Score: 1

      how is this offtopic apart from it being posted by an ac
      (just register mods just search for AC's)

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    4. Re:Penny Arcade? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meta-moderated unfair. This was not offtopic.

  7. Last year they raised 1/4 million USD in cash/toys by doormat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I surely hope they surpass that number this year. Its a great thing they are doing, someone is turning their large audience into a positive force for children.

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  8. Been following Penny Arcade for years.. by ID000001 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And watch them grows, right from the material they post about, and the skill to their drawing, all the way to their artical and follower. They truely did came a long way, but at no time have I been able to predict a community can grows into such respectable manner. A Video game community! And to top it off, this is only the second time they try this. Maybe it will turn into someone big.. Hell, it already is something big, in just two years. Considering how much Penny Arcade have grow in the past.. I can not imagine what Child's play can turn into. It could become something huge, something national.. We shall see.

    1. Re:Been following Penny Arcade for years.. by ID000001 · · Score: 1

      English is not my first language. I deeply apology for such short coming.

  9. Whoa. by NaugaHunter · · Score: 3, Funny

    At first, I thought maybe the new Child's Play movie already needed financial help.

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    1. Re:Whoa. by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, they're raising money to create Chuckie dolls. It's a way to generate revenue: Chuckie dolls cause injuries, and hospitals fix 'em.

      It's kind of like how programmers sometimes support Microsoft...

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  10. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by DigitumDei · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmm lets see. Their audience is a bunch of gamers who read their site because its game related. Sure they could hold a charity to donate food and clothes to children in Sudan (cos they sure as hell will not benifit from a game console), but they'd probably end up doing a whole lot less good since their audience would be spending a whole lot less.

    Just because somewhere in the world there are people with even less, doesn't mean they shouldn't concentrate on an area where they cam do the most good.

  11. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I knew there was going to be at least on naysayer about Child's Play. Here is a clue bat ... kids who are sick and dying is sad no matter where they live. The charity of this cause is no less because there are others out there that may be more "important". It's not like this charity takes away from other ones. It simply adds to the general prosperisty. Please remove yourself from your elevated cavalry.

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  12. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by 2Flower · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back when I was 13, I was laid up in the hospital for about a month to have a pair of surgeries involving grafting a metal rod to my spine to keep it from going crooked.

    If not for the fact that Nintendo's Gameboy came out in stores a month beforehand and I had one, I would've gone completely nuts. Video games are a very good distraction for children who are suffering and need release, need a break from having little to do but twiddle thumbs, watch reruns on daytime television and hope the pain will subside soon once the meds kick in.

    Support Child's Play. It's not feeding the hungry, but it's bringing solace to people in dire need of it, and that's good too.

  13. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by araemo · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Just a quick one, because this touches on a personal pet peeve:

    Why should we, as americans(No, the parent posters may not be american, but myself and the PA guys are..) help other countries before we help ourselves?

    We run around the world causing wars and causing hardship, then spend 10 years doing a half-assed job at cleaning it up.. all because we believe we are morally superior..

    Yet we let many of the same 'wrongs' we say we are going to war to end persist in our own country. Fix our country first, THEN fix the rest of the world.

  14. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by cyber0ne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about fighting for insurance for everyone

    Sounds good. Let me know when you get this charity idea off the ground. Or, were you just shooting off your mouth and hoping that somebody else will bear the burden of "charity" for you? If this is the case, then go fuck yourself.

    As for the guys at Penny Arcade, why flame them for choosing another charitable route? Face it, you can't help everybody with everything. But they're helping _somebody_ with _something_ which is better than most people do. Different charity organizations do different things. Some may be bigger, some may reach more people, but they all do some good (well, except the ones that are actually scams... but those are easy enough to avoid). Personally, my favorite is helping the Kiwanis International Foundation fight Iodine Deficiency Disorder. If you're looking for a way to stretch your dollar to help as many children around the world as possible, they're a good one.

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  15. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Uhh, many of the requested Spanish items are books. Living in Tucson, AZ, I know very many people who speak English and Spanish fluently, but their parents or grandparents (first generation immigrants) speak only Spanish. It's probably aimed for situations like that, Spanish speaking parents (or bilingual volunteers) reading to their children.

    Believe it or not, there are 100% legal US citizens who speak Spanish and use hospitals.

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  16. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who deserves a wish more, a kid in Sudan or a kid in a US hospital?

    Are you implying that a sick child in the US is somehow less important than a sick child anywhere else? I didn't realize that children had a measurable value associated with them.

  17. Re:Ugh. Spanish everything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Blaim the liberals for not capping the 10+ Million dollar lawsuits.

    I "blaim" asshat polititrolls like you, actually. Almost every excessive award is appealed down, and real world data has shown that capping awards may bring down premiums 20%. That's a lot. It sure as hell isn't the majority.

    But you're not really interested in truth, are you?

  18. Hey Crackhead by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Yes, you. You sick fucker. On Wednesday morning I emerged from my girlfriend's building by U.N. Plaza to find that you had sawed the tops off both the sparkplugs on my motorcycle. At the time, I had no idea why anyone would do that. Other than the sparkplugs, the bike was untouched. Some kind of bizarre vandalism? A fraternity prank gone awry? I had no idea. All I knew is that I looked like a huge douchebag riding the Muni to work in a padded motorcycle jacket and helmet.

    Because the bike was immobilized I got a $35 street sweeping ticket that night. Thursday I had it towed to the shop ($45) where they replaced the sparkplugs and the boots ($50 including labor). They explained to me that "people" - I use the term loosely here - like you break off the tops of spark plugs and use the porcelain tubes to smoke crack. As an engineer and former MacGyver fan, in a way I think this is kind of cool. But then I remember that I just paid $100 for YOUR crackpipes, and I get angry again.

    Crackhead, it was really good to have my bike back though. I rode home from the shop with a couple of spare sparkplugs and a smile on my face. I figured the next time I parked at my girlfriend's place overnight I would have to buy some crackpipes and tape them to my bike as a peace offering. Overall, I wasn't that upset. Despite having to ride the bus for three days and dropping a hundred bones at the shop, I had gained some fascinating knowledge, a new set of sparkplugs, and a pretty funny anecdote about how fucked up you are, and how our paths once crossed briefly in the night.

    But you couldn't just let sleeping dogs lie, could you Crackhead. You couldn't just stay in on Friday, watch Letterman through the window of a home electronics store and then call it a night. You couldn't rest on your laurels. Two porcelain sparkplug crackpipes just wasn't enough for you, was it Crackhead? You just had to come back for more.

    This morning, a scant fifteen hours after I rode it out of the shop, I found my motorcycle violated once again. This time you only took the right one - maybe you were having an off night. At least this time I had a spare sparkplug and the tools to fix it - or so I thought - having ordered a 73-piece toolset from SEARS.com last week. But no, the sparkplug socket in my new toolset was for American sparkplugs. So I had to go down to the neighborhood Ace hardware. They had an 18mm socket that would fit over my sparkplug, but it was for a 1/2" drive ratchet. My toolkit only has 1/4" and 3/8" ratchets. So I had to buy a 1/2" ratchet along with the socket. Even though the clerk took pity on me and gave me the senior citizen discount (I'm 25) it still cost me $22 all told. Now, you might say that I should have just gotten a 3/8"-to-1/2" drive adaptor instead of springing for the whole ratchet. And to that I say "Shut the hell up, Crackhead, I'm not finished. And besides, I was eventually going to buy a 1/2" ratchet anyway so it's probably not worth it to take it back now."

    OK, now I'm rambling. But the point is, Crackhead, that you have done me wrong. Now, I get that you love crack. That is totally understandable. I've heard it is really fun, at first, and quite addictive. What I don't understand is,

    YOU ARE A CRACKHEAD. WHY DON'T YOU OWN A CRACKPIPE?

    I am an engineer. Do you ever see me shaking down bums in the Loin for a calculator and sliderule? No, you don't. Because engineering is the main thing I do, I went and bought myself a calculator. The main thing you do is crack. How do you get by without a crackpipe? The other crackheads must clown on you non-stop. I mean, the fucking saw you used to saw off my sparkplugs is probably worth five or ten bucks. Why not sell or trade it for a crackpipe? You really haven't put much thought into this, have you?

    Please, Crackhead, please don't tell me you sold your crackpipe to buy crack. Even a stupid crackhead such as yourself couldn't possibly be that stupid.

    I've decided that taping crackpipes to my motorcycle would be tantamount

    1. Re:Hey Crackhead by shadowcabbit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We're both going to get moderated into the seventh level of hell for this, but it's just too damn poetic for me to mod down. Way to vent your rage, motorcycle man. I salute you.

      But next time, please use a blog for this.

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    2. Re:Hey Crackhead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is definitely off-topic, but funny as hell :-) Especially the implied assumption that /. is a good forum for reaching a crackhead...

    3. Re:Hey Crackhead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Now, you might say that I should have just gotten a 3/8"-to-1/2" drive adaptor instead of springing for the whole ratchet.

      As a matter of fact, that's exactly what I was about to say. Anyway, that sucks. Sorry about that. New York may be stuck with the real UN, not just a "plaza", but at least people here stopped being completely batshit shortly after Giuliani took over.

    4. Re:Hey Crackhead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      going backwards like that is uncommon but i suspect an adapter could be found. it's always easier to go from larger ratchet to smaller because the shear forces would be less.

      kudos on the rat poison though! i would suspect that the plugs would be washed before use and most poison would wash away with cycles of rain.

      a better idea: buy some cheap $0.25 sparkplugs and just lay them on the ground by your bike.

    5. Re:Hey Crackhead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Besides being off topic, I read this on CraigsList like a month ago...

    6. Re:Hey Crackhead by Zapraki · · Score: 1

      First things first, as offtopic and troll as that post may be, it certainly was funny, and well-written too. Matt: I can only imagine your pain.

      I think the most amusing part is not simply that poor Matt thought that /. was the best means to reach Mr. Crackhead but that this Penny Arcade Child's Play thread was the best place to post it.

      Truly, you have made my day a little brighter.

    7. Re:Hey Crackhead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the crackhead who stole your spark plugs, all I can say is:

      Thanks. First ones worked out so well, I had to make my buddies some!

    8. Re:Hey Crackhead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really don't see a problem with just using the rat poison. It's not like you expect people to LICK your plugs, you just wanted to keep the rats away. If its anyone's fault its his.

      Besides, its probably merciful, he obviously isn't leading a very fulfilling life.

    9. Re:Hey Crackhead by maximilln · · Score: 1

      having ordered a 73-piece toolset from SEARS.com last week

      Cheapskate. You shouldn't settle for anything less than 100 pieces.

      At least this time I had a spare sparkplug and the tools to fix it - or so I thought - having ordered a 73-piece toolset from SEARS.com last week

      As an engineer you should be well aware that, whenever ordering tools, make sure that they fit the application. You failed.

      My toolkit only has 1/4" and 3/8" ratchets

      That's why.

      They had an 18mm socket that would fit over my sparkplug, but it was for a 1/2" drive ratchet

      That's also why. If you'd purchased a worthwhile toolkit you would have a 18mm deepwell. If you had, as an engineer, ordered the appropriate tools for the job you would have the correct pieces.

      Even though the clerk took pity on me and gave me the senior citizen discount (I'm 25) it still cost me $22 all told

      For an engineer who rides a crotch rocket that's not much to complain about. You probably drop that on lunch in New York.

      This morning, a scant fifteen hours after I rode it out of the shop, I found my motorcycle violated once again

      It's obvious to the rest of the world (including me, excluding you) that your girlfriend has asked one of her friends to aid in stress-testing you. You're obviously not holding up very well.

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  19. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by chrish · · Score: 1

    Uh... why does the charity have to meet some sort of vague degree of difficulty to be worthy? Your favourite charity isn't necessarily going to be someone else's.

    The point of Child's Play was to show The Media that gamers aren't psychotics-in-training, and to do something good at the same time.

    They do an online gaming comic, they're not the Beastie Boys.

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  20. Best Quote by jcsehak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    from the site:

    "Michael Thomas, the PA reader who helped us add up all the toys purchased as of late last night also had this very nice quote at the end of his message to us:

    'Now I understand what all of the anti-videogame people ment when they said children raised on games would grow up abnormal. They were right, we'd all grow up with really big hearts.'"

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  21. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by CVaneg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Haven't you ever played The Game Of Life? The best part was selling off your kids and moving into the millionaire's estate.

  22. Play-Doh rocks. by imac.usr · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Absolutely no child, healthy or sick, should be deprived of the sheer joy that is Play-Doh. It's colorful, malleable, non-toxic, and even smells funny. Best of all, it comes with no instructions, flashing lights, or piezoelectronic voices - you have to make all those things up as you go along.

    Is that the perfect toy or what?

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    1. Re:Play-Doh rocks. by v0yd · · Score: 1

      And it tastes good too.

    2. Re:Play-Doh rocks. by cfuse · · Score: 1
      Absolutely no child, healthy or sick, should be deprived of the sheer joy that is Play-Doh. It's colorful, malleable, non-toxic, and even smells funny. Best of all, it comes with no instructions, flashing lights, or piezoelectronic voices - you have to make all those things up as you go along.

      Is that the perfect toy or what?

      Coupled with the fact that you can make a reasonable rip-off with flour, water and food colouring for next to nothing. Bonus points for using cornflour and water to demonstrate dilatancy, ie. make your own silly putty.

  23. FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's considered bad form to reply to yourself pretending to be someone agreeing with you.

    1. Re:FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's considered bad form to reply to yourself pretending to be someone agreeing with you.

      That is so true.

  24. Idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering that Slashdot is in Freemont, California, and Penny Arcade is in Spokane, Washington, try rubbing your two brain cells together and see if you can make a spark of intelligence.

  25. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

    I believe that's what the grandparent tried to say - they could've tried to provide children in Sudan with food and clothes, but then they would get fewer donations meaning that they don't use their potential to the fullest. But because they ask games to spend money on games (even though they're for someone else) they generate as many donations as they can, thus using their full potential to do good.

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  26. Mod parent up. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

    Actually, what the parent said can be applied to just about every country in the world.

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  27. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by gethorizontal · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm not saying I don't agree to some extent, but when you say 'fix our country first', just when would you consider this 'done'? We CAN help our country and help others at the same time. But to put on a hold on help 'til our country is juuuuust right would be a hold to eternity. Child's Play is targeted to help sick children. Unfortunately, there will Always be sick children.

    It's one big world and we're all in it. A little help to a neighbor in need (and we DON'T give that much help if you look at the figures) IS the right thing to do.

  28. Child's Play has multiple references by SeanDuggan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ^_^ Kodomo no Omocha, a piece of Japanese anime, was released under that title. (It's also been released as "Child's Toy" and "Kodocha" that I know of)

    Honestly, I don't know what the significance of the name is in Tycho and Gabe's heads. (Can't read the article here at work, as their site is flagged as Mature/Gaming) I would be mildly surprised if they hadn't realized the immediate association in people's heads to the horror movie, but maybe they simply wrote up the title as a literal rendition of what they planned the drive to be about, children getting joy through playing.

    That said, I was a contributor last year. Twenty bucks went that some kid out there got an art kit that I would have killed to have had as a child. *wry grin* And then to balance things out, I gave $20 to a chairty providing food and shelter so I guess I was out $40, but eh...

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  29. WARNING: Totally OT by gustgr · · Score: 1

    I think it is one of the first times I have seen the little christmas tree logo as the story's topic. Sweet!

  30. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 0, Troll

    "I didn't realize that children had a measurable value associated with them."

    Yup.
    +2 points if they havnt grown pubes yet
    +5 points if you make them bleed
    -3 points if they consent
    -10 points if you paid for it (either to them or to their parents)-- That takes the sport out of it.
    +5 if you get it on camera
    +5 if you post it on usenet.

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  31. Trust Amazon? by quitcherbitchen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm curious what role Amazon plays in all this. Many of the games I looked at were priced at retail which makes me wonder how big their slice of the pie is. I'd like to know exactly how much they take off the top for their overhead and if they pass the profits along to the charity.

    This should really be a question in their FAQ.

    1. Re:Trust Amazon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the fuck up. Did you even look into this at all? They use Amazon because pretty much everyone has access to it nationally.

    2. Re:Trust Amazon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey quitcherbitchen, how about youquitcherbitchen?

    3. Re:Trust Amazon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it matter?

    4. Re:Trust Amazon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      amazon gets all the money, its just a wishlist.. you're not donating money you're donating toys.. you buy a toy on that list and its shipped to the hospital.. amazon makes $$$

    5. Re:Trust Amazon? by Helios1182 · · Score: 1

      You can either buy toys through Amazon like you would for anyone that you wanted to get a gift. They take the normal sale price and ship it to the hospital. They make out just like normal. As for cash they explained it on one of the pages: Q: How does Child's Play work? A: We have partnered with Amazon.com, which hosts a series of "Wish Lists" stocked with toys the hospitals have requested, as well as age appropriate videogames and game systems selected by Child's Play. Simply choose the hospital nearest you from our interactive map at http://www.childsplaycharity.org and the toys you purchase will be delivered directly. We also accept cash donations via Paypal to childsplaycharity@penny-arcade.com, which will be split evenly among the hospitals in this year's event. There are no "administrative fees" or other hidden costs associated with giving to Child's Play - every cent is passed on.

    6. Re:Trust Amazon? by quitcherbitchen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I like the idea of being able to control how my donations are being used by donating something from the wishlist. However, if Amazon isn't compromising at all, then the cash option sounds the best. I do think this is a great cause and I like the theme behind it.

      I had seen the details you posted on the Child's Play site, but I still want to know the details behind the Amazon deal. For an opportunity to gain hundreds of thousands of dollars of business, I would think they are offering more service than a simple wishlist.

  32. It feels sooooo damn good to do it. by Dot+Com+Drew · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm a broke student (as in 3 months late on my rent) and I still conned a few friends into helping me get an xbox for childs play last year. This year I'm asking that people give stuff (items or $$) to them instead of a lot of the smaller stuff that I get.

    This is the perfect charity for me and I love the feeling every time that I turn on my xbox that there is some kid/family/whatever not too far from where I live who can enjoy a fun game for a while and forget about whatever pain they are in.

    http://www.childsplaycharity.org/
    http://www.childsplaycharity.org/
    http://www.childsplaycharity.org/

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    1. Re:It feels sooooo damn good to do it. by Chambers81 · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right, and the wish lists as set up are meant for everyone to be able to participate. You can buy a book for $4 if that is all you can afford. Hell, for the price of a bottle of beer in a bar here in D.C. you can give someone in a hospital 20 minutes of distraction and fun.

    2. Re:It feels sooooo damn good to do it. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't you pay yout bills first THEN instead of getting drunk or stoned with the leftover, spend THAT on charity?

    3. Re:It feels sooooo damn good to do it. by Exdaix · · Score: 1

      Being a Boy Scout since I was in early elementary school, I believe I've learned one key thing out of the whole experience: Service to your community matters most, no matter what.

  33. Re:Specificity cripples charity by Chambers81 · · Score: 1

    Is requesting specific items so bad? They are working with the hospital, not to mention the fact that this is a somewhat specific minded charity drive. First, the hospital can't accept certain things, new or used. The example they give are stuffed animals on their site, as this type of toy is prone to gather germs in an already germ infested hospital environment. Also keep in mind that this is gamers organizing a drive that was to focus on getting things you wouldn't normally have a hospital or charity buying or donating...notably consoles and gameboys, and games to go with them. "I wonder why a toy drive is bothered with at all, why not just ask for cash?" You should note that cash donations are possible, and they have both a mail option and a paypal one. These guys have their bases covered. But the wonderful thing about this system is that you can log onto amazon, buy something specific that you might be interested in the hospitals and the children receiving, and know exactly what your donation goes to. I'd think this would make it easier for people to give, you've offered suggestions for donations, 15 pages worth in 5 different hospitals around the country, and if for some reason that isn't enough, they can donate cash too. It gets shipped straight to the hospital with no extra effort on their part. And there's no chance that their donation would be rejected for some reason of hospital regulations. All in all, I can't think of a better way to do it, especially when you consider the community that this drive is aimed toward.

  34. They answered this in their FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    They answer the question of why they need new stuff in their FAQ:

    Q. Can I send you my old Super Nintendo?
    A. We cannot accept used games or toys. These kids are real sick and we can't risk exposing them to germs that might be on your old toys. New stuff in the box is all we can take.

    Also it just seems to make more sense to make a wish list. Why get 100 Good Night Moons when you only really need 20 to cover the demand and having 80 other books would make everyone a lot happier? Do you not let other people know what you may like for birthday and Christmas presents? I guess everyone should just give cash or gift certificates for everything. Where's the fun in that?

  35. The FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But you don't avoid germs in retail handling and packaging and transport and storage. Most of these toys are not made in clean rooms (as a Super Nintendo was - ironically), they are made in factories in third-world countries... probably not up to hospital standards.

    But that's moot, because you know what? People aren't (always) stupid, cruel or mean. Especially when it comes to charity. A person dimwitted or callous enough to donate a moldy or organically corrupted toy probably would not be donating stuff in the first place, realistically.

    I don't buy the "germs" explanation. The best way to minimize germ exposure would be for the charity to buy direct-from-warehouse, eliminating several points of exposure.

    Really, if they're going to be so specific, I don't understand why they don't just petition for cash, and then buy this stuff themselves. Surely they could get bulk deals or charity interest discounts.

    Perhaps this is hostage marketing, where retail interests must first be satisfied before charity ones are. I hate to engage in conspiracy theorism but it would also explain the reluctance to trade in used goods.

  36. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by magefile · · Score: 1

    I have had similar experiences with major surgery at 3, 5, and 8 years of age, as well as minor surgery at 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 13. Thank $DEITY for Gameboy/$CONSOLE_OF_CHOICE and thank $DEITY for 24/7 cartoons on Cartoon Network (that was before Adult Swim, which was good 'cuz I was too young to appreciate it - but I wish CN had been around for my earlier surgeries).

  37. Child's play by Magickcat · · Score: 0

    So where's Chucky?

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  38. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Best default +2 post ever....

  39. I know this is a response to an OT dingleberry by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    But it's not an issue of metric spark plugs. It's an issue of nonstandard spark plugs. 99% of spark plugs everywhere, including those installed on just about every Japanese conveyance made since the 1960s, have had SAE wrench flats on them. For instance my 1989 Nissan 240SX has NGK plugs made in Japan (the car was made in Japan too) but the plugs have the same thread and flats that the plugs for my 1960 Dodge Dart had - in fact they've got the same size threaded area, they both use an aluminum washer to seat, and they both have the same length center electrode and ceramic insulator.

    If you have nonstandard plugs you have only yourself to blame for buying a strange vehicle. Even my lawn mower and weed whacker use standard type spark plugs.

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  40. MOD PARENT DOWN - PLAGIARISM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    From here

    It was Cruel Site of the Day back in April.

  41. Initiation Into Idol Worship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What an insult to the tremendous intellect of a child to give them a "toy". Why not let children play with plants, animals, insects, stones, and other objects created by a designer worthy of respect?

    Children need a good, clean environment to grow up in, the last thing they need is another piece of plastic in their world :(

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!

  42. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tried playing Life a while ago, but I just get these little dots roaming around the screen. I think they're breeding...

    (don't get the joke? http://www.tech.org/~stuart/life/ )

  43. Re:Children's hospitals--too easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's nothing wrong with helping people in other countries, as long as you do it with your own money and energy. This is what seems to be happening here. Great job, guys!

  44. Charity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I donated an xbox, a gamecube, and various books and other things last year. Not in as good a place financially this year, but I'm going to find a way to do something. My nephew died of leukemia shortly after I married, and until you've been around a child dealing with the kind of pain that comes from chemo and the other medications (not to mention the actual condition itself) you'll never understand how important this charity really is. The hospital my daughter spent time in a couple of years ago had a great selection of books and a few board games, and it made all the difference for her. I'm convinced that the types of things that Gabe and Tycho have selected for these wish lists have a tangible and measurable impact on the healing of the children in these hospitals, not just their comfort. I can only hope that the communitites here at Fark (and Slashdot, and the other sites that have posted the link) can follow through and make each year a greater success. Having seen what these kids go through and how getting their minds off the pain and treatments can make a huge difference I promise you that it's well worth it.

    For all of those who have already donated, or who plan to, I thank you, my daughter thanks you, and if he was still alive I'm sure my nephew would thank you as well.

  45. Reality is they would get a lot of crap otherwise by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I don't blame them for not taking used stuff - if you want to donate an old atari 2600 and write off a few hundred bucks, then head over to goodwill.

    If you want to make a kid happy them give them something new, not some used up old thing.

    I am part of a very small local charity that gives toys to foster kids for christmas. We make sure they always get new stuff too. Used stuff is a great way to bring down a kids self esteem and that's the last thing a really sick kid needs.

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  46. Also check out local giving trees!! by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Even if you donate something to Childs Play, in the spirit of this effort also consider finding those "giving trees" that pop up in malls and shopping centers around christmas, and buying some fun things for the kids there.

    The trees have tags on them for want the kid wants - usually a primary thing like "gameboy" and then an alternate thing they expect to get like "socks". I am proud to say that for a few years now, some kids that dared to dream of something bigger got what they really wanted, which is a great feeling. There was even this one kid who just wanted Yu-Gi-Oh cards. My girlfriend and I bought as many packs as I could find and by chance, they had a sale on a nice Yu-Gi-Oh sweatshirt that was pretty cool.

    I have to say even this idea originated from Penny Arcade, it was Gabe I think that had a post a year or two before they started up Childs Play about looking for gamers on the giving tree and suggesting that everyone try to help these kids out.

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  47. Re:er... by v_1matst · · Score: 1

    you've gotta love getting modded redundant when this was the first 'Child's Play' movie comment... *sigh*

  48. Re:Last year they raised 1/4 million USD in cash/t by Ayaress · · Score: 1

    If they don't exceed it, I hope the media report exceeds what it was last year. All the way here in Michigan, the local news covered it, touting that they'd raised, "Nearly $5000 in various donations." The same site that had the article that peeved them into starting the charity lauded their success in raising $10,000. The only article I read that actually said how much they raised called them a Catholic school.

  49. Re:Child's Play Charity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like the moderators are in a cranky mood today. Laugh it up you grim bastards.

  50. Re:er... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you've gotta love getting modded redundant when this was the first 'Child's Play' movie comment... *sigh*
    Agreed. When I get the chance to mod, I almost never mod redundant and when metamoderating, I'll check timestamps and I'll generally only approve redundant as fair if it's restating something posted earlier in the parent discussion or the same person posted the same thing twice in the same topic.