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Frame Dragging by Earth Reconfirmed

smooth wombat writes "After 11 years of watching the movements of two Earth-orbiting satellites, researchers found each is dragged by about 6 feet (2 meters) every year because the very fabric of space is twisted by our whirling world. The results, announced today, are much more precise than preliminary findings published by the same group in the late 1990s. The researchers say their result is 99 percent of the predicted drag, with an error of up to 10 percent. The details are reported in the Oct. 21 issue of the journal Nature."

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  1. networks by OwlofCreamCheese · · Score: 4, Funny

    derr... my brain thought "what? frame dragging? story about networks or something?"

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    1. Re:networks by databyss · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought it had to do with some new rendering techinique in HL2.... then i realized it was just boring old space-time stuff...

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    2. Re:networks by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 3, Funny

      You were on the right track the first time. It's actually a new rendering technique they're using in the matrix.

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  2. Ouch... by tetranitrate · · Score: 4, Funny

    After 11 years of watching the movements of two Earth-orbiting satellites, researchers found each is dragged by about 6 feet (2 meters) every year because the very fabric of space is twisted

    The researchers say their result is 99 percent of the predicted drag, with an error of up to 10 percent


    I think my head just exploded

    1. Re:Ouch... by erikharrison · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's 'a splode'.

      Jeez. Get your obscure internet references correct prior to posting.

    2. Re:Ouch... by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Funny

      You see...it has to do with the warping of space and time. It would seem that it also warps numbers too.

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    3. Re:Ouch... by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hence poll numbers.

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  3. Why, this explains why.... by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ....I can't find the @!#% TV remote. Time to diet, I guess.

  4. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  5. Some Equations by nate+nice · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tysons Equation explains this:

    ch/(c - ke^n)

    Where c is speed of light, of course, h is a coefficient representing the fabric and this is a quotient where k is a coefficient to the constant e (~ 2.7) and raised to n which is a variable for mass or changing objects in space.

    Sanders developed a corollary for this saying:

    f-r/e^d

    where f is the temperature in space in farenheight and r is the change, divided by e, again, to the d, which is similar to n, but loses its delta value.

    It's a lot to grasp if you don't know physics well, but what they say is that objects do indeed get entangled in the fabric of space time and move, due to gravity. Neat stuff...really. Hehehe.

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    1. Re:Some Equations by synaptik · · Score: 5, Funny

      Stupids mods... this should be funny, not informative. "Chicken" ... "Sanders" ... "Fred" ... it's obviously a joke.

      A real 'clucker' of a joke, in fact.

      Not posting anonymous, so that I can receive the karmic flogging I deserve for making this meta-comment.

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    2. Re:Some Equations by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sanders developed a corollary for this saying:

      f-r/e^d


      You were describing a formula developed by Gwynne(65) and further developed by Sanford(73), and Schneider(77).

      Sanders' Equation was:

      hAr/(l^An)

      where h is Planck's constant, A sub r is the acceleration frame relative to the rotating mass, l is the angular momentum, and A sub n is the acceleration frame normal.

      I understand this formula works for 11 dimensions (or "vibratory branes"... often referred to in terms of "hertz and spaces"), but no one besides Sanders seems to understand exactly what they are.

      Just like Relativity which has the Special and General versions, this also has two versions, related to General Relativity and M-theory respectively.

      These are commonly referred to Regular and Extra Stringy.

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  6. Re:CNN beat you to this punch by nuclear305 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "lol.. kind of sad really.

    Read this hours ago on CNN, doesn't seem too interesting yet."


    Where did you think the submitter got the story, you insentive clod!

  7. Perhaps by bleckywelcky · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the CNN article:

    "Ciufolini's team analyzed millions of laser signals bounced off two satellites, called LAGEOS and LAGEOS 2. Both are highly reflective spheres not designed to do any work of their own. They look like 2-foot-diameter (0.6m) golf balls and contain no batteries or electronics."

    Space Balls?

  8. i don't understand this article by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Funny

    My framerate has been dragging too but I don't see the relevance of satellites to this issue. I've got cablemodem so satellite internet latency cannot be the problem.

  9. Re:Time travel by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your local junior high science fiction club would be a good place.

  10. yeah, real sad.... right.... by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    it's really a sad state of affairs when a glorified weblog isn't able to report news faster than a multibillion dollar media corporation with reporters stationed all over the globe.

  11. Re:Don't Get TOO Excited by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Funny

    Existence is not necessarily based on STRAIGHT FACTS. Sometimes distorted truths or twisted lies partially belie the evidence in plain view.

    The accuracy of TRUTH has been determined to suffer a truth variance. Politicians are known to spin yarn and alter the very fabric of space, time, and facts usually accepted without question. However, due to their dragging the truth so far as to rip the facts from the framework, the results are about only 10% accurate.

    There is a margin of error of this report of about 4.8992.2333.285%

    This truth is NOT to be tisdorted, nor dispooted.

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  12. 6 feet = 1.8288 meters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not to be pedantic, didn't we learn that conversions in spacecraft need to be more precise?

    Sincerely,
    The Mars Climate Orbiter (AC to avoid karma whoring and giving away my location)

  13. Understatement of the year by Nitish · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the CNN article: Black holes [are] typically much more massive than Earth.

  14. Re:GR lives on and on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    In reality it is just the Vogons doing an interstellar highway survey. Guess what, we are in the way!

  15. Re:Yo mama by DJCouchyCouch · · Score: 3, Funny

    My favorite one of all time is: Yo Mama's so fat when she jumps up in the air she gets stuck.

  16. The Laws Of Relativity? by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't it time soon...to change from 'theory' it to The Laws Of Relativity?

    I don't think so. Legislation is not the answer to every problem.

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  17. This happened on my PC too. by Maul · · Score: 1, Funny

    I got frame dragging when playing Doom 3, so I updated to a GeForce 6800. The planet just needs to do something similar.

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  18. great, another term to abuse on star trek by fulana_lover · · Score: 3, Funny

    wanna bet the next few episodes of star trek enterprise are gonna talk about how "the frame dragging around us is warping the space time continuum!" it'll probably be the nazis fault too...

  19. Re:Isn't that... by fatphil · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pencils fill the confined atmosphere with graphite dust. You don't want layers of graphite on your circuit boards.

    They US/SU should both have just used either wax crayons, or etchasketch.

    FP.

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  20. Fat people at the fair ground by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This just confirms what I've always known - that very fat people should not be allowed on fair ground rides that spin very quickly.