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Bush and Kerry Supporters Have Separate Realities
corngrower writes "A report by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland correlates voters' perceptions of world attitudes and events with their choice in candidates. It's an interesting read, and shows voters supporting Kerry as being more in tune with the events and world attitudes surrounding the war in Iraq."
Though they didn't find WMD, there is proof that Saddam had WMD in 1993 and the summer of 2000 with the intent to use them on Americans, and he surely has been trying to do such.
And Bush's IQ is higher than Kerry's. It's hard for you to make the argument that Bush supporters are dimwitted.
I do admit there are many who don't understand the world's view of America. I don't see, however, how you can group all Bush supporters into a "stupid" group because of the attitudes of some.
If the fake neoliberals actually had the tollerance they claim to have, they'd admit that it's a possibility that Bush supporters are actually LIVING IN A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE where Iraq had WMDs and shipped them all out to Syria before the war started.
After all, we each live in our own little world where we are always correct, right?
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Yep. Bush is faith based. As are most Americans.
See, we have this strange faith in democracy. If we spread democracy to the Middle East, it will break up the madras and the religion of "peace" that is preached in the name of Islam. You know, the version wher 10 year old boys are taught that Allah wants them to strap explosives to their chests and blow themselves up in pizza parlors filled with young Jews?
We also believe that idealism - the idea that we should strive for perfection, rather than consign ourselves to imperfection - drives more people to achieve more than otherwise. Set expectations higher than they can possibly achieve, and they will achieve it. What do you think the Olympics and all sports are about?
We also believe in determiniation. That's why we know that even though bombs are going off in Baghdad, that as long as we keep our eye on the goal of democracy and peace, eventually we will get there. Eventually, we will bring peace to the Middle East because we are more determined than the terrorists.
We also believe in human ingenuity. That's why when we see global warming or oil shortages or any kind of incredible problem on the horizon, we don't worry about it too much. Someone somewhere is going to come up with a solution that will lead mankind through the next century. That is, as long as people are free to do as they wish and don't have to report to some bureacrat in DC.
We also believe in freedom. We believe that people are happiest when they are free. We fight for our freedom, antagonizing anyone who challenges. There is nothing more sacred to a republican than freedom. We are willing to kill to protect it, unlike other people. We will also fight to lower taxes, reduce regulations, and to help people start their small businesses or own their own piece of land. We fight for the right to freely speak, to bear arms, to worship God however they like.
We have a lot of things we have faith in. What do you believe in?
The radical sect of Islam would either see you dead or "reverted" to Islam.
Okay people, quiz time. How many of you can guess the world view of corngrower, the submitter of this article? To give you a hint, here's his a paraphrase of his submission.
"A study on the perceptual fantasy worlds that voters live in demonstrates that Kerry voters' fantasy worlds are more real than the Bush voters' fantasy worlds!"
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
Yes, but North Korea has endorsed Kerry. Who would you rather vote for, a person who has endorsements from a bunch of evil democracies in Europe who are obviously in the vast right wing conspiracy, or a candidate who has the support of the Communist Paradise of the DPRK, and the Dear Leader, Kim Jon Il.
/sarcasm
Down with the eeeviil capitalists! Kerry '04!
Objects in the blog are closer then they ap
> shows voters supporting Kerry as being more in tune with the events and world attitudes surrounding the war in Iraq
Sure Kerry supporters can be in tune with the rest of world opinion. They probably are.
But, I really don't think world opinion has come to the point where the world realizes that if Islamic fascism isn't defeated then everyone will be living under a "Talibanesque" (spelling?) regime real quick.
Already, the people of Spain have allowed Islamic fascists to decide a major election in their country.
When will the world realize the pretext these fascists live by?
When will the world realize that the only solution that will be tolerated by Islamic facists is the death of every person of Jewish, Christian, Hindu, atheist, and/or any other religious bent other than islam?
This ultimately means that the world cannot see where these evil doers want to take the world's societies.
The Islamic terrorists do not hesitate to murder anyone in their way. And if they die achieving their goals then they are perfectly happy with that also.
I say that if they want to die for Islam then let them. But let them die at the end of my gun on my terms.
Rather than me being beheaded because I refuse to allow my wife to be forced to wear a head covering, or if I refuse to pray to their skewed excuse for a god, or because I refuse whatever other religious atrocity they desire to impose upon me.
It's wrong to couch supporters of Kerry in terms of what the remainder of the world thinks.
Kerry, Bush, Nader, Badnarik, name your candidate, etc., everyone must realize that if you aren't an Islamic facist then the facists have a fate you don't want waiting for you. By sticking your head in a hole and refusing to see the obvious you are failing your species badly.
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So I can continue to be a rich, ignorant, happy winner. And the rest of you can be poor, intelligent, miserable losers.
Fuck you, I like this side.
Putting aside minor considerations like the insanity of anihilating ten time the number of people killed in the twins, SQUARED;
That's not insanity- that's just an expansion of the ratio General Titus used when dealing with Zionist Terror in 70 A.D. Say what you like about the genocide and diaspora of the Jews, it did prevent Zionist Terrorism from bothering the planet again until 1968.
the fact that almost all of them are innocent;
The theory behind the diaspora was that when you're dealing with religious based terrorism, nobody with national identity under that religion is entirely innocent. EVER. They're just potential replacement troops for the terrorists you're going to kill anyway.
ruining the world economy (all this oil gone);
Anybody who thinks we're going to get out of this with anything resembling the pre-9-11 economy is fooling themselves and everybody around them.
possibly causing nuclear winter; fallout carried into Russia, Europe and India; and various other such pesky issues.
They're as guilty as the rest of us for the fate of the middle east- so why the hell not?
And if that's not enough - *Israel*? Why would you want to nuke Israel after the twins?
If it wasn't for Zionist Expansionism, we would not have troops in the Middle East. If not for troops in the middle east, the twins falling would never have happened. Israel's insistance on existing at this point in time is one of two main reasons for the towers falling. The other is oil, and our need to prop up basically an evil and corrupt government that has been teaching their kids to hate us for a hundred years now.
It would have made more sense if you listed France. They also have tons of Muslems in the country. Come on, just between the two of us - you are itching for an excuse to nuke France. Admit it.
Isn't everybody? But the real answer here is- the fallout will take care of France. No need to nuke them directly- and the main message that JIHAD AND THE PRACTICE OF ISLAM WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED will have been sent quite adequately with the loss of every Holy City in the Koran and associated commentaries.
In short: You, sir, are a terrorist.
Of course- we become what we fight against or we lose. If there is any truism at all in human warfare once we leave the just war theory behind, it is that.
Yours is exactly the same mindset used by the terrorists who killed hundreds of school children because "their people have been wronged" and they wanted to "fight back" their "just war".
Completely correct. The only difference is, I'd win. You need to have the EXACT SAME mindset of your enemy, down to the last obsession, to win. Otherwise, as Ford tried to tell Slartibartfast about the Kricket Robots, they'll win- because they care and we simply don't.
Then again, I suppose any American deluded enough to call himself a "marxist hacker" isn't expected to be rational...
OTOH, what's your irrational reason for attempting to use limited warfare against an unjust enemy? Are you TRYING to create an entire generation of orphans for al Qaida to recruit?
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
People like you should be rounded up and shot.
Everyone (except for you) would be much happier.
You,
Can call my willingness to defend myself whatever you want.
But, you better be sure that I and whole bunch of people in the US just like me are not going to tolerate threats from any two bit twit who thinks he can get away with whatever he wants....
Per my nickname, at least I'm willing to stand up and not hide behind anonymous coward status!
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The media says NOTHING about the good news that's happening in Iraq.
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They completely IGNORE that the elections in Afghanistan went well, and that women actually got to vote over there.
You know, for a party of people with so much "compassion" for other human beings, I think it's disgusting that their blind hatred of anyone that doesn't goose-step in line with their thinking needs to be taken out.
Freeing people from dictators is just one example.
Blocking Nader from a ballot is another.
Spreading lies about a new military draft coming, which by the way was being pushed by Charles Rangel, A DEMOCRAT (http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/rangel
is yet another.
Lie after lie after lie.
And don't give me any crap about Bush lies about this or that (because that's all it is, crap!)
Clean up your own playpen before you start bitching about the other side.... and guess what, because you can't. Whatever delusional ideas you have about Bush, Kerry and the Democraps are ten times worse.
What's really frightening is that our collective national intelligence may have sunk to the level that we actually deserve a leader like George Bush. Look at Utah, they keep putting Orin Hatch back in office. What does that say about them?
The lengths the right will go to win, the unflinching conviction of their own rightness in any position they're trying to justify should scare the hell out of anyone with a brain.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
The questions are not clear, the 'right' answers are ambiguous, some 'right answers' are actually wrong, and conclusions drawn are subjective nonsense. In other words this study is nothing short of complete crapola. People posting keep sighting facts, but this study contains almost no factual information of any kind.
There is one thing that we can learn from this study though: The fact that Kerry supporters jump all over this crap and take the study at face value without thinking or questioning is evidence that Kerry supporters are a bunch of empty heads waiting to be duped by propoganda.
My affinity for hyperbole knows no bounds
Bush has ... but Kerry ... but Bush ... CRAP ... is becoming more and more of an intelectual downward spiral, ooops, economy anyone
Life has become the ideology of its absence - T.W. Adorno
So, by the definition you cite, the U.S. is presently using WMDs in Iraq against Iraqi civilians who happen to be near insurgent targets. So much for the moral high ground.