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Gizmodo Declares Blu-Ray Winner

13.7BillionYears writes "Gizmodo has a special feature covering the many details of the Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD battle based on the technical, financial, and commercial merits of the two contenders. They conclude that Blu-Ray is the clear winner on all three fronts. Hopefully the movie industry and electronics manufacturers will see the same logic and avert a format war."

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  1. Dial back the bias a little bit by erick99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gizmodo probably has it right, with respect to Blu-Ray, but their article is so incredibly biased that it is difficult to lend it any credibility. It's not an objective article at all. They follow a high-school writing class "compare and contrast" format. However, for each feature that they discuss, they trash it for HD-DVD and then argue valiantly and gushingly for Blu-Ray. I would rather read an article written by a dispassionate science writer. They should stick to regurgitating press releases rather than trying to take on serious analysis. I like Gizmodo as a great place to make one stop to learn about new gadgets but I don't go there for any sort of analysis or good editorial content.

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    1. Re:Dial back the bias a little bit by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed. It would have been nice if they said *something* about HD-DVD's strengths and relative design. For example, which format is more resistant to consumer damage? Or at the very least, how about an HD-DVD link next to that bright, blue Blu-Ray link?

      I'm happy to know that Blu-Ray is a great format (and it really does appear to be a good format), but let's be somewhat objective here.

    2. Re:Dial back the bias a little bit by (SM)+Spacemonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, wonderful spin. Lets go through the article shall we.

      Blu Ray Wins (cause we already said so)

      Technical
      Blu Ray has larger capacity
      Blu Ray doesn't have backwards compatability, but thats a feature not a weakness!
      Blu Ray may have a lower production cost, we don't know for sure, but thats still a plus for Blu Ray
      Neither Blu Ray or the other one (we try not to mention the losers name) are going to use catridges. Point for Blu Ray

      Financial
      Blu Ray group has 70 members, the HD DVD forum has 220 members, but we saw this poster somewhere that only had 47 companies in support of HD DVD. So Blu Ray wins!
      The economic size of the Blu Ray members is bigger. Except for Microsoft. But you know. Microsoft may change its mind and support Blu Ray. Blu Ray wins this one as well! Wow go Blu Ray!

      Commerical
      Blu Ray has 30% of the commerical resellers market! HD DVD has 0%! It is quite obvious that the 70% currently undecided will chose Blu Ray, because we said it won already!

      Seriously, this article is not worth slashdot. It isn't worth anything.

  2. GOOD by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like having my optical media encased in some sort of protective barrier. it saves me from myself.

    As an American Slob(tm), I have a really slack attitude towards my optical media. Mostly due to how I can get away with it with everything else.

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  3. The masses will ultimately decicde who wins by very · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The masses will ultimately decicde who wins But then again, the masses could easily be persuaded and influenced. Most of the time, there will be a winner by default, not necessarily by it's own merrit or quality, etc. I can only hope that the better system wins. Be it Blu-Ray or HD-DVD Then again, I'm leaning against any camps that blindly adopts technology, such as Microsft's. notice the word "blindly" didn't see it? well blindness might be a factor.

  4. My worry is... by MonsieurPiedlourde · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems that the more data that you throw onto a 5" disc the less resilience to scratches there are. I understand that a lot of these discs will use redundancy to counteract the increased sensitivity to scratches. I would assume that would cut into the amount of data that can be stored on the disc. Am I wrong in assuming that being that the discs are 72x the capacity of a CD ROM that the information density is 72X more. If the discs have 72x the amount of information in a given area, wouldn't the disc be 72x more susceptible to scratches. I've noticed this when comparing CD to DVD's.

    So why dump the cartridges?

  5. Gizmodo, from the makers of Fleshbot and Wonkette. by markv242 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, isn't there a bit of a credibility gap? I love Gizmodo and all, but are they really the end-all-be-all of format reviewers? Let's see Tom's or Anandtech's opinions.

  6. Here's the Trick by ObligatoryUserName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, I know this sounds naive, but get this: If we all decide right now that Blu-Ray is the winner, and we cling to that idea in spite of any future arguments then it will be the winner. The masses have spoken. We don't have to go through another period of format instability. It's a wonder of the Internet, a snap decision by millions.

    The only people who won't like this are the people who are supporting the other standard, you know DVD-whats_its_name, you know- the losers.

    1. Re:Here's the Trick by eggoeater · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, that sounds kind of ...naive.

      Instead of just blindly going with one format over another, how about we see how these maturing technology standards develop and then make an INFORMED DECISION based on how they actually work. Agreed, consumers don't want to go through VHS/Beta again and neither do the manufacturers. There's more to it than jumping on the nearest bandwagon.

      I lost my sig.

  7. Re:Reading comprehension by smclean · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What does resistance to consumer damage have to do with anything?

    A lot! From a marketing standpoint (as if there were any other when dealing with manufacturers) the last thing they want is to have their brand name associated with discs which are rendered useless as soon as you get a fingerprint on them. (Not saying that Blu-ray is this sensitive, just making a point).

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  8. Re:Dual Compatability? by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "How feasable would it be to have devices support both formats, the same way most DVD-writers now are +/- R. Are blu-ray and hd dvd too different or could we end up seeing the same kind of thing where both formats are supported by most devices."

    This multiple format business is a mess. Look at the problems with SACD and DVD-A. Nobody is buying them (and if the music industry stopped suing people and promoted those formats that are so much better than downloaded music they would actually make more money because there is new value there.)

    But back to the topic at hand: The industry would benefit more from having ONE SINGLE TRUE UNIFIED STANDARD as opposed to a couple of standards, which would confuse people. The public at large (Joe Sixpack) gets all confused with this 2-format thing. They want to buy a movie and play it, not worry about if this disc will play on their type of player. When we have one unified standard, confusion is reduced, people cam just buy buy buy and made the industry happy. The the industry focus can be put on actually releasing content and worthwhile stuff, as opposed to teaching consumers that they need a different player for their Fox releases versus some other studio and then wondering why people don't buy any of these confusing and conflicting products.

    Dear next-gen disc industry: ONE STANDARD PLEASE!

  9. Actually that could be OK. by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obviosuly either side is going to make discs that won't die when you sneeze.

    But in fact a funny point sis that durability could be a major strike AGAINST HD-DVD. Did you read the part about Blu-Ray discs printed on paper? That could mean a lot more opportunity for throw-away discs in magazines or cerial boxes or wheverer. That is a huge draw to media types, to be able to push media through more channels.

    So again, I would say the duribility of the format has nothing to do with sucess. Ease of use, yes - to some extent (which is why they aren't giving any cart-based players to the masses). The primary factor will be the one with a majority of media companies getting behind it and making things people want to buy. If there were a split between some media supporting one format, and some another, then there might be more of a fight - but it looks to be an absolute domination the part of Blu-Ray, as they said from any standpoint you care to look that would indicate future sales potential.

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  10. Porn industry will decide the winner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think whichever standard the porn industry decides to use will be the winner.

    50GB of Jenna Jameson...WOW!!

  11. Re:W00T! by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "I get to ditch all my DVDs and the machines that can read them! W00T!"

    Fortunately the wonderful thing about DVDs being a fully digital and cracked medium is that it will be very easy to copy them over to BluDisc-R whenever that becomes a commodity product.

  12. Re:Reading comprehension by TeamSPAM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Agreed. Media damage is about the only thing I don't like about current DVDs. I have about 200 Music CDs (and my wife has about as many) and can't really recall any problems with playback. Where as I have an episode of Sex and the City on DVD that I didn't even get to watch because of the smallest scracth that I can barely see. I've also checked out DVDs from the library that were unwatchable. My personal experience leads me to believe that we need media that can handle media damage better.

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  13. Re:Go beta! by WuphonsReach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wouldn't mind whatever format comes out to be enclosed, though. I have always thought it strange that Mini-Disks didn't beat out CD's. You can't scratch them! Although I guess while the media is safer, the electronics accessing the media will be a bit more prone to dust and other particulates entering the cartridge bay. Not many people would check to see if the casing was clean before putting it in like they do the bottom of a CD/DVD.

    MD was pretty much DOA due to Sony licensing and pricing for licensing. Not to mention that Sony is it's own worst enemy and kept the MD as "audio only" (there was no way to get digital content on/off the drive).

    Just like we saw with the "floppy killer" drives that were all 40-250MB in size. Nobody was willing to step up and publish an open standard, so none of the half a dozen formats every took off.

    So here we are, 10 years later, and we're still using floppy discs as the easiest way to move a 50k document from machine A to machine B. (USB keys are getting close... but still an order of magnitude too expensive, and unplugging a drive can be problematic.)

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