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Jef Raskin On The Mac

der Kopf writes "Jeff Raskin, one of the creators of the Macintosh and inventor of the click-and-drag interface, states in an interview for the British newspaper The Guardian that "the Mac is now a mess. A third party manual (Pogue's The Missing Manual) is nearly 1,000 pages, and far from complete. Apple now does development by accretion, and there is only a little difference between using a Mac and a Windows machine."" While I think Raskin has some good points, I think there's a far cry between the Mac & XP.

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  1. Not jaded at all by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in this corner, we have Macus Nastolgious; a species of computer user who misses the way Macintoshes were before The Great Migration to a modern and flexible operating system. Be very cautious around this beast as it will use any information, no matter how irrelevant to the topic, to prove its supposed "point" about Mac OS being "superior" to Mac OS X. It is also very good at selective hearing, often ignoring words and phrases such as "modern", "virtual memory", "true multitasking", "protected memory", and "brushed metal".

    If you are attacked by one of these creatures, your best course of action is to appease it with a lollipop and a Cherry iMac running Mac OS 9. Ignore the sobbing that may result, as it is only an opening for renewed attack.

    In case anyone's interested, Wikipedia knows who Jef Raskin is.

    1. Re:Not jaded at all by johnnyb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Trust me, authors use every opportunity possible to hock their books. Just look at my sig!

  2. Re:Anti-MS jabs by jmays · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you new here?

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  3. Ripping off goes both ways by 59Bassman · · Score: 4, Funny
    Remember, Windows has had the command line from the beginning. Apple only ripped it off recently!

    /end feeble attempt at humor on a Monday morning

  4. The difference by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

    While I think Raskin has some good points, I think there's a far cry between the Mac & XP.

    Agreed, OS X has a usable shell.

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  5. Seems like people want a mess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    With the success of OSX and XP, it really seems like people want a mess. So KDE and Gnome are doing the right thing ;-)

  6. Lack of Content by R.Caley · · Score: 3, Funny
    I wonder if he didn't actually say anything, or if the journalist/editor just cut out all the content.

    The result is pretty much nothing but `Jef Raskin is a grumpy old man'.

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  7. Re:What i like about XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who gives a fuck about your feelings about XP???

  8. Re:...but Windows copied Mac, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


    Is he accounting for the fact that a fair amount of the similarity is due to Microsoft incorporating elements of the innovative Mac interface(s) into Windows?


    Naaah. He's talking about the features they both stole* from Xerox.

    *OK, so no one stole anything from Xerox. You would have to be a total idiot to steal from Xerox. All you have to do is be at the right place at the right time and Xerox will give you stuff. No theft there.

  9. Re:The difference is by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 3, Funny

    I plugged in two mice once. It worked fine. Both mice would fight over the pointer. :-)

  10. How much more 'good old days' can he spread? by overmeer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jeff Raskin, Inventor of the click-and-brag interface.

  11. Well DUH! by kuzb · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think there's a far cry between the Mac & XP.

    especially since one is an operating system and one isn't.

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