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Would John Kerry Defang the DMCA?

dave981 writes "Over at ZDNet, Declan McCullagh asks, 'Would John Kerry defang the DMCA?' Kerry's response: 'open to examining' whether to change current law 'to ensure that a person who lawfully obtains or receives a transmission of a digital work may back up a copy of it for archival purposes.' It's not clear, though, how serious Kerry truly is."

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  1. The Prez is in the executive branch... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who forgot their high school civics our live outside the USA...

    The president cannot directly write make a law at all. Only members of the House and Senate can nominate bills for consideration. (When the "President's Budget" comes every year, some member of the House must support the bill enough to put it into "the hopper" or it doesn't get off the ground.) The president's only role in the legislative process is to approve bills that have passed both houses of Congress, and that can even be bypassed

    Therefore, even if Kerry wins the presidential race, he still will have no direct impact on laws. He'll only be able to sign a DMCA repeal or softening amendment if Congress sends him one to consider.

    As always happens in the even-numbered years, all of the House and 1/3 of the Senate seats are up for re-election. Right now, it's a "Republican steamroller" because Republicans control both houses and and the White house. However, the Republicans hold on to a very thin margin to make their majority in both cases, so this could completely flip or end up in a mixed state after the elections. The Congress has much more say over the laws than the President gets.

    1. Re:The Prez is in the executive branch... by tsg · · Score: 5, Informative
      The president cannot directly write make a law at all. Only members of the House and Senate can nominate bills for consideration. (When the "President's Budget" comes every year, some member of the House must support the bill enough to put it into "the hopper" or it doesn't get off the ground.) The president's only role in the legislative process is to approve bills that have passed both houses of Congress, and that can even be bypassed


      [The President] shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; [source]


      The President cannot directly write any law. But he can direct Congress in any way he sees fit. No, they don't have to listen to them, but he can be very influential. His power in this area comes from making recommendations on what Congress should be spending its time on. You can be sure that if the President wants to fix the DMCA, it will get a lot of attention from Congress.

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    2. Re:The Prez is in the executive branch... by HappyDrgn · · Score: 4, Informative

      has [John Kerry] started or supported any bills that are important to you?

      Thank you. This is an important topic for me. As a Senator, your job is to pass bills and vote on bills that are important to the people. Take a look at the record, does he support your ideas? Let's take a look at the bills John Kerry has created and passed shall we...

      S.791 1999: Authorizes $53 million over four years to provide grants to woman-owned small businesses.
      S.1206 1994: Names a federal building in Waltham, Massachusetts after Frederick C. Murphy, who was killed in action during World War II and awarded (posthumously) the Medal of Honor.
      S.1636 1994: A save-the-dolphins measure aiming "to improve the program to reduce the incidental taking of marine mammals during the course of commercial fishing operations."
      S.1563 1991: Funding the National Sea Grant College Program, which supports university-based research, public education, and other projects "to promote better understanding, conservation and use of America's coastal resources."
      S.423 1987: Granting a visa and admission to the U.S. as a permanent resident to Kil Joon Yu Callahan.
      S.300 2003: Awarded a congressional gold medal to Jackie Robinson (posthumously), and called for a national day of recognition.
      S.856 2001: Increased the maximum research grants for small businesses from $500,000 to $750,000 under the Small Business Technology Transfer Program.
      S.J.Res.158 1989: To make the week of Oct. 22 - Oct. 28, 1989 "World Population Awareness Week."
      S.J.Res.160 1991: To renew "World Population Awareness Week" for 1991.
      S.J.Res.318 1992: To make Nov. 13, 1992 "Vietnam Veterans Memorial 10th Anniversary Day."
      S.J.Res.337 1992: To make Sept. 18, 1992 "National POW/MIA Recognition Day."

      In 20 years of senate, what has John Kerry done to help improve America?

  2. Would it really matter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Would it really matter. It is already a law, and as president he has no control over it. However he would have power to veto it if changes came down the pipe to alter or kill it off.

    Why do we as americans put so much into the presidential elections, when infact our congress critters have the power to draft and approve new laws, while the president is in the position to say yes or no to them?

  3. I'll tell you the difference... by garcia · · Score: 5, Informative

    Neither politician has the moxie to say in public that he agrees with gay marriage...

    That's because neither of the candidates support it. Bush doesn't support it and wants a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Kerry doesn't support it but is against any such legislation.

    Strangely enough, both candidates are nearly mirroring their stances on the issue of IP theft:

    Said Bush: "I strongly support efforts to protect intellectual property and will continue to work with Congress to ensure all intellectual property is properly protected...We must vigorously enforce intellectual-property protections and prosecute the violators, not the technology." He noted that his administration launched an initiative to enforce such laws and has worked closely with China to support penalties associated with violating American intellectual-property rights.

    Kerry, meanwhile, has a slightly different stance. "I do not condone the illegal sharing of copyrighted material," Kerry said, though he is "open to examining whether legislative action is necessary to ensure that a person who lawfully receives a transmission of a digital work may back up a copy of it for archival purposes."


    Poor Jim Lehrer of PBS, who moderated the first presidential debate, was left scratching his head about what actually differentiated the two men who would be president.

    I just pointed out a major difference... Bush is against X and legislates against X (including denying rights to Americans because he wants to bring religious morality back into the country). Kerry is against X as well but doesn't have any plans to do anything about it.

  4. Re:DCMA by osu-neko · · Score: 5, Informative
    Seeing as he voted for the Patriot Act, not likely.

    Weren't paying attention to the news at the time? Like most of the people who voted for it, he said it was flawed, but it was more important to get something in place first, then they could backfix. According to publicly stated positions of the people at the time, the majority of people who voted for the Patriot Act would like to revise it.

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  5. This is very important to recognize by celerityfm · · Score: 3, Informative

    In other words, the President may not be able to *make* the changes himself, but he is able to SET THE DEBATE and this is a power in and of itself.

    That and the whole commander in chief thing, appointing judges and other government officials, running foreign relations, etc makes it such that the President has the capability of really shaping and molding the federal government from top to bottom. Of course there is this whole bureaucratic thing that they have to get around.

    Wikipedia does a good job covering these and other subtleties of the President's power. A must read for every American voter and/or the curious or concerned foreign citizen :)

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  6. Re:For that matter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    He voted for it, of course.

  7. Re:Geek Vote? by Bombcar · · Score: 5, Informative
    No, Bush actually said:

    I strongly support efforts to protect intellectual property and will continue to work with Congress to ensure all intellectual property is properly protected. Technology is a critical conduit of information and sometimes can be misused for illegal copyright infringement. Blaming the technology does not address the issue. We must vigorously enforce intellectual property protections and prosecute the violations, not the technology. My Administration has launched the Strategy Targeting Organized Piracy (STOP) initiative to do just that. I have also worked to obtain China's support for stricter enforcement and more severe penalties for piracy and counterfeiting of American ideas and innovations.
  8. Re:Geek Vote? by daveo0331 · · Score: 3, Informative

    They said bush would take the side of the church

    If only this were true for Bush's favorite issue to talk about...

    Vatican questions "preventive" wars

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  9. Re:For that matter... by fafalone · · Score: 3, Informative

    He voted for it, but the vote was 99-0-1. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d105:S.203 7:

  10. Re:Vote records are less reliable than they seem by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Informative

    For instance, Kerry and Edwards have missed something like 80% of the votes on the Senate floor this year.

    That stat has been caused by the Republicans who control the Senate. They saw to it that most floor votes would happen while the Democratic presidential-wannabe senators would be out of town, and would suspend floor activity any time they were in town. In short, they made it intentionally hard to campaign and get in on the recorded votes, not knowing which Dem Senator would win, but making sure to muck all of their records.

  11. His Feburary '04 website says exactly what he'd do by Natdog · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's no longer on the current official website for John Kerry, but one of the issues he had a stance for was about copyright, in which he stated that he would vigorously defend America's copyright system against piracy. Taken directly from his website back in Feburary --

    * Copyright-Based Industries Are Critical to Economic Growth: Products of the mind from America's scientists, engineers, computer programmers have little value without intellectual property protections. Copyright based industries alone now account for nearly 6% of all jobs in America and 7.75 % of GDP. These industries are in jeopardy because of the Bush Administration's failure to enforce international treaties to protect America's creative community from piracy.

    * Stop Intellectual Piracy: The Office of the U.S. Trade Representative estimates that losses theft of U.S. intellectual property in 51 foreign countries total $9.7 billion. In China alone we lose $1.8 billion to piracy. Yet even where we have strong agreements, piracy remains a major problem due to a failure to fully implement the TRIPS agreement and an unwillingness or inability to crack down on the problem. A Kerry Administration will take theft of the jobs of America's creative workforce a trade and foreign policy priority.


    If you'd like to see the website yourself, it's right here:

    John Kerry for President (Feburary '04)

    Sure it doesn't say anything about copyright/piracy in the US, but you can guage his opinion on copyright from those statements. I don't think his stance on copyright has changed, and he would most likely support the DMCA, if not strengthen it further.

  12. Re:For that matter... by Brandybuck · · Score: 3, Informative

    You're the one who's being deceptive. The truth and fact of the matter is that Kerry voted for the DMCA. No way around it, he voted for it. Period. End of story.

    If you're trying to say it's not his fault because everyone else did too, then that's not a very good endorsement. You're arguing that he's pathologically susceptible to peer pressure.

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  13. Why are you mystified? by sheldon · · Score: 3, Informative
    You said:
    I will admit that I am as mystified as the next guy as to why he didn't just let the inspectors back in at that point, so he'd have the rest of the world on his side when it did.


    This has never made any sense to me, it's like people want to be mystified and are unwilling to accept the truth at simple face value.

    Saddam ruled Iraq with an iron fist. The only way he kept power was through the threat of retalitation. That he had used these chemical weapons back in the Iran-Iraq war timeframe is evidence of that.

    So if people thought that he didn't have these weapons any more... Saddam wouldn't be in a particularly safe position.

    And that included not just Iraqi dissidents, but also the threat of invasion by Iran.

    So Saddam tried to play a little game, where he walked to knife edge pretending to comply, but at the same time keeping just a hint of skepticism going, to keep his enemies uncertain about attacking him.

    This is not my theory, it comes from David Kay and the others involved in the weapons inspection.

    But I think everybody, including Bush, admits this mistake now.


    I've not heard Bush admit to any mistake. What he usually does is find someone, usually in the military, which he can blame the failure upon.

    I don't think Kerry has "flip-flopped" in the sense of saying that knowing what we knew then, going to war was a fundamentally bad idea, though perhaps he might not make the same vote knowing what he knows now (I'm not sure if he ever answered that hypothetical question explicitly).


    Kerry has said he'd make the same vote. Which is consistent, as you note, for he was voting to authorize threat of force to get the UN inspectors back in.

    Where he differs from Bush, is he wouldn't have invaded if the inspections were working, as appeared to be the case back in March of 2003.